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Periferius 11-24-2012 02:40 AM

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Everyday watch is a Submariner, formal dress a Patek Philippe, for the rest: a Piquette and several Victorinox and of course my faithfull GI Marathon H3.

mosesbotbol 11-24-2012 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Periferius (Post 1754028)
Everyday watch is a Submariner, formal dress a Patek Philippe, for the rest: a Piquette and several Victorinox and of course my faithfull GI Marathon H3.

Which Patek do you own?

Periferius 11-25-2012 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1754198)
Which Patek do you own?

Golden Ellipse 5738P.

I like simple watches.

papichulo 11-25-2012 05:31 AM

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My daily wearers are a Nite or Luminox Seal.

mosesbotbol 11-25-2012 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Periferius (Post 1754401)
Golden Ellipse 5738P.

I like simple watches.

It's amazing the valuation Patek watches have had over the last 15 years. They went from very expensive to way-way-expensive, I think due to Chinese market. Good investment watch.

Periferius 11-25-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1754410)
Good investment watch.

Not to sound disagreeable, but that is never a good reason to buy something.

Remo 11-25-2012 10:42 AM

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Cigars have quelled my watch buying. Currently down to a Solar G-Shock (for work) and my Helson Shark Diver.

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larryinlc 11-25-2012 01:06 PM

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I buy and wear wristwatches for fun and not investing. I do invest in old pocketwatches, especially when I can save one from the gold melters. Here is a 120 year old 18s Waltham in 14k that was destined to be melted down for the gold. I couldn't let that happen to this beautiful case. It's so fine that I think it spent most of it's life stored away in a sock drawer. You just don't see them in this condition anymore. The cost to recreate a case like this today would be outrageous and I just can't believe that anybody would be willing to destroy this piece of history for greenbacks. That's me though, I'm different.:)

Larry

http://soochx.org/images/gold1-1.jpg

http://soochx.org/images/gold3.jpg

http://soochx.org/images/gold4.jpg

Periferius 11-25-2012 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by larryinlc (Post 1754501)
I buy and wear wristwatches for fun and not investing. I do invest in old pocketwatches, especially when I can save one from the gold melters. Here is a 120 year old 18s Waltham in 14k that was destined to be melted down for the gold. I couldn't let that happen to this beautiful case. It's so fine that I think it spent most of it's life stored away in a sock drawer. You just don't see them in this condition anymore. The cost to recreate a case like this today would be outrageous and I just can't believe that anybody would be willing to destroy this piece of history for greenbacks. That's me though, I'm different.:)

Larry


I lift my hat for you Sir.

mosesbotbol 11-26-2012 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Periferius (Post 1754438)
Not to sound disagreeable, but that is never a good reason to buy something.

Well there are a few marques if you buy them right, you won't lose money I should've said. Replacement cost are higher than when originally bought. Heck, I can sell my IWC used for more than I paid for it 15 years ago...

It'll be interesting to see how the market goes with Eta remaining exclusvie to Swatch group brands. Several marques have been scrambling to find replacements that'll be a direct fit. Tooling for a new case, and movement parts are $$$.

dijit 11-26-2012 07:05 AM

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I think I agree with dont buy a watch as an investment. While I cant afford a $10k fashion statement (yet), there are many things that appreciate faster than watches or even Gold. Ferrari's come quickly to mind the used ones often sell for double what they were new 2 years ago.

mosesbotbol 11-26-2012 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dijit (Post 1754828)
Ferrari's come quickly to mind the used ones often sell for double what they were new 2 years ago.

Which one's would those be? Considering ownership costs including insurance, salex tas and yearly excise tax... Maybe only the top of the range models could be true, and it's certainly not double.

dijit 11-26-2012 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1754861)
Which one's would those be? Considering ownership costs including insurance, salex tas and yearly excise tax... Maybe only the top of the range models could be true, and it's certainly not double.

This is based on what I read and was told by a former astronaut David Wolf and a former CEO for Conseco. In 2008 they both got on the new car waiting list. They did not share which models they were waiting for only that the new car price with applicable taxes and fees would be around $110K each and that resale on the cars were around $180K to $210K. A quick search for current prices shows a less positive move but the 458 italia 2010 model retail new $225k and used resale $264k. Excise tax is state dependent since not all states have excise tax on licensing auto's. Sales tax I am sure they did not include. However since that is a constant and based again on the state you live or register the car in can range from 0% to 10% or even more it would be very difficult to factor in.

dijit 11-26-2012 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1754861)
Which one's would those be? Considering ownership costs including insurance, salex tas and yearly excise tax... Maybe only the top of the range models could be true, and it's certainly not double.

Sorry misquoted the new car price for the 458 Italia. Invoice price was actually $191K current MSRP is $225K and current used retail actual price $264K still not quite what I was told several years ago but also not bad.

mosesbotbol 11-26-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dijit (Post 1754892)
Sorry misquoted the new car price for the 458 Italia. Invoice price was actually $191K current MSRP is $225K and current used retail actual price $264K still not quite what I was told several years ago but also not bad.

