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Katmancross 01-07-2011 05:39 PM
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Why are the Palio cutters sort of a cult cutter? Are they that much better than a Xikar?
Because they ain't cheap.

Katmancross 01-07-2011 05:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Krish the Fish (Post 1120478)
:r

I've never used a cutter with a backstop, but I imagine if it's got the Xikar name on it, it can't be so bad.
For some reason, I've had not much luck with the Xikar Xi2.
The more expensive ones are much better

Katmancross 01-07-2011 05:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tobii3 (Post 1116058)
damnedest thing.

EVERY double guillotine cutter has a "noob" backstop.

Or did everyone forget laying the cutter flat on the table? Did you forget WHY every double guillotine cutter is so thin?
Yes, but finding a table or counter in the car is troublesome

Katmancross 01-07-2011 05:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1116065)
:r :tu

The cutter looks kinda cheap and the backstop is lame. I don't know if you could call me a noob for it but I've never seen a cutter with a backstop :confused:

Time will tell. Everyone claims that their cutters are self sharpening. But it takes several months before that claim is found to be true or not

T.G 01-07-2011 06:49 PM
Re: Xikar Cutter-Not Released to Public Yet
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katmancross (Post 1123708)
Why are the Palio cutters sort of a cult cutter? Are they that much better than a Xikar?
Because they ain't cheap.
"Better" is relative to one's preferences. They are both quality cutters, but they are different.

The Xikar is basically a set of encapsulated cigar scissors. It's apparent by your earlier comment that you have used them, so I don't need to go on about them.

The Palio is a bit more innovative in the design. It's a dual guillotine, but it only has two parts (two blades that move against each other), as opposed to the typical three (two blades which move inside a body). It's slim, it's lightweight, it makes very precise, clean, sharp cut, it includes a built in cigar rest, the owner of the company, Mark ("OpusEx") is a very personable, stand up guy who interfaces often with the other S/BOTLs on the boards and elsewhere.

Katmancross 01-07-2011 07:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1123803)
"Better" is relative to one's preferences. They are both quality cutters, but they are different.

The Xikar is basically a set of encapsulated cigar scissors. It's apparent by your earlier comment that you have used them, so I don't need to go on about them.

The Palio is a bit more innovative in the design. It's a dual guillotine, but it only has two parts (two blades that move against each other), as opposed to the typical three (two blades which move inside a body). It's slim, it's lightweight, it makes very precise, clean, sharp cut, it includes a built in cigar rest, the owner of the company, Mark ("OpusEx") is a very personable, stand up guy who interfaces often with the other S/BOTLs on the boards and elsewhere.

Thank you, Adam.

But you don't say if you own a Palio? Obviously, you've used one. Do you think they are worth the dough?
In any case, described succinctly and easy enough for my tiny little brain to absorb.
You are a genius!
Do you do windows?

The Kat

pnoon 01-07-2011 07:13 PM
Re: Xikar Cutter-Not Released to Public Yet
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katmancross (Post 1123828)
Thank you, Adam.

But you don't say if you own a Palio? Obviously, you've used one. Do you think they are worth the dough?
In any case, described succinctly and easy enough for my tiny little brain to absorb.
You are a genius!
Do you do windows?

The Kat
I can't speak for Adam.

I think the basic black ones are most definitely worth the dough. The value of the special finishes really depends on how much it's worth to you. That is just cosmetic. I own multiple Palios and I can't say enough good things about them. Xikar makes a great cutter but I don't care for the ergonomics. Palio is a top quality cutter backed by an outstanding warranty and the owners are great guys (and personal friends). Those here that have met Marc, Jack and Mike would agree.

weak_link 01-07-2011 07:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Katmancross (Post 1123828)
Thank you, Adam.

But you don't say if you own a Palio? Obviously, you've used one. Do you think they are worth the dough?
In any case, described succinctly and easy enough for my tiny little brain to absorb.
You are a genius!
Do you do windows?

The Kat
I love my Palio, more so than the Xicar, but the one T.G. gave me is a good distraction.

T.G 01-07-2011 07:24 PM
Re: Xikar Cutter-Not Released to Public Yet
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katmancross (Post 1123828)
Thank you, Adam.

But you don't say if you own a Palio? Obviously, you've used one. Do you think they are worth the dough?
In any case, described succinctly and easy enough for my tiny little brain to absorb.
You are a genius!
Do you do windows?

