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GreekGodX 03-05-2011 08:08 AM

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What I've realized is that regular season play is not always indicative of how things will pan out in the playoffs, especially in the NHL.

icehog3 03-05-2011 10:17 AM

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Mike, you call out the Wings fans for making excuses for their loss, then make excuses why the Sharks lost the one they lost to the Wings. :r

Hawks have won 4 in a row, back in 4th in the Wild Wild West, and are the second hottest team in the NHL behind the Sharks. If they can learn to play 60 minutes every night like last night, they will be a threat to go far again in the postseason.

rebelknight 03-05-2011 10:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1194313)
Mike, you call out the Wings fans for making excuses for their loss, then make excuses why the Sharks lost the one they lost to the Wings. :r

Hawks have won 4 in a row, back in 4th in the Wild Wild West, and are the second hottest team in the NHL behind the Sharks. If they can learn to play 60 minutes every night like last night, they will be a threat to go far again in the postseason.

Hawks are hot but I would say 3rd or 4th hottest team. Definitely 2nd hottest in the west but NJ is definitely hotter. They are like 19-2-2 in their last 23 and Boston is also right up there with the Hawks in terms of hot teams. I'm a sharks fan but it's nice seeing a team like NJ making a huge push at the end of what looked like a miserable season.

Ahbroody 03-05-2011 01:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1194313)
Mike, you call out the Wings fans for making excuses for their loss, then make excuses why the Sharks lost .
n.

Guess the joke didnt come through. I was poking at how many excuses there were and trying to show you can find something in any loss to use as a crutch. The "Since were throwing out excuses" line I started it off with. Guess I should have put crappy in there.

Christos I agree regular season and post season 2 different worlds. Guys grip sticks a lot harder. Thats one of the benefits the wings have. Its not new and nobody panics.

But I just think Babcock was trying to protect his sophmore goalie who was eliminated by the Sharks in the playoffs last year and had thr potential of losing three in a row to them heading in to the post season. If you dont think that played a factor I dont know what to say. You dont want him facing them having lost three straight in his head after getting eliminated by them last year in the playoffs.

icehog3 03-05-2011 02:32 PM

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John, I agree the Devils are playing some great hockey. Boston and Toronto too...I guess I should have said "hottest in the last 10". :tu

Mike, we will have to agree to disagree (or maybe both agree that we can't see in Babcock's head) about the decision to start Joey Mac. But I have a hard time believing the "protecting Howard" theory. JMHO. :)

Ahbroody 03-05-2011 02:46 PM

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Hahhaahhha
I just trying to poke at them.

Quote of the day from micah after playing ice, then roller then shooting pucks in the garage. "My hands smell like barf" :r he needs one of those smelly mitts shirts.

Edit for nhl content.
Sharks have a chance to pull within one point of the Wings tonight if they can beat the stars and wings get beat by the yotes. Can the Hawks and Sharks continue the race up the standings?

icehog3 03-05-2011 02:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1194578)
Hahhaahhha
I just trying to poke at them.

Quote of the day from micah after playing ice, then roller then shooting pucks in the garage. "My hands smell like barf" :r he needs one of those smelly mitts shirts.

Good deal! Tell Micah the idea is to get the gloves as smelly as possible. Makes the "face washes" that much more special. :r

icehog3 03-05-2011 06:52 PM

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Hawks are spanking the Leafs 5-1 after 2. :)

Bruins Fan 03-05-2011 08:20 PM

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B's lose in OT a couple of mistakes cost them, good game.

icehog3 03-05-2011 08:27 PM

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Hawks win their 8th in a row, and remain one of the hottest teams in the NHL in the last 12 games. ;)

icehog3 03-05-2011 09:19 PM

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Bobby Luo got his 300 NHL win tonight.

Antti Niemi has 52.

Who do you think is happier?

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a.../niemicup2.jpg

jerseyjay 03-05-2011 09:31 PM

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NJ Devils have a great momentum. If they get into top 8, it will be hard to stop them. And all it took was to bring back Jacques !

Ahbroody 03-05-2011 10:52 PM

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Crap! Not looking good.

kugie 03-05-2011 10:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 1194973)
B's lose in OT a couple of mistakes cost them, good game.

It was a good game tonight, The Pens came out like they had nothing to lose.
Tough loss.
Philly lost tonight The B's could have made good ground on first in the East.

Prefy 03-05-2011 11:13 PM

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Corey Crawford better watch out or he may just find himself winning the Calder trophy.

26 "W"s on the season, 8 in a row and some pretty impressive numbers.

Hogs could definitely use some reliable goal-tending.