The other problem, even if one were to have 200K handy, it's not so easy to just buy a new Ferrari at the dealer. Their market cap allows them to be choosy who gets to buy new cars and how long the minimum ownership can be. If everyone just bought a new Ferrari and flipped it, the dealer would just increase the price.

If you want to hold something for several years, Cristal and Dom Perignon always increase in value and everyone can buy at it the same price when current at Costco, etc... See how much a 20 year old DP goes for compared to a current offering!

dijit 11-26-2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1754933)
The other problem, even if one were to have 200K handy, it's not so easy to just buy a new Ferrari at the dealer. Their market cap allows them to be choosy who gets to buy new cars and how long the minimum ownership can be. If everyone just bought a new Ferrari and flipped it, the dealer would just increase the price.

If you want to hold something for several years, Cristal and Dom Perignon always increase in value and everyone can buy at it the same price when current at Costco, etc... See how much a 20 year old DP goes for compared to a current offering!

Very few US Ferrari dealerships have new Ferrari's and it still allows them to be very picky with their clientele. Typically a prospective buyer would need to contact Ferrari sales directly through the manufacturer and decide to apply for the wait list and if it will be a dealer pickup or a factory pickup. The few Ferrari owners I have been able to converse with have stated that typically the factory encourages them to remain on the new car wait list even after purchase and to trade in the approximately 2 year old car. Typically this results in the owner being paid for their used car between 8 and 50% more than original sticker price. Dom or Cristal both are also subject to the year to determine the price both new and aged. This is determined by the acidity of the grape based on the rainfall and relative humidity fluctuations in the region. Too much moisture can cause the grape to be too sweet making the flavor flat too little can make the grape too tart making the wine too sharp or dry. Or maybe I have those backwards.

Periferius 11-26-2012 12:15 PM

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Nothing beats a fly down to Maranello and then driving home.

mosesbotbol 11-26-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Periferius (Post 1754976)
Nothing beats a fly down to Maranello and then driving home.

That would be awesome; European delivery. Ferrari is one of our clients and few co-workers have had quite the tour of the factory.

dijit 11-26-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1754983)
That would be awesome; European delivery. Ferrari is one of our clients and few co-workers have had quite the tour of the factory.

That is a tour I would love to take as well! with or without the drive home.

irratebass 12-11-2012 02:28 PM

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Got me an Invicta!!!!!

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6...8975D4E4DC.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6...8982A9A661.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6...89906702A3.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6...8998CF573E.jpg

Robulous78 12-11-2012 02:39 PM

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HULK of a watch.... Really sturdy looking... :tu

Don Fernando 12-11-2012 02:46 PM

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sweet, I love Invicta, glad I bought one from Neuron recently

Remo 12-14-2012 05:48 PM

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Sold my Helson, back to a Seiko SKX007

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Remo 12-17-2012 09:14 AM

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Dressed up the 007 today on the bracelet :tu

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blank 12-17-2012 01:38 PM

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i rock a sturhling now that i just got. im waiting for my diesel to get here. ive been looking at invitica and a few others. for great watches at a good price check out worldofwatches

PearlS4 12-17-2012 02:51 PM

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Planet Ocean
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=7573

blank 12-17-2012 04:50 PM

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i just got my mom a Akribos XXIV Women's White Dial White Ceramic and my little bro a Invicta Men's Corduba Blue Dial Black Leather for Xmas

emopunker2004 12-17-2012 06:17 PM

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Hey guys i know some of you are invicta fans. I put my Granddiver up in the WTS section.

FelonyRuckus 12-19-2012 03:43 AM

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Casio G-Shock, Swiss Army, Ritmo, Gucci, Tag Heuer S/EL, Tag Heuer 6000, IWC DaVinci, Panerai 104, Rolex Yacht Master.

Nathan 12-21-2012 06:04 PM

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Bought my first decent watch, a Victorinox. I couldn't get a good picture with my camera but found this online.

http://www.princetonwatches.com/imag...hes/241494.jpg

mosesbotbol 12-22-2012 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 1769203)
Bought my first decent watch, a Victorinox. I couldn't get a good picture with my camera but found this online.

http://www.princetonwatches.com/imag...hes/241494.jpg

Nice classic shape and colors. Quartz?

Nathan 12-22-2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1769366)
Nice classic shape and colors. Quartz?

Thanks, yeah it is.

Arval512 12-22-2012 06:41 PM

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I bought this as an early Christmas present for myself (That's a good excuse right?)

