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Eleven 03-09-2011 03:02 PM

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Bruins fans around the world have to turn in their "Matt Cooke" card, it's no longer valid.

Ahbroody 03-09-2011 03:09 PM

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None taken brother I am sure Al would agree with you ;).
I think given the history of the two and the teams Chara had bad intentions, but as you said it was a quick play. When he pushes him into the corner I just see that as intent. As you know the bad guy never tells you he meant to do it so you often rely on past actions and current actions. It was safe to say there was a history between the two bases on the video I posted and its safe to say his left arm extended forcing him into the corner.

I respectfully disagree.

JackSchwartz 03-09-2011 03:16 PM

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From TSN.ca:

"Max Pacioretty has a severe concussion, as well as a fracture of the fourth cervical vertebrae, but it's not displaced," Martin said. "Max will remain at the hospital for further observation. There will be no other prognosis for the time being, but he will obviously be out indefinitely. The most important thing for our organization right now is Max's recovery. We will continue following recommendations from the doctors and of course, Max and his immediate family would appreciate privacy in this matter."


I wish the kid a speedy recovery, hopefully he's on the ice next year.

Ahbroody 03-09-2011 04:15 PM

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http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=555437
Wondering if the Yotes will ultimately be moved. Wonder if someone is working behind the scenes.

Sharks are nipping at the Wings heels. 2 points back. Tough to say, but lets go Kings. :r

GreekGodX 03-09-2011 05:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1200123)
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=555437
Wondering if the Yotes will ultimately be moved. Wonder if someone is working behind the scenes.

Sharks are nipping at the Wings heels. 2 points back. Tough to say, but lets go Kings. :r

Heard either the Coyotes or Atlanta is headed to Winnipeg. Coyotes if they can't get someone to buy the team. I guess in Atlanta they want a local owner..

Wow rooting for the Kings. Sad day in NHL banter. Hope the Wings spoil your evening :D

Ahbroody 03-09-2011 06:21 PM

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LoL I thought todays banter has been highly entertaining.
Atleast I know I had a lot of fun stirring the pot. :r

I guess its kind of a tough call, but I would rather see the Sharks catch the Wings then worry about the Kings gaining on the Sharks. Sick I know. Would be poetic justice for the Sharks to tank the rest of the season and lose the last playoff spot to the Kings. Hahahaa. Didnt buy playoff tickets this year so meh. Spending to much on the kids hockey and stuff. Figure if they make it to the conf finals Ill put a deposit down on tickets for next year and buy then.

Ahbroody 03-09-2011 08:16 PM

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Ooooo man Toms going to be pissed. That game was not the best officiated.

jaycarla 03-09-2011 08:24 PM

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Went to the Pens/Sabres game last night in Pittsburgh. I live in Seattle and since the NBA hijacked the Sonics I would love an NHL team in Seattle to fill the void left at Key Arena. There is nothing there now aside from the WNBA Seattle Storm. Any of the NHL fans in this thread know of any rumblings/potential of Seattle maybe becoming a potential city for an NHL team?

TV does not do the NHL justice. Being there live for a game was just awesome. Granted it was in Pittsburgh which is a great hockey town, but if I could even have 50% of the experience in Seattle I would be in for season tickets.

Sorry for butting in on the thread, but I didn't know where else to go.

Eleven 03-09-2011 08:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaycarla (Post 1200550)
Any of the NHL fans in this thread know of any rumblings/potential of Seattle maybe becoming a potential city for an NHL team?

Portland wanted a team a few years ago I think. The Pens were on that list before Mario saved them.

I would bet that if any team moves, it's going back to Canada. Atlanta and Phoenix seem to be on the chopping block. Winnepeg and Hamilton want teams, and there is even talk of a 2nd Toronto team!

If you're in Seattle, get your passport up to speed and call the Canucks your home team!


BTW, how was the Consol Energy Center? Me and the wife are going to the Pens/Habs game on Saturday.

icehog3 03-09-2011 09:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1200075)

I respectfully disagree.

I respect your respect, and am amicable to not agreeing, Mike. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1200530)
Ooooo man Toms going to be pissed. That game was not the best officiated.