Ahbroody 03-05-2011 11:24 PM

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Damn Dallas was the hungrier team tonight, sharks fail to even get a point and gave up a 3rd period lead :td Nemo played okay. Stars have had the Sharks number all season. Stars Played a good road game. Sharks PP was bad even giving up a shorty and dallas had a few additional chances on the pk.

These last few weeks will be exciting.

E.J. 03-06-2011 09:00 AM

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Well, there's always 2011-12..... Can't keep a beach ball out of the back of the net at this point.

GO AVS!

GreekGodX 03-06-2011 09:37 AM

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Wings blew the game last night with a 4-1 lead going into the 3rd. Phoenix tied it up with less than 2 minutes to go, and won in the shootout. Very frustrating after the Wings played a good 2 periods. Stupid turnovers and the Wings just got outplayed in the 3rd. I'm hoping they can get on a hot streak before the playoffs start.

357 03-07-2011 10:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 1195538)
Wings blew the game last night with a 4-1 lead going into the 3rd. Phoenix tied it up with less than 2 minutes to go, and won in the shootout. Very frustrating after the Wings played a good 2 periods. Stupid turnovers and the Wings just got outplayed in the 3rd. I'm hoping they can get on a hot streak before the playoffs start.

I didn't see it, but I heard Babcock was mighty pissed off. I have a feeling the Wings will be playing their best when the regular season is over. I don't think seeding is a #1 priority for them. Being healthy and playing well when the season ends/playoffs start is probably more important.

gravelman 03-07-2011 08:50 PM

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Tonights Caps Lightning game was fun to watch...I love watchin Ovie but do not always get the opportunity since my TV provider wishes me not too a lot. Great paced game, now watching the Blues vs. Jackets. High scoring and some great saves by both goalies. Kind of cool too to see before the game the number 7's of St. Louis being honored.

Bruins Fan 03-08-2011 07:05 AM

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I'm getting the popcorn ready. Tonight's Bruins Canadiens game should be a barn burner.
Last game the Bruins beat Canadiens and beat them up.
The Montreal press really did a number on the Habs calling their manhood in question, I'd be willing to bet the gloves will be off at the opening faceoff :sl

gravelman 03-08-2011 03:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 1198027)
I'm getting the popcorn ready. Tonight's Bruins Canadiens game should be a barn burner.
Last game the Bruins beat Canadiens and beat them up.
The Montreal press really did a number on the Habs calling their manhood in question, I'd be willing to bet the gloves will be off at the opening faceoff :sl

I can't wait to watch this one tonight, going to be a great game!! So glad I have nothing else to do tonight.

icehog3 03-08-2011 03:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 1198027)
I'm getting the popcorn ready. Tonight's Bruins Canadiens game should be a barn burner.
Last game the Bruins beat Canadiens and beat them up.
The Montreal press really did a number on the Habs calling their manhood in question, I'd be willing to bet the gloves will be off at the opening faceoff :sl

Well, except Tim Thomas :r

Bruins Fan 03-08-2011 04:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1198775)
Well, except Tim Thomas :r

When goalies fight it like girls fighting with purses :r

Bruins Fan 03-08-2011 04:40 PM

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It will be interesting to see if the habs bring up a few goons for this one?
The habs are like soccer players,hit them and they flop looking for the penalty:td

Ahbroody 03-08-2011 05:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 1198862)
When goalies fight it like girls fighting with purses :r

Tell that to Ray Emery, Roy, etc. There are some bad ass goalies out there who could whoop the crap out of plenty of players.
As for saying any professional hockey player flops like a soccer player, uhhhh I know Bruins fans hate Habs and the reverse, but soccer players?

icehog3 03-08-2011 08:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 1198862)
When goalies fight it like girls fighting with purses :r

Brent "Joey Kocur" Johnson? :r

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deEKLFUoNHY

Hawks looked like the Harlem Globetrotters in periods 2 and 3 versus the Panthers tonight. Too bad they took period 1 off. :td

Eleven 03-08-2011 08:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 1198893)
It will be interesting to see if the habs bring up a few goons for this one?
The habs are like soccer players,hit them and they flop looking for the penalty:td

I know you made this post way before Chara decided to goon it up and almost kill a guy. I just hope Pacioretty isn't seriously injured, or worse.

If Chara plays another regular season game this year there is no justice.

icehog3 03-08-2011 08:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleven (Post 1199171)
I know you made this post way before Chara decided to goon it up and almost kill a guy. I just hope Pacioretty isn't seriously injured, or worse.

If Chara plays another regular season game this year there is no justice.

Gotta catch the lowlights on NHL Network.

kazzaca 03-08-2011 08:42 PM

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I don't know...the play was horrible but I doubt it was intentional. Chara is a tough player but he's not dirty.

