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That hit on Hossa looked nasty. Torres will be gone for a while I bet.

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In my opinion and I am not a Hawks homer though they are one of the teams I cheer for when the Sharks are not playing them. That troll pos should not be allowed on the ice till sometime next season. This will be atleast his third suspension. He is one of the dirtiest players in the game.

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Pens should start making Tee Times now. And really start working on how to play Defense next year :)

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I am thoroughly disgusted with the NHL at the moment, officials missing obvious calls and making ridiculous ones. Torres should be gone for the postseason plus.

Even if the Hawks come back in their series versus the Coyotes, they will likely play the next round without Hossa. It was a sick feeling watching him stretchered from the rink.

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You mean sorta like the Canucks have been without Daniel Sedin since Keith head hunted him Tom? Not wishing harm on Hossa, or any other player, but what goes around comes around... especially in a league that seems hell bent on ensuring no form of meaningful penalties try and stop all these so called professionals from going out on the ice and intentionally trying to injure each other. There was a caller on the local sports radio show earlier this week that likened the current playoffs to the Hunger Games and I can't say I disagreed with him.

What the NHL is allowing happen right now, on all team and in all series, is seriously turning me off the brand of the game they're trying to sell. Unfortunately, TV viewership is up across the board but especially in the lucrative US market. Given that that's Bettman and the NHL's ultimate wet dream I can't imagine we'll see any serious attempt to curb this MMA come Hunger Games On Ice BS anytime soon :(

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You know I hate Torres brother. That guys a scumbag and tries to hurt people. That play has really just stained the series. When a pos like Torres can injure one of the teams stars its ot a fair trade. As you said even if they move forward you have to wonder when or if Hossa can even return.

As to officiating I will say tonight I watched both the preds wings and hawks yotes. Both were poorly officiated. I am very glad the Preds won. To me the refs called a horrid game which helped the Wings so much. I have watched the waived off goal play multiple times and still cant figure out how they waived it off. How could he even argue intent to blow the whistle. Well thats what I am guessing he used. That was one of the worst decisions by a ref in these playoffs. That combined with the penalty imbalance 7 penalties to 3 and the 3-1 score is that much more impressive. The score was really 4-1. Hey Mike Howard is no Rinne. Not close. I said and will continue to say speed and Rinne is better appears will be the difference in this series.

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The thing that bothers me the most the Torres just went back to the bench like oh well. I don't care how much you don't like someone you still pay that player some respect. The officials once again sucked this game. I am waiting to see what happens Torres.

Rumor has it that is in on the golf course her the northern suburbs. I can we all go kick his arse!!

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Gotta love the Philly Daily News....:r

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...712_crosby.jpg

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CHICAGO (AP) Phoenix Coyotes forward Raffi Torres was suspended indefinitely Wednesday for a hit that knocked Chicago's Marian Hossa out of Game 3 in the teams' opening-round playoff series.

Torres faces a Friday hearing with NHL officials in New York. The hearing was planned for Wednesday but was deferred at the request of the player and NHL Players' Association.

Very nice!!!

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First, WFT happened here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_ardFsXSX8 ?????

Frustrating. Lidstrom, White, Hudler, AND Howard all follow Erat and overcommit. My 4 yr old daughter could have slammed home Klein's goal.



It killed me to watch that game. The Wings dominated the entire game except for a handful of mental lapses like the one above. Wings had 2.5 times the number of shots and scoring chances but can't score. The Preds capitalized on every mistake. I think Mike's right about Rinne. Last night Howard played poorly. Rinne has been the difference. The disallowed goal should have counted, amazing break the Wings couldn't take advantage of.

Rinne is definitely in the Wings head. They'll have to bomb him for 4-5 goals in game 5 to break through that mental block and have any chance to come back in this series. It won't happen, but that's the only scenario I can see them winning. I do feel the refs weren't perfect but the reason for the major penalty discrepancy was the fact the Wings were so aggressive. They held the puck in the Preds zone so much the Preds ended up committing more penalties out of desparation.

I read this article that kind of makes the same point about the team carrying the play not winning: http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.ph...with_a_hercul/


And as I've said http://detroitsportszone.wordpress.com/

And http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2012/04/...n-this-series/

I'm not trying to argue my point but just shine the light from a different perspective.

:bh

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I'll take a 2XLT if you see one.