Nah, with all the giveaways the Hawks D made tonight, they were lucky to get the point.

gravelman 03-09-2011 09:33 PM

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Only saw the end of the Blues game tonight, but was lucky enough to see the amazing overtime goal by Stewart, it was quite amazing!!

Ahbroody 03-09-2011 11:24 PM

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The Colorado trade is shaping up to be the worst trade in many years.

GreekGodX 03-10-2011 06:04 AM

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Well you got your wish Mike :td

Prefy 03-10-2011 07:13 AM

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Here's some unexpected fallout from the Chara - Patches hit.

Quote:

Report: Air Canada threatens NHL sponsorship over headshots

By Greg Wyshynski

For those who feel the NHL has been neglectful in aggressively policing hits to the head out of the game, it's often asked what, exactly, will get the League's attention.

Former stars whose careers were cut short by concussions speaking out? Scientific studies showing the degenerative effects headshots have on the brain? A season in which several high-profile players, including Sidney Crosby(notes), were lost to concussions?

In the end, perhaps it's money that speaks the loudest.

According to Bruce Garrioch of QMI, a letter written by Air Canada's director of marketing communications Denis Vandal and addressed to Gary Bettman threatens to pull the major sponsor's support of the NHL if there isn't more action taken on headshots and player safety in the League.

From the Toronto Sun:

"We are contacting you (Wednesday) to voice our concern over (Tuesday night's) incident involving Max Pacioretty(notes) and Zdeno Chara(notes) at the Bell Centre in Montreal," wrote Vandal. "This is following several other incidents involving career-threatening and life-threatening headshots in the NHL recently."

Vandal noted the controversial issue is becoming bad for Air Canada's brand.

"From a corporate social responsibility standpoint, it is becoming increasingly difficult to associate our brand with sports events which could lead to serious and irresponsible accidents; action must be taken by the NHL before we are encountered with a fatality.

"Unless the NHL takes immediate action with serious suspension to the players in question to curtail these life-threatening injuries, Air Canada will withdraw its sponsorship of hockey."

A cynical approach to this news would be that it capitalizes on the wave of outrage sweeping through Canada over the lack of punishment for Zdeno Chara. And the thought that this is some kind of PR opportunism given the gravity of the situation is stomach-turning.

Also, the notion of a sponsor attempting to influence the on-ice product, as altruistic as its aim may be, can't be something fans see as a positive development.

The real issue? Whether other sponsors find it "becoming increasingly difficult to associate [their] brand with sports events which could lead to serious and irresponsible accidents." Because while Air Canada's on its soapbox, the NHL is sitting on a pile of sponsorship money, having grown revenue 32 percent from 2008-10.

Bridgestone, Cisco Systems, McDonald's, Canadian Tire, Tim Hortons, BlackBerry, Discover and Hershey's all have new deals with the NHL this season, and MillerCoors inked a new $400 million deal. What do they think?

icehog3 03-10-2011 07:57 AM

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Air Canada can suck a big bag of ****s. :2

Prefy 03-10-2011 08:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1200847)
Air Canada can suck a big bag of ****s. :2

My thoughts exactly:tpd:

Bruins Fan 03-10-2011 08:09 AM

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Montreal fans are off their rocker, they are jamming the police lines wanting Chara arrested.
The police had to go to media and tell the nuts to stop jamming the phone lines.
There was no head shot, it was a legal hit.
Just another reason Boston fans despise with a passion the Canadiens.
I did not want to say it before but their boy Max is no angle you reap what you sow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-onQTLSRBXQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqQHNFFXzWM

Prefy 03-10-2011 01:57 PM

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This whole situation is really starting to piss me off and I'm a Habs fan. The injury was terrible but hit was nothing worse then the penalty that was assessed.

I do believe that it was interference as you can't impede the player when they chip the puck past you. That being said that kind of check happens all the time on the players bench where a bigger defensmen rides a smaller player into the boards. The only reason Patches gets hurt is because of the stansion.

People are speaking out on this matter just to get in on the media hype including the Prime Minister of Canada.