They're saying Pacioretty is conscious and moving all his extremities, hopefully he can recover and continue his career.

icehog3 03-08-2011 08:47 PM

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6195439

Bruins Fan 03-08-2011 08:49 PM

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Not what we expected,but in a way it is, the team is up and down you never know what team is going to show up?
The power play is killing us, another 0 fer we just don't have THAT GUY that can take over a game.
I'm glad Pacioretty is OK after that hit by Chara that was scary.

Eleven 03-08-2011 08:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kazzaca (Post 1199183)
I don't know...the play was horrible but I doubt it was intentional. Chara is a tough player but he's not dirty.

They're saying Pacioretty is conscious and moving all his extremities, hopefully he can recover and continue his career.

Take a look back at the last few times these 2 teams played each other. Chara targeted Pacioretty in those as well. The last game was a slug fest of fights. Chara is not a dumb player who is unaware of what is going on. He knew exactly what he was doing.

E.J. 03-08-2011 08:56 PM

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The Chara hit....

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl-331549


Avs let in another 5 tonight.... Ugh...

gravelman 03-08-2011 09:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleven (Post 1199195)
Take a look back at the last few times these 2 teams played each other. Chara targeted Pacioretty in those as well. The last game was a slug fest of fights. Chara is not a dumb player who is unaware of what is going on. He knew exactly what he was doing.


I do not believe that it was his intent to cause injury like that. He was finishing his check, it just so happened that there was a partition there and the outcome was not good at all. It would be different if Chara was a dirty player, and I do understand the rivalry between the two, but it is not of his character to do something like that to purposely take a guy out.

Ahbroody 03-09-2011 01:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleven (Post 1199171)

If Chara plays another regular season game this year there is no justice.

Given your defense of Cooke the dirtiest player in the game who is a many time repeat offender and who the league changed the rules of the game over his hits. A hit he was not suspended for. Thats a very high tightrope you are walking and it might not be to long before the shoe is on the other foot.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/nhlwr...case-file.html


Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleven (Post 1199195)
Take a look back at the last few times these 2 teams played each other. Chara targeted Pacioretty in those as well. The last game was a slug fest of fights. Chara is not a dumb player who is unaware of what is going on. He knew exactly what he was doing.

This I do agree with. There is a history and I believe without a doubt he intended to injure Pacioretty. He pushes him into the corner with his left arm forcing him into the stansion. He knew he was going to hit it. I dont know if he thought it would end so badly, but he knew he was going to get hurt. He didnt have to push him with his left arm into the corner and he did.

This Clip of the end of the Jan 8th game where Pacioretty scores the winner and taps Chara on the back. They had been going at it. Chara looses his mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Me9YN9VnS0

There is a history Chara wanted revenge. Chara got his revenge and as noted this could have ended this kids carrer or much worse. I agree this is deserving of a very long suspension. Given the leagues history of fail and Charas star power I doubt it will be to long. Gillies got 10 games and this was a much more dangerous hit with much worse intentions.

Ahbroody 03-09-2011 01:52 AM

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Sharks were lucky to win tonight. How they escaped the 1st tied one to one is a mystery. The second was a push but at times they seemed to not even be able to get out of their own zone. Third they controled the game and the play, but had some horrible break downs forcing Nemo to make some big saves. The OT was ugly on bth sides till Marleau got his 3rd OT game winning goal of the season.

The Refing was horrid, it was bad both ways. They called crap calls and let obvious stuff go. Took my son to the game and had a hard time not dropping F bombs. :r

Bruins Fan 03-09-2011 03:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gravelman (Post 1199209)
I do not believe that it was his intent to cause injury like that. He was finishing his check, it just so happened that there was a partition there and the outcome was not good at all. It would be different if Chara was a dirty player, and I do understand the rivalry between the two, but it is not of his character to do something like that to purposely take a guy out.

Exactly, guys are playing full speed,that wasn't even much of a hit.
If the NHL wants to protect players make the stanchion areas safer, Oh but that might cost a few premium seats.
If Chara gets suspended it will be a joke.

kugie 03-09-2011 06:53 AM

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That game Stunk last night. The Habs took it to the B's and all they could do was get chippy at the end.
Inconsistent at best right now and they still need to find themselves.

No Power play points, no fire except for the first ten min of the game (if that).
they better get their heads out of their A$$es.
I don't care if they loose (don't get me wrong I like it better when they win)
but put some effort into the game not just the beginning the Whole Game.

I'm Glad Pacioretty is doing better.

I don't think the Intent was there but Chara may still get a couple of games suspension.:2

Go Bruins:tu

Eleven 03-09-2011 07:33 AM

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Saying the words "Matt Cooke" does not negate the argument for Chara being suspended.