The Kat
Thanks.

Yes, I do own a Palio - one of the original Amyx & Christy models.

I agree with Peter. The basic black one is worth the dough. The upgraded finishes are just personal touches for extra cost, if you like them, great, but it's the exact same cutter, body and allunder that finish as the base black one.

I do windows, but I charge extra for 3.0, 3.1, 3.11/WFWG, 95, 98, ME, NT3.5, NT3.5 and NT4.0 because they are so archaic and after dealing with them since they were first released, I'm sick of them. And, no, just because xwindows is GNU and free, doesn't mean my time is to fix it after someone breaks it.:D

Katmancross 01-07-2011 07:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1123869)
Thanks.

Yes, I do own a Palio - one of the original Amyx & Christy models.

I do windows, but I charge extra for 3.0, 3.1, 3.11/WFWG, 95, 98, ME, NT3.5, NT3.5 and NT4.0 because they are so archaic and after dealing with them since they were first released, I'm sick of them.
I am directing you to go outside, strip down to your socks, find a nearby duck, hold a pine cone between your teeth, lift the duck to your cheek(face), walk slowly to a a bar that opens at 6am, and sit at the end of the bar and cry like the call of the Southern Right Whale Dolphin. If the phone rings, answer it by saying, "Guido here." If they ask which Guido?, hang up.

Katmancross 01-07-2011 07:33 PM
Re: Xikar Cutter-Not Released to Public Yet
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1123838)
I can't speak for Adam.

I think the basic black ones are most definitely worth the dough. The value of the special finishes really depends on how much it's worth to you. That is just cosmetic. I own multiple Palios and I can't say enough good things about them. Xikar makes a great cutter but I don't care for the ergonomics. Palio is a top quality cutter backed by an outstanding warranty and the owners are great guys (and personal friends). Those here that have met Marc, Jack and Mike would agree.

If I only had a job....If I were a rich man,
Ya ha deedle deedle, bubba bubba deedle deedle dum.
All day long I'd biddy biddy bum.
If I were a wealthy man.

T.G 01-07-2011 07:35 PM
Re: Xikar Cutter-Not Released to Public Yet
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katmancross (Post 1123879)
I am directing you to go outside, strip down to your socks, find a nearby duck, hold a pine cone between your teeth, lift the duck to your cheek(face), walk slowly to a a bar that opens at 6am, and sit at the end of the bar and cry like the call of the Southern Right Whale Dolphin. If the phone rings, answer it by saying, "Guido here." If they ask which Guido?, hang up.
What happens if they call and ask for Luigi?

Katmancross 01-07-2011 07:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1123888)
What happens if they call and ask for Luigi?
You're in the wrong bar. I can't believe you asked that.

T.G 01-07-2011 08:03 PM
Re: Xikar Cutter-Not Released to Public Yet
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katmancross (Post 1123893)
You're in the wrong bar. I can't believe you asked that.
You didn't say WHICH bar that opens at 6am. Sheez. I'll go over to the other one.

What do you want me to tell the bartender when they ask about your tab, and why I'm sitting there with your duck?

big a 01-07-2011 08:38 PM
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I got a cutter just like that from smoke-inn as a gift when i got my anarchy's along with a hand written thank you letter. Feels kinda cheap but still a very nice gesture.

montecristo#2 01-08-2011 11:45 AM
Re: Xikar Cutter-Not Released to Public Yet
 
The Tatuaje buzz cutter (the one you get as an extra at events) also has the backstop and looks and feels a little cheap compared to the Xikars and Palios. With that said, it cuts perfectly fine and I like the backstop. Straight cut and you can re-cut more times if you want to take more off.

I use it more than my Palio these days.

Katmancross 01-08-2011 11:52 AM
Re: Xikar Cutter-Not Released to Public Yet
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1123948)
You didn't say WHICH bar that opens at 6am. Sheez. I'll go over to the other one.

What do you want me to tell the bartender when they ask about your tab, and why I'm sitting there with your duck?

A man with your intelligence must ask me this?
First, pay my tab, fool.
Second, that duck was passed down to me over 3 generations. It is sacred and I find it offensive that you are cavalier about it. There is no friend like a duck that is 80 years old. That's a loyal friend.
Of course, the downside is that he goes, "quaiirrkkk" instead of quack! He's a little verkakte (Yiddish for falling apart).
I now take your leave.


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