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rizzle 12-01-2009 10:37 AM

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I'm not like a beer connoisseur by any means and I typically stay in the liquor and wine realms, but for some reason I decided to pick up a couple 750's of Chimay Grande Reserve a while back. Wow. Just unbelievable. How have I missed this all these years? Now every time I'm in the liquor store I grab at least one.

If I love the taste of that, what else might some of you guys suggest? Any of the other Trappist ales compare tastewise?

kaisersozei 12-01-2009 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 663765)
I'm not like a beer connoisseur by any means and I typically stay in the liquor and wine realms, but for some reason I decided to pick up a couple 750's of Chimay Grande Reserve a while back. Wow. Just unbelievable. How have I missed this all these years? Now every time I'm in the liquor store I grab at least one.

If I love the taste of that, what else might some of you guys suggest? Any of the other Trappist ales compare tastewise?

It's been a long time since I've had a Chimay, but I recall it being very good. I'll let others who are more familiar with Trappist styles chime in on suggestions for you. I've had Ommegang, Delirium, Duvel and Three Philosophers. All were great, not sure how similar they are to Chimay--I think they are different styles.

Here's a British stout I tried this weekend:

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...Lumpofcoal.jpg

A bit thin & dry for my tastes in stouts.

hornitosmonster 12-01-2009 07:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 663765)
I'm not like a beer connoisseur by any means and I typically stay in the liquor and wine realms, but for some reason I decided to pick up a couple 750's of Chimay Grande Reserve a while back. Wow. Just unbelievable. How have I missed this all these years? Now every time I'm in the liquor store I grab at least one.

If I love the taste of that, what else might some of you guys suggest? Any of the other Trappist ales compare tastewise?

Chimay Grande Reserve is a very good beer. I also recommend picking up some Rochefort 6, 8, or 10.

The Holy Grail of this style is Westvleteren 12 (not available in the states, but then again, neither are Cuban Cigars)

My Bevmo sells Magnums of Chimay Grande Reserve, thinking about picking one up for New Years Eve.

BlackDog 12-01-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 663765)
If I love the taste of that, what else might some of you guys suggest? Any of the other Trappist ales compare tastewise?

Rizzle, here are a couple links that list other similar beers. The first link is for beers like your Chimay Grand Reserve, normally referred to as "triples." The second link is for very similar, but slightly lighter Belgian ales, normally called "dubbles."

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/style/56

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/style/57

I would also suggest that you check out some of the gift packs available this time of year in better beer/liquor stores. Ommegang has a holiday gift pack of 3 Belgian-style ales (750ml), plus a flute, for about $25. This is a good value and excellent beer. Unibroue also has a 4 pack, one each of their 4 best selling beers (330ml), for about $10.

Definitely try the Rochefort 8, it's a real treat.

Sauer Grapes 12-01-2009 08:55 PM

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Furious again... thanks to... you know who you are...

BlackDog 12-01-2009 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 664811)
Furious again... thanks to... you know who you are...

I had some tonight too. Love that pine & grapefruit flavor. :tu

rizzle 12-02-2009 08:43 AM

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Awesome. Thanks guys. :tu

kaisersozei 12-02-2009 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackDog (Post 649562)
Arrange a trade with a west coast brother. They can't buy DFH, Great Lakes, or Southern Tier out there.

Ok, I finally decided to make this offer:

I'm interested in making a sticks-for-sticks cigar trade with a SoCal inmate. I plan to add a 4 pack of Dogfish Head brews (Punkin Ale, 60 Minute IPA, 90 Minute IPA and a Burton Baton) as tag-alongs. It would be really really really great if this SoCal inmate would add a few Russian River Brewery beers--most interested in Pliny the Elder (maybe even Pliny the Younger & Blind Pig)--as "tag-alongs" in their end of the trade. ;)

If you're interested, send me a PM. :al

hornitosmonster 12-02-2009 07:19 PM

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Today I picked up

1 Bomber of Life and Limb
1 Bomber of Sublimely Self-Righteous Ale
1 Bomber of Union Jack India Pale Ale

BlackDog 12-02-2009 08:50 PM

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Drank a Sam Smith's Nut Brown Ale earlier. Now drinking a Corsendonk Christmas Ale.

awsmith4 12-02-2009 10:10 PM

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Tonight I had a few of Duck Rabbit Brewery's seasonal brew the Baltic Porter. They were fantastic and if you are a fan of Stouts and Porters I would give this beer a try.

MikeyC 12-03-2009 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kaisersozei (Post 665456)
Ok, I finally decided to make this offer:

I'm interested in making a sticks-for-sticks cigar trade with a SoCal inmate. I plan to add a 4 pack of Dogfish Head brews (Punkin Ale, 60 Minute IPA, 90 Minute IPA and a Burton Baton) as tag-alongs. It would be really really really great if this SoCal inmate would add a few Russian River Brewery beers--most interested in Pliny the Elder (maybe even Pliny the Younger & Blind Pig)--as "tag-alongs" in their end of the trade. ;)

If you're interested, send me a PM. :al

Just be careful shipping alcohol. I once sent some t-shirts to someone via USPS using an empty case as the shipping box. There was no alcohol in it what so ever and USPS returned it to me saying they won't ship alcohol. I understand FedEx ships alcohol but I'm not sure if the rate is higher than standard FedEx rates. Also, I think you need to fill out an additional shipping form.