Chara is now under criminal investigation in Quebec which is a ****ing joke. Hopefully once they find nothing wrong and people can give it a rest.

icehog3 03-10-2011 02:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Prefy (Post 1201290)
Chara is now under criminal investigation in Quebec which is a ****ing joke. Hopefully once they find nothing wrong and people can give it a rest.

Complete and utter nonsense. Maybe we can make NHL hockey a "no check" league.

Ahbroody 03-10-2011 03:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 1200752)
Well you got your wish Mike :td

;s

As to the criminal investivation Im sure its fluff do to the amount of phone calls the pd recieved in montreal.

As to the hit its a shame there has been talk he may never play again do to the fracture of the neck and teams being to scared. His carrer may be over. So I would ask any of the Boston posters remember Savard when posting and think a second.

As to the hit. I think he knew, but I am sure he had no idea it would turn out like this. Its clear he didnt like him, but I am sure he didnt think he would hurt him so bad. Its sad the kid actually could have died or been paralyzed for life. That arm pushing his head towards the stanchion just looks hmmmm.

Going to be interesting to watch this play out over the next few months. Glad it was not a player I was a fan off.

Bruins Fan 03-10-2011 03:34 PM

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The Savard incident was a blind side head shot issued by a known cheap shot artist, not the same thing.

Ahbroody 03-10-2011 03:56 PM

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I meant showing some damn respect for the injured player. You know the guy who could have been paralyzed and whos carrer may be over? Not posting video clips trying to say well he has boarded someone so whats the big deal hes not an angel etc. Its about showing some compassion. The same you would expect for Savard. This appears to have been a complex request for some as you actually had to read the post.

As to Savard hit, Cooke is a POS certainly, but at the time of the hit it was 100% legal. Some people think this was every bit as dirty and even worse showing a disregard for fellow players safety. Now understanding this would require an open mind so it may be lost on some.

Edit:
Have talked at the rink with some of the guys. Opinion os pretty split. I see the hockey play argument, no ones arguing that. Some of us just think that arm pushing the head and the history looks like he knew and had intent

Bruins Fan 03-10-2011 04:11 PM

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Yeah your right, hockey, might be to rough of a game for some people?
Badminton might be a better game to follow?

Ahbroody 03-10-2011 04:16 PM

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Savard should have taken up badminton I guess.

Eleven 03-10-2011 04:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ahbroody (Post 1201431)
savard should have taken up badminton i guess.


ouch!

Bruins Fan 03-10-2011 04:26 PM

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Savards career is over at age 33 he will never be back?

Ahbroody 03-10-2011 04:26 PM

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Hey dont blame me. That was a buddy fock pass to the nuetral zone with head down. I just finished my check.

E.J. 03-10-2011 05:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1200680)
The Colorado trade is shaping up to be the worst trade in many years.

Thanks for the kick in the nuts, Mike....;) Come on, Stewy only has like 9 goals(12 points) since the trade(11 games)... Shattenkirk has 5 assists to go along with that, or one more than EJ has in his 8 games with the AVS.

I'm not giving up on the trade or the AVS!

I am an Avalanche, Broncos and Jazz fan in professional sports I follow closely.....and as of this writing, I am cheering for teams that are TERRIBLE...

(I have had my day in the sun and multiple Championships from 2 of the 3, in my adult lifetime)

icehog3 03-10-2011 05:28 PM

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OK, Boys, let's keep it civil, we can disagree and still not take each other's heads off. ;)

E.J. 03-10-2011 05:47 PM

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*EDIT* Looks like I am a little late with this...but here is the article

Montreal police started a criminal investigation Thursday into the on-ice hit by Boston's Zdeno Chara that left the Canadiens' Max Pacioretty with a severe concussion and cracked vertebra.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/P...o-Chara-031011


Come on....really?:rolleyes:

kugie 03-10-2011 06:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by E.J. (Post 1201554)
*EDIT* Looks like I am a little late with this...but here is the article

Montreal police started a criminal investigation Thursday into the on-ice hit by Boston's Zdeno Chara that left the Canadiens' Max Pacioretty with a severe concussion and cracked vertebra.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/P...o-Chara-031011


Come on....really?:rolleyes:

That is ridiculous. They actually had the Police get on the news and ask the public to stop calling the 911 and report the Chara indecent.

