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357 10-14-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nefari0us (Post 1022836)
Where, might I ask, does one obtain Kangaroo meat? And is it fit for human consumption lol

I hear it is commonly eaten down under. Like venison is here, or so I've heard.

babybob2k 10-14-2010 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nefari0us (Post 1022836)
Where, might I ask, does one obtain Kangaroo meat? And is it fit for human consumption lol

http://www.exoticmeatsandmore.com/kangaroo.aspx

:D

Blueface 10-14-2010 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kaisersozei (Post 1022827)
Thanks for this article, my vet feels the same--the piece I quoted relates to problems that we've encountered with our pug (who acts more like a cat than a dog, anyway.) He couldn't tolerate beef, chicken or lamb for some reason, so the vet experimented with all kinds of diet modifications. Went through a vegan/grain heavy diet for awhile then offered the option of adding in one of the following types of animal protein: duck, pork, fish and kangaroo. We went with kangaroo, and he's now eating like a champ.

If you want to read up some more on his thoughts, here is his site:
www.therightremedy.com

gvarsity 10-14-2010 03:12 PM

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So is the vegan dog food tested on animals? I can't tolerate animal testing. :D

LasciviousXXX 10-14-2010 03:21 PM

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IMO, dogs should eat other dogs... preferably smaller ones :D

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...X/cebcd2c8.jpg

My dog, about to eat Echo's dog :lr

LasciviousXXX 10-14-2010 03:21 PM

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LOL, nah they're buds

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...X/0aa34b11.jpg


My Rottie has a sensitive stomach, like most other Rotties. However, he does really well on Innova Evo Red Meat blend. No grains, high protein but good balance. I dig it

kaisersozei 10-15-2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Nefari0us (Post 1022836)
Where, might I ask, does one obtain Kangaroo meat? And is it fit for human consumption lol

:D It's a prescription (read $$$$!) dog food that has kangaroo meat as it's main protein source. We get the kibble, I think it's a Eukanuba vet product.

TheTraveler 10-15-2010 06:04 PM

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My dog eats vegans.

:D

mariogolbee 10-15-2010 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 1022279)
A vegan diet can kill a dog. There are vital proteins and amino acids that are only available from animal sources.

I'm not sure about the physiology of canines but we humans form most of the proteins and amino acids we need within our own bodies. The rest can be easily supplemented with nuts and a few other foods.

I have no position on the vegan dog issue but I imagine it could be perfectly healthy for dogs. Doesn't most dog food come out of a can or bag anyway? If the dog enjoys it and the food provides what it needs does it matter whether it contains meat products? These questions obviously have no bearing on those whom feed their dogs actual meat.

T.G 12-14-2010 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1022310)
I wouldn't go that far with mine to put him on a veggie diet.
That is nuts.
Dogs are still 99% wolves.
Wolves eat meat.

I do however have mine on an all natural raw meat diet.
It is comprised of raw meat along with organic vegetables.
He loves it.
Use to be stubborn to eat, now can't wait for the next meal.
Comes frozen and I thaw out 24 hours in advance, in one ounce cubes.
Recommended by vet and makes total sense when you think about it as grain in the food is used as a filler and not good for them as not intended to be digested by them.

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1022338)
While they come in different meat types such as chicken, lamb, beef, turkey and sardine and on and on, and I give him all, here is the chicken as an example.
It contains lots of veggies but the main ingredient and focus is raw meat.
Nothing too good for my best friend.
He is slim and trim.
His coat is healthy.
He is a 13 year old that has the energy of a puppy.

So, while primarily meat based, this diet does contain a large aspect of "veggies" as I come to think of it.

Ingredients: Chicken, Chicken Necks, Ground Chicken Bones, Chicken Hearts, Organic Kale, Organic Carrots, Organic Yams, Chicken Livers, Organic Broccoli, Organic Apples, Organic Ground Flaxseed, Cranberries, Organic Apple Cider Vinegar, Organic Parsley, Organic Coconut Oil, Organic Kelp, Alfalfa, Mixed Tocopherols (source of vitamin E).

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1022964)
If you want to read up some more on his thoughts, here is his site:
www.therightremedy.com


Thanks for the info Carlos.

What brand of food are you using?

justonemorestick 12-14-2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by akumushi (Post 1022489)
Reminds me of this Futurama.

That was just the episode I was thinking about.

I personally feed my Dane dry kibble lamb and rice and he seems to be doing great 28"+ and over 75lbs at 6 months. My rott had a fatty tumor and when I got away from a corm based feed it is reducing without any intervention. So is important to feed a dog proper food rather than some goofy new age vegan diet.

Blueface 12-14-2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1093919)
Thanks for the info Carlos.

What brand of food are you using?

Here you go:
http://www.primalpetfoods.com/

SvilleKid 12-14-2010 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 1022279)
A vegan diet can kill a dog. There are vital proteins and amino acids that are only available from animal sources.

Yep. This is well documented. The only problem..... Ever read the ingredient label for most dry dog foods? Almost all are nearly "Vegan" already. Full of a bunch of grains, very little meat-based proteins.

My dog(s) get table scraps, supplemented by good quality dog foods when needed. Most of my dogs live well past the normal live expectancy, so the diet must be working. Including the poultry bones. Never had a dog choke on a bone in the 50+ years I've been feeding them to dogs. Checked with my mother. She's 81. Fed their dogs scraps all their lives, never had one choke on a bone. Lots of good iron and protein in the marrow of those bones!!!

T.G 12-14-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1094060)

Thanks bro.

mosesbotbol 12-14-2010 06:13 PM

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Raw turkey necks are great for larger dogs.


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