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hammondc 11-16-2010 07:28 AM
Re: Aging Beer?
 
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Originally Posted by xlc12rf (Post 1063035)
The only IPA I've had that was better with some age was 120 min.. and that isn't exactly a traditional IPA.

Aging right now I have some black ops, Brooklyn BCS, Bigfoot, Old school, Old Horizontal, WWS, Vertical Epics, IRS, Stout Trooper, Mosnter, Storm King, Double Bastard. That's all i can remember off the top of my head.
Beat me to it on 120 Min. Good collection going there. I have a few years of Bigfoot and Storm King. Just 2 years of Stone IRS though. THAT is probably my favorite stout. Never had WWS though. I have not seen it here in TX. I can usually get lots of 120 min, but no WWS.

cricky101 11-16-2010 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Lautréamont (Post 1063345)
I buy a case of Trader Joe's Vintage beer every year. It's brew by Unibroue usually in the style of a Belgium strong ale or Double. They age wonderfully and the improvement after a year is remarkable. I also love to age Hennipen, the Saison style brew from Ommegang. A year in the bottle does wonders to bring out complex floral notes.

Do you know when the Trader Joe's release is typically available?

ChicagoWhiteSox 11-16-2010 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackDog (Post 1063081)
Regarding CWS oroginal post, Founder's Breakfast Stout is a coffee stout. Coffee stouts do not age well. The coffee fades.

However, many high abv beers do age well. The criteria for the "best" beers to age are that they are: 1) High ABV; 2) Do not depend upon fresh hop aromas for their flavor; and 3) Are bottle conditioned and not pasturized.
Yeah the coffee flavors definitly were faded. The body was thinnner as well.

I have some beers in mind of what I might want to age. Bell's Expedition Stout, Founders Imperial Stout, Goose Island BCS, and maybe some St. Bernardus or Chimay.

xlc12rf 11-16-2010 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by hammondc (Post 1063378)
Beat me to it on 120 Min. Good collection going there. I have a few years of Bigfoot and Storm King. Just 2 years of Stone IRS though. THAT is probably my favorite stout. Never had WWS though. I have not seen it here in TX. I can usually get lots of 120 min, but no WWS.
I have some available locally if you want me to ship it.

St. Lou Stu 11-16-2010 09:18 AM
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Simple Beer Aging Math by Jack Handy:

Big bodied malty beers > 7% ABV age nicely.
Light bodied beers < 7% ABV do not typically age well.
Hops dissipate rather quickly regardless of ABV.

kaisersozei 11-16-2010 12:19 PM
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I was going to start quoting and :tpd:, but then I realized I agreed with about 80% of these posts.

So I'm just gonna go have a beer. :D

romwarrior 11-16-2010 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cricky101 (Post 1063379)
Do you know when the Trader Joe's release is typically available?
Usually Nov-Jan. Hopefully soon!

Jbailey 11-16-2010 03:35 PM
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Would like to hear from anyone trying any aged beer. Going to be comparing last years Founders Backwoods Bastard to this years soon. Will report back with my thoughts.

Bubba - NJ 11-16-2010 07:31 PM
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I have a St.Bernardus Christmas Ale from '09 that I can't wait to drink on Christmas Eve with my father , it was amazing last year . I have some Brooklyn BCS from last year that just doesn't seem as good now but I'll revisit it . Chimay Premier is really good fresh but it gets to OMG after only 1 year of rest . Wish they made a Bomber of it like the Blue label .

mosesbotbol 11-16-2010 07:37 PM
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Pick up the Beligan Ales while they last at Costco. Delerium cases look mighty temping and even easier than storing wine as they kept upright.

bresdogsr 11-16-2010 08:44 PM
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Have some year old DFH 90 minute. Much smoother less hoppy very good, but different from fresh.

Jbailey 11-16-2010 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba - NJ (Post 1064323)
I have a St.Bernardus Christmas Ale from '09 that I can't wait to drink on Christmas Eve with my father , it was amazing last year . I have some Brooklyn BCS from last year that just doesn't seem as good now but I'll revisit it . Chimay Premier is really good fresh but it gets to OMG after only 1 year of rest . Wish they made a Bomber of it like the Blue label .
They do make the Chimay Premier (red) in the 750ml.

Lumpold 11-17-2010 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1064336)
Pick up the Beligan Ales while they last at Costco. Delerium cases look mighty temping and even easier than storing wine as they kept upright.
In the words of Gordon Gecko and his Wall Street cronies.... BUY BUY BUY. This is some solid advice, right on. Now I should talk to CostCo here and tell them to get the Belgian ales in. Their ale selection here in the UK is poor - a Wychwood selection case, and a 12 bottle mixed case, outside of that it's all lager :td

mosesbotbol 11-26-2010 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Lumpold (Post 1064614)
In the words of Gordon Gecko and his Wall Street cronies.... BUY BUY BUY. This is some solid advice, right on.
Picke up two Delirium's I plan to age. I have some wine boxes I keep upright with Madeira and Champagne, so I thought a couple beers added would be a nice addition. The bottles are marked 2010, so not sure when I should consider drinking them. Every time I go in, I will pick up a few and soon I'll have a few cases in the cellar (is the plan).

Anyone have experience with drinking older Delirium?

mosesbotbol 11-26-2010 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbailey (Post 1064490)
They do make the Chimay Premier (red) in the 750ml.
Thought I saw a 5L at a liquor store once?

Jbailey 11-26-2010 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1074240)
Thought I saw a 5L at a liquor store once?
I've seen the blue in those bottles.

Sauer Grapes 11-26-2010 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by hammondc (Post 1063378)
Beat me to it on 120 Min. Good collection going there. I have a few years of Bigfoot and Storm King. Just 2 years of Stone IRS though. THAT is probably my favorite stout. Never had WWS though. I have not seen it here in TX. I can usually get lots of 120 min, but no WWS.
You aren't missing much with WWS IMO. I've never been a fan, and I do like my share of imperial stouts. WWS just tastes like stout flavored hard liquor.

Bill86 11-26-2010 06:55 PM
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Really? I love WWS it's probably my favorite imperial stout. That said TNs distribution is horrible so I haven't had TOO many even worth mentioning. :td

mosesbotbol 11-27-2010 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbailey (Post 1064490)
They do make the Chimay Premier (red) in the 750ml.
I saw the red in 750 today. The store had a white red and blue label Chimay's in 750 for $11-13. I bought 2 St. Bernardus. I plan to revisit in 5+ years.

I did not see a brew date on the St. Bernardus. The Delirium's I bought last week were dated Feb 2010.

ChicagoWhiteSox 12-12-2010 11:38 AM
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Bought a bottle of Lost Abbey Serpent's Stout with the intention of aging 2-3 years. Thougths?

http://www.lostabbey.com/lost-abbey-...erpents-stout/


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