357 03-09-2011 08:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1198929)
Tell that to Ray Emery, Roy, etc. There are some bad ass goalies out there who could whoop the crap out of plenty of players.
As for saying any professional hockey player flops like a soccer player, uhhhh I know Bruins fans hate Habs and the reverse, but soccer players?

Did I read that right? Roy as a good fighting goalie?

Vernon and Osgood both got the better of him. Did he go around whipping some other goalie butt? I'm guessing he wasn't in that many fights, and the only two I know of he didn't do well.


Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1199139)
Brent "Joey Kocur" Johnson? :r

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deEKLFUoNHY

Hawks looked like the Harlem Globetrotters in periods 2 and 3 versus the Panthers tonight. Too bad they took period 1 off. :td

I love the comment on Youtube...
Quote:

what a save! He totally stopped his fist with his face. You just can't get one by DiPietro!"

Ahbroody 03-09-2011 10:00 AM

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I should probably stop stirring the pot, but its just so much fun.

People who dont think the intent was there? LOL

He shoved him in to the stanchion with his left arm. The video dont lie. These two teams hate each other. He went after Him in a previous game, again the video dont lie. I guess everyone Bruins fan who doesnt think this was a very dangerous and dirty play to have no issue with the Cooke Savard hit. I think most would argue the Chara hit was more dangerous with every bit of the intent. He extends his arm forcing him into the glass. Hes a veteran of the league and knew what he was doing. Cooke was just finishing his check on Savard as the Boston announcer said. After all Savard had the puck closer to the hit by Cooke then Pacioretty did.

Scott I never said it would negate it. I would like to see Chara suspended and said that. My point was to be careful given previous support as it could be seen as contradictory calling for such a long suspension now. Especially when its the Bruins which is a rival and the history with past incidents. The next Cooke incident cant be to far off after all. Dont want to look like Mario talking about a team gooning it up while your team was leading the league in goon behavior of fighting with a player suspended for a dirty hit.

Eleven 03-09-2011 10:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 1199694)
The next Cooke incident cant be to far off after all.

Matt Cooke is a changed man. He will win the Lady Bing next year, just watch!

:xxx


(EDIT) Seeing if this .gif works...crime of the century!

http://i54.tinypic.com/1zogil2.gif

Ahbroody 03-09-2011 10:17 AM

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:r
That deserved a bump. I actually did LOL on that one.

Bruins Fan 03-09-2011 01:16 PM

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That's bull crap it was a good hockey hit, the rink is the rink.
Blame the NHL for having an unsafe work place.
Hockey is a fast moving hard hitting game, that's what puts asses in the seats

kugie 03-09-2011 01:32 PM

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I don't think the intent was there:2
Matt Cooke is a scumbag dirty player.
If you think that Chara is that as well, then that's ok.
The League does not think it needs any further discipline.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=555520

gravelman 03-09-2011 01:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 1199919)
That's bull crap it was a good hockey hit, the rink is the rink.
Blame the NHL for having an unsafe work place.
Hockey is a fast moving hard hitting game, that's what puts asses in the seats

If it would have happened on the other side of the rink he would have ran into the glass, fallen over and gotten back up, same with in a corner or on either end. If it was 10 feet previous he would have been halfway over the benches boards and back on his feet in seconds, it just happened at an unfortunate spot on the rink and where the stantion lies...

Bruins Fan 03-09-2011 02:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kugie (Post 1199948)
I don't think the intent was there:2
Matt Cooke is a scumbag dirty player.
If you think that Chara is that as well, then that's ok.
The League does not think it needs any further discipline.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=555520

End of story:tu

Ahbroody 03-09-2011 02:36 PM

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Oooooooooooo the hypocrisy of it all.
While I hate Cooke if he did that to a member of the Bruins some of you would be calling for him to be kicked out of the league. I could see the posts now. :r

Once again stars are treated different and now I am glad the league didnt suspend Cooke for smoking Savard. He was just finishing his check after all. Atleast the league is being consistently inconsistent. The trick is to make it look like your not trying to injure the guy apparently.

The worse thing about this is that the habs will now take it upon themselves to get justice. I cant wait for the league to warn the teams. Atleast when Mclaren rearranged Koivus face the league did something.

icehog3 03-09-2011 02:37 PM

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To everyone who says they know what Chara's intent was...you don't. ;)

I have no dog in this fight, but I do know that mindreading is for gypsies. To anyone who plays the game as an adult on any level, rubbing someone out on the boards at full speed does not give you a lot of time to decide "I am going to run this guy into the stanchion"....just happens too fast. But if you wanna believe that Chara planned it out that way, have at it. I agree with what Murphy decided, as a "hockey in-general" fan.
No offense meant to those who feel differently.


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