Prefy 03-10-2011 06:49 PM

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Just found that yahoo stream Versus games. Us IP required which is probably never noticed before.

Watching the Bruins-Sabres game right now. Been a pretty good game so far except for a phantom boarding call on Chara.

Nucks @ Sharks is up later tonight, should be a good one!

Bruins Fan 03-10-2011 06:58 PM

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B's been playing short handed all night lots of phantom calls:td
Things did get lively at the end of the period :sl

icehog3 03-10-2011 07:48 PM

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I have lots of friends in Canada, so this is not meant for the 99.9% of normal people there...but there must be some real boobs in Montreal, calling 911. :r

Ahbroody 03-10-2011 07:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by E.J. (Post 1201503)
Thanks for the kick in the nuts, Mike....;) Come on, Stewy only has like 9 goals(12 points) since the trade(11 games)... Shattenkirk has 5 assists to go along with that, or one more than EJ has in his 8 games with the AVS.

I'm not giving up on the trade or the AVS!

I am an Avalanche, Broncos and Jazz fan in professional sports I follow closely.....and as of this writing, I am cheering for teams that are TERRIBLE...

(I have had my day in the sun and multiple Championships from 2 of the 3, in my adult lifetime)

You know I love yah man. Just saying it already looks bad and may look worse next season. Its like the waling up the morning after and realizing ooooo shiz. Just ask Tom.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prefy (Post 1201623)
Just found that yahoo stream Versus games. Us IP required which is probably never noticed before.

Watching the Bruins-Sabres game right now. Been a pretty good game so far except for a phantom boarding call on Chara.

Nucks @ Sharks is up later tonight, should be a good one!

Watching the Bs feed also. In and out of the room, but the Commentary has been interesting, of what Ive seen apparently not a single penalty call was good.

As for the Sharks Canucks. Thinking the Sharks wont catch the Wings tonight. The Canucks are playing better Sharks I think are still down Boyle and they played bad the other night. If they come out like that tonight they could be down 0-3 after one.


Yes Tom. That was laser show though.

Edit
Ooo and there French remember that explains a lot no?

Ahbroody 03-10-2011 09:28 PM

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LoL on 2-0 after one. Figured it would be 3-0.

Should be a pushback but wonder if it will be enough

Ahbroody 03-10-2011 09:35 PM

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Uhhhhhhh wow

Ooooooo damn 2-2

Damn it Eager!

icehog3 03-10-2011 11:05 PM

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What a game!! :wo

Ahbroody 03-11-2011 12:25 AM

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Sad I sold my tickets to tonights game. That was one of the best if not the best game played at the tank this year. Its just to damn hard to go this much with little kids.

Are the Redwings hearing the jaws theme? Theyre coming looks like the Blackhawks are also. Could they fall to 4th or 5th and face the Yotes again? This is getting gooooooood. I guess the Hawks wont be golfing like you thought they might.

Tom I took Micah on tuesday was great fun hes making it the whole game now. Little man had everyone around us laughing with his expert opinions. He still thinks they need to camp the net like he does cause thats how you get goals. :r

icehog3 03-11-2011 12:32 AM

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I wish I could see Micah play.....hopefully someday.

I no longer think the Hawks will be golfing...actually I think if Crawford keeps playing the way he has, they have a good a shot as anyone in the West. Maybe there are a couple of lines as good as Toews/Kane/Sharp right now, but I doubt there is one better.

Sharks look really good, Wings are always in it, Canucks have so many weapons (and one Achilles heel, hopefully), and a few other teams are right in the mix. I know I will be missing Bif Buff if the Hawks catch Luongo sometime in the Spring.

Ahbroody 03-11-2011 08:29 PM

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Interesting game in the Joe.
I listened to the Edmonton feed on the radio. They said at the start of that 5-3 Detroit threw a water bottle on the ice to stall and buy time. Did that actually happen? Kind of a non issue as they didnt score, but you just dont see teams do that.