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Some much $hit in this post. Got a little anti america note implying the game is being allowed to become more violent for us violent US folks eh Geoff. Go ahead and keep that crap out of this thread.
You mean when Keith returned the headshot he was given by Danielle in the same game?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3r97...e_gdata_player
Sedin hit him late and targeted the head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG6Sg...e_gdata_player
Keith decided to return the headshot.

Dont come in here telling half the story and posting the NHL is turning the league in to the hunger games a movie where killing is the goal to sell the game to the US market. Your post is crap. Your team is getting rolled. Will your city burn again this year? Honestly man what a crap post. I would like to write some more things, but I wont go to that level. Sure you will try to spin your post, but its garbage.

I see some people come in here and make excusses for their team getting beat. Its funny.

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I never tried to defend Keith's hit, I said it was suspendable from the start. As Mike implied, Daniel Sedin should have been suspended as well, but I certainly take no pleasure from seeing Sedin out, and the Canucks having an excuse for possibly being swept. A poor decision/reaction from Keith, but comparing Keith andf Torres? Gimmie a break, Torres has made a career of trying to end other players' careers. POS, plain and simple. :2

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I would expect (and hope) that he's used as an example to try and put an end to the BS in this year's post-season and given the rest of the playoffs with perhaps a few games into 2012-13 regular series. Short of Matt Cooke deciding to take someone's head off with his elbow this evening, Torres is just about the lowest hanging fruit possible that the league can tee up for Shannahan.

Ultimately however until the teams start taking this attitude of horrified shock and outrage when it's their own player that's given the hit nothing will change. The Blackhawks organization and fans are justifiably hopping mad over the Torres hit on Hossa, calling for his blood, etc, etc. Yet Keith's elbow on Sedin was arguably both worst and even less of a hockey play, but where was the outrage then from the Blackhawks? All I heard were the crickets disturbed when as they circled the wagon to try and protect Keith. While I certainly understand that reaction, nothing will ever change as long as the outrage exists right up until it's your own player that's the offender.

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You talk about the Hawks being "homers", but calling Keith's elbow worse? We can just agree to disagree.

Torres' wasn't a reaction, it's his M.O. :2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nomG4dU-mTk&feature=fvst

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpd0m-3iqi8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mMxKNul04

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIpwq9s-Yhs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRzzZ8GUkig

Shall I go on?

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This has nothing to do with being a homer or not, I use Sedin-Keith as an example simply because it's in everyone's mind locally. Pick whatever example you want; Toews, Crobsy, Hossa, Sedin, etc. My point is the same with all of them, BS like ALL of those injuries exist because the NHL has created a culture of enabling and head hiding because the teams scream blue bloody murder when it's their own player lying on the ice but then try their hardest to prevaricate and protect when the offender is their guy. If the NHL wants to actually change the culture then Phoenix has to be willing to condemn Torres as much as Chicago, Chicago condemn Keith as much as Vancouver, etc etc.

This mentality of it's the most evil thing ever until it's our guy that's going to be suspended at which point is was <insert generic overused weak pathetic excuse here> is a large part of the problem... and it exists on every single team in the league.

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Pens live to fight another day.

Rangers - Senators series changes dramatically either way with the next goal.

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Two big games so far tonight. And color me surprised that Luongo is sitting again.

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Not just on every team in this league, but every league period. I think it's called being a fan. I know when a player on an opposing team gets in trouble with the law, say a DWI, I think that the player should be thrown in jail and have the key thrown away. If it's a player of a team that I am a fan of, it's a lapse in judgement, and I'm sure he feels bad, and the bad publicity is punishment enough. Of course all of this is merely my opinion.

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Not surprised Luongo's sitting, Schneider's numbers are better and the team seems to play better in from of him. However barring some unforseen miracluous discovery of desire I'll bet this is Schneider's last game as a Canuck. Big changes coming in the off-season in Vancouver I think.

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Looks like Schneider gets one more. ;)

Hero of the Day (mine, anyway): Craig Anderson. :)

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Ya, I really didn't see that coming. Figured they were done tonight for sure. Amazing what a difference getting Sedin back into the lineup made, makes you almost believe in the image that was floating about today:

http://www.globaltvbc.com/uploadedIm...I-got-this.JPG

I don't see the Canucks losing 3 in a row at home, nor do I see them becoming the 4th team to recover from 0-3 in a series. Kings in 6.

Ya, he stood on his head for sure.

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Flyers got shellacked last night. Glad they're still up 3-1! I completely understand why the refs called the game the way they did last night, but I hope they let them play a little bit more tomorrow night.