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...34928864_n.jpg

It's a Movado Sapphire Synergy watch. It's an upgrade from my Bulova Claremont from their precisionist line. I wear a Casio G-Shock Mudman at work. I don't think there's a better work watch around, that thing has taken a beating.

e-man67 12-27-2012 12:30 PM

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My wife got my this Rolex Submariner Date for my 40th this year. It is an 80's transitional model...I love it.

e-man67 12-27-2012 12:32 PM

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I just got this in the mail yesterday...My Christmas present to myself. A Panerai 177 model. I love watches.

elderboy02 12-27-2012 01:58 PM

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Very nice e-man! :tu

Blak Smyth 01-04-2013 08:19 AM

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WOW Woot has U-Boat watches on sale, makes me wish I had a credit card!!!
http://www.woot.com/plus/u-boat-watches#

Blak Smyth 01-04-2013 08:40 AM

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This is the one I would snag:
http://d3gqasl9vmjfd8.cloudfront.net...bbd1550756.jpg

dijit 01-04-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1775711)

Interesting design!

gettysburgfreak 01-06-2013 08:12 AM

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http://www.amazon.com/Bulova-Mens-98...=bulova+98a118

This looks pretty nice for a watch on the cheaper side. I have the bulova star marine and wear it almost as much as my tag carrera.

Blak Smyth 02-12-2013 06:24 AM

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Just ordered this Laco:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8388/8...e1e48f2dd7.jpg

Bondo 287 02-12-2013 07:08 AM

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Changed that question of mine to PM

ky70 02-12-2013 08:36 AM

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I was a "crazy" watch guy, I loved dive watches and mostly hoarded seikos and micro brands for the past 4 years. But I got tired of the hobby and sold everything I had by the end of 2012 and now I only have a pilot watch and 1 micro brand diver (Armida).

I've got on the Armida today...
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/v...ps30f2adf6.jpg

Blak Smyth 02-12-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ky70 (Post 1794258)
I was a "crazy" watch guy, I loved dive watches and mostly hoarded seikos and micro brands for the past 4 years. But I got tired of the hobby and sold everything I had by the end of 2012 and now I only have a pilot watch and 1 micro brand diver (Armida).

I've got on the Armida today...
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/v...ps30f2adf6.jpg

Looks really nice! :tu

mosesbotbol 02-12-2013 09:05 AM

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Looks really nice! :tu

Yes, it does. What kind of movement is it? Screw down crown?

Blak Smyth 02-12-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1794280)
Yes, it does. What kind of movement is it? Screw down crown?

From looking at the picture:
ARMIDA A4 2000m Diver ETA 2824-2

The Armida A4 2000m is a functional diver watch.
Its movement is a Swiss ETA2824-2
- 316l stainless steel case
- Blue dial and bezel - dial 2
- Brushed silver hands
- BGW9 lumed bezel, hour markers and hands
- 44 mm case diameter
- 45mm bezel diameter
- Lug to lug 54mm
- Lug distance 22mm
- Height 17mm
- Sapphire crystal 4 mm flat
- Anti reflective coating on the inside crystal
- 22mm steel bracelet and rubber strap
- Waterproof to 2000m/6600feet
- Screwed and signed crown 8mm
- 1 Year International Warranty

mosesbotbol 02-12-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1794283)
From looking at the picture:
ARMIDA A4 2000m Diver ETA 2824-2

The Armida A4 2000m is a functional diver watch.
Its movement is a Swiss ETA2824-2
- 316l stainless steel case
- Blue dial and bezel - dial 2
- Brushed silver hands
- BGW9 lumed bezel, hour markers and hands
- 44 mm case diameter
- 45mm bezel diameter
- Lug to lug 54mm
- Lug distance 22mm
- Height 17mm
- Sapphire crystal 4 mm flat
- Anti reflective coating on the inside crystal
- 22mm steel bracelet and rubber strap
- Waterproof to 2000m/6600feet
- Screwed and signed crown 8mm
- 1 Year International Warranty

Big watch. It has the main goodies you want in a watch. I wonder how long ago it was made? I thought ETA stopped supplying non Swatch brands. It could be that many manufacturers have good stock on movements still.

Remo 02-12-2013 12:39 PM

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Armida has been around a year or two. Same Chinese cases most boutiques are using...Helson, Deep Blue, Wilson Watch Works, Kemmner....but they are still all nice watches :tu

MurphysLaw 02-12-2013 02:04 PM

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Anyone have a Seiko 5 Automatic? Been looking at two different models, the SNK805 and SNZG09. I really want the similar looking, and more expensive Hamilton Khaki Mechanical, but I'll have to settle for a Seiko for the time being.

ky70 02-12-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Remo (Post 1794379)
Armida has been around a year or two. Same Chinese cases most boutiques are using...Helson, Deep Blue, Wilson Watch Works, Kemmner....but they are still all nice watches :tu

Yep...and I've had many from the others you list above plus watches from other boutique brands (Benarus, Boschett, Halios, Prometheus and Precista) and some put out watches/cases not available from a another watch brand (which include Fricker cases)


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