Jaws noise got quieter

Eleven 03-11-2011 09:04 PM

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An assistant coach on my kids team is from Pittsburgh, and works for a pretty big Steel company in Ohio. I figured he had connections so a few months ago I asked if he could hook me up with tickets to the March 12th Penguins game, it's me and the wife's anniversary.

He said "how much do you wanna pay?" and I told him it didn't matter, it was a special day for us, cost wouldn't get in the way of good tickets.

I just went down to Cincinnati today to pick them up from him and he hands me 2 executive suite tickets along with parking privileges and says "Happy Anniversary!"

Some people just do the nicest things, but of course we all know that. It's too bad he doesn't smoke cigars or I would hook him up!

I just wanted to share this amazing thing my buddy did for me!

We got a deal on the hotel, free tickets and parking...more money for the casino tomorrow after the Penguins beat the Habs!

-(P

Prefy 03-11-2011 10:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleven (Post 1202931)
An assistant coach on my kids team is from Pittsburgh, and works for a pretty big Steel company in Ohio. I figured he had connections so a few months ago I asked if he could hook me up with tickets to the March 12th Penguins game, it's me and the wife's anniversary.

He said "how much do you wanna pay?" and I told him it didn't matter, it was a special day for us, cost wouldn't get in the way of good tickets.

I just went down to Cincinnati today to pick them up from him and he hands me 2 executive suite tickets along with parking privileges and says "Happy Anniversary!"

Some people just do the nicest things, but of course we all know that. It's too bad he doesn't smoke cigars or I would hook him up!

I just wanted to share this amazing thing my buddy did for me!

We got a deal on the hotel, free tickets and parking...more money for the casino tomorrow after the Penguins beat the Habs!

-(P

Very cool story!

But I don't think the Pen are coming away with a "W" in that one;)

Bruins Fan 03-12-2011 03:15 AM

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B's drop 4th straight, I didn't like the make up of this team from the get-go. Playoffs.... they will be one and done.
Time for my fire Julien and Chiarelli rant to start up again:D

E.J. 03-12-2011 08:47 AM

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Avs let in 6 last night.....:rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleven (Post 1202931)
An assistant coach on my kids team is from Pittsburgh, and works for a pretty big Steel company in Ohio. I figured he had connections so a few months ago I asked if he could hook me up with tickets to the March 12th Penguins game, it's me and the wife's anniversary.

He said "how much do you wanna pay?" and I told him it didn't matter, it was a special day for us, cost wouldn't get in the way of good tickets.

I just went down to Cincinnati today to pick them up from him and he hands me 2 executive suite tickets along with parking privileges and says "Happy Anniversary!"

Some people just do the nicest things, but of course we all know that. It's too bad he doesn't smoke cigars or I would hook him up!

I just wanted to share this amazing thing my buddy did for me!

We got a deal on the hotel, free tickets and parking...more money for the casino tomorrow after the Penguins beat the Habs!

-(P

Love to hear stories like that....:tu Happy Anniversary!

MurphysLaw 03-12-2011 08:50 AM

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Heading down south tonight to see the Cats and Lightning go at it, can't wait!

kugie 03-12-2011 08:55 AM

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Not going well at all for the B's. :pu
The puck is not bouncing for them at all the last two games.
The other two they just sucked.:2
If they can get it together string a couple of ins in a row. Get some of that mean style they had on that road trip. They will do alright.

Stop going to Chara at the point for a one time shot on the power play move closer get the puck down low Let Kabrle run the point.:2

stevefrench 03-12-2011 02:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Prefy (Post 1202998)
Very cool story!

But I don't think the Pen are coming away with a "W" in that one;)

You called that one, Matt! :D

Prefy 03-12-2011 02:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stevefrench (Post 1203509)
You called that one, Matt! :D

:noon

Sawyer 03-12-2011 07:39 PM

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What an incredible hockey game tonight in Philly. Thrashers come back from a 3 point deficit to score 4 in the third and win it in OT 5-4. Unbelievable. Kinda puts a damper on Leino's hat trick. :noon


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