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Lets go Sharks you can do it :r
Kind of like wishing the sun wont rise.

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Hawks may put Saad in the line-up tonight. Pretty much a "must win" for them too.

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Pretty awesome stuff.

http://vansunsportsblogs.com/2012/04...mbleweed-gifs/

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Well when your on a team with floppier what do you expect. I bet they compare dives and give each other scores.

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Coach Q for the Blackhawks fined $10,000 for criticizing the officials in Tuesday's game.

He should have bounced the referee's head off the glass, would have saved himself $7500.

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Chicago/Phoenix game has been great tonite.

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Another OT.... What a great series....

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And yet another OT goal that could have been stopped.

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Noooooooooooooooooo!
This is crap. Sharks Hawks both looking like firstbround eliminations. Who to cheer for.
Fack!

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I hope Hawks management realizes that this may be a yearly occurence if they don't sign a world class goalie.

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Strangely, with the Avs out....I find myself cheering for a few teams to lose, more than having investment in an actual winner of LSC.

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Should have looked at the cc forum more & jumped in on Tom's NHL playoff pool to get assigned a team to ride to the cup....

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E.J., if I would have drawn the Coyotes in the pool, I would still be rooting for the Hawks, and I know you would have done the same with the Avs,

If the Hawks are eliminated this round, my first love will be whoever is playing Phoenix. ;)

Unless it was Vancouver. :r

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All 4 Western series are 3-1. Unfortunately, only one of the 4 teams I am rooting for is leading, the Kings.

Might end up rooting for the East in the Finals for a second straight season.

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I'm with you. Horrible night. I guess I can pull for the Kings. This year is a bust it seems. Time to start watching aussie rules football and hoping the Giants can get to the world series again. Crap night.

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I was kinda thinking the same thing if the Pens get knocked out, I'll be cheering for one of the West teams to take the cup this year! (Pens don't have what it takes this year even if they manage to get out of the 1st round).

Actually I would be OK with anyone winning the cup except the Wings and the Flyers.

My realistic pick for the finals is St Louis and New York.

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:r :D

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Vancouver may be looking for someone to eat Luongo's contract ;)

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You thought the riots in Vancouver were bad? :r

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He should go back to Montreal, at least if they lose, they have thier native son in goal.

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Montreal has Price, goaltending is not their problem. The last thing Luongo needs is an even higher pressure market to play in. That's part of his problem in Vancouver, this market expects the team to win (and/or has elevated expectations because the team places higher normal due to the weakness of the NWD) and that puts a lot of pressure on the players. Doubly so in Luongo's case since he was brought in as the saviour to the Canucks problems and given a massive contract.

Realistically there are only a couple teams in the league that might feasibly take Luongo; Toronto, Edmonton, Chicago, New Jersey and Florida. Toronto is out because of the hate between Burke and Gillis, plus Toronto is high stress just like Montreal and Vancouver. Edmonton's out because his Floridian wife apparently hates "winter" in Vancouver, why would Luongo ever agree to move to Edmonton? Chicago is likely a no go because I just can't see the team or fans embracing him given the years of rivalry between the Canucks and Hawks. Really that leaves New Jersey and Florida. Luongo's wife is from Florida, all her family lives there, that's were he lives during the off-season and by all accounts it's home to him in every sense. My guess is, if Schneider saves the Canucks season and Luongo requests a trade to prevent becoming full-time #2 it will be to Florida.

That said, the Canucks might also find the cap room to keep them both. They make a great tandem, probably the best in the NHL, and have a very good working and personal relationship. Luongo might be willing to accept a 50/50 starting split to stay on a contender team for another couple seasons.... if he goes to back to Florida he's effectively resigning himself to never seeing his name on the Stanley Cup. Hell, staying in Vancouver is probably the same but at least there's a little more hope there :r

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I think Tampa Bay might be willing to look at Luongo.

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LOL, back to Florida with you!

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25 games for the cheap shot on Hossa

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Well the Hawks may extend their series tonight, but I think the Sharks are done.
The win in game one was OT against Halak since its been 3 games of being outplayed.
funny all three series Wings, Sharks and Yotes its been Goalies dominating. The Wings and Sharks especially your seeing good teams shut down by great goalies and young fast players.

Lets go Hawks Sharks.

And
Go Kings Go!
Go Kings Go!
Go Kings Go!

Holtby for President!

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:O

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:tu

1-0 Caps.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. :2