BlackDog 12-03-2009 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeyC (Post 666596)
I understand FedEx ships alcohol but I'm not sure if the rate is higher than standard FedEx rates. Also, I think you need to fill out an additional shipping form.

FedEx rates are based upon weight. Shipping alcohol is no more expensive than shipping anything else of the same weight. And there are no extra forms required. They don't even ask what's in the box.

Sauer Grapes 12-03-2009 06:06 PM

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Shipping Alcohol is illegal by USPS (I think in pretty much all cases).

If you use UPS or FedEx, you are just dealing with state laws and company rules, the latter of which aren't law so there is no punishment for not mentioning what's in the box if they don't ask other than you can't make an insurance claim.

Make sure your state allows you to receive beer or wine or both. The Kaiser is in luck since VA does as far as I know.

BlackDog 12-03-2009 08:25 PM

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Drank a Victory Prima Pils earlier, drinking a Sierra Nevada Celebration now.

jbrookeiv 12-04-2009 01:41 AM

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Here's what I picked up while I was home in Atlanta for my wedding.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2568/...06a2e3d1_b.jpg

kaisersozei 12-04-2009 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 667251)
Shipping Alcohol is illegal by USPS (I think in pretty much all cases).

If you use UPS or FedEx, you are just dealing with state laws and company rules, the latter of which aren't law so there is no punishment for not mentioning what's in the box if they don't ask other than you can't make an insurance claim.

Make sure your state allows you to receive beer or wine or both. The Kaiser is in luck since VA does as far as I know.

Yep, never had any problems shipping or receiving beer, just gotta make sure it's packed up very well. Homebrew competitions recommend putting "yeast samples for analysis" on the box--kind of creative. All kinds of contraband ;) comes by way of USPS, if you're willing to take the risk. I had a buddy once who had pot mailed to him. He was insane.

This discussion is moot anyway--no one seems to want my offer. :(

Ah well, I'll get my hands on some Pliny the Elder somehow.

Sauer Grapes 12-04-2009 10:46 AM

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You should see if a botl out west would pick it up for you and pack it and drop it off if you pay for everything. Thing is, Pliny is expensive before shipping, like $4-$6 per bottle. The bottles aren't even 22 oz. bombers either, they are like 16.9 oz. or something like that.

It is pretty darn good though.

BlackDog 12-04-2009 06:20 PM

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Drinking my last bomber of Sam Adams Octoberfest.

MikeyC 12-04-2009 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 667966)
You should see if a botl out west would pick it up for you and pack it and drop it off if you pay for everything. Thing is, Pliny is expensive before shipping, like $4-$6 per bottle. The bottles aren't even 22 oz. bombers either, they are like 16.9 oz. or something like that.

It is pretty darn good though.

I had some Pliny at the Great American Beer Festival in Denver a couple months ago. It was pretty good. I can't say it was good enough to pay to have it shipped across the country though. There are plenty of brews available on the east coast that are just as good.

Speaking of expensive beer, I was in the store the other day and came across some Dogfish 120 minute. They wanted $9.99 PER BOTTLE. We're not talking about a bomber here either just a regular size bottle that would be in any 6 pack.

BlackDog 12-04-2009 06:37 PM

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You guys need to try Tyranena Hop Whore if it is available in your area. I was blown away. It is super good. Like drinking red ruby grapefruit juice.

Sauer Grapes 12-04-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeyC (Post 668438)
I had some Pliny at the Great American Beer Festival in Denver a couple months ago. It was pretty good. I can't say it was good enough to pay to have it shipped across the country though. There are plenty of brews available on the east coast that are just as good.

Speaking of expensive beer, I was in the store the other day and came across some Dogfish 120 minute. They wanted $9.99 PER BOTTLE. We're not talking about a bomber here either just a regular size bottle that would be in any 6 pack.

Yep. Unfortunately, that is the going rate. Of course, I buy it as an occasional treat. Keep in mind, it is 20% abv, so look at t more as a wine, especially since that 12 oz. bottle has about the same amount of total alcohol as a bottle of wine.

I know you won't agree with this, but I actually think 120 Minute is a better value than Utopias.

Bubba - NJ 12-04-2009 07:46 PM

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I just enjoyed the hell out of a Samuel Smiths Taddy Porter ! Gonna get some more tomorrow and maybe a bottle of the Angry Elf I read about today . :tu

ChicagoWhiteSox 12-04-2009 08:21 PM

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Goose Island Honkers Ale tonight. Nothing special, but I enjoy it a lot. It has a really good balance of hops and malt.

BlackDog 12-04-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 668573)
Goose Island Honkers Ale tonight. Nothing special, but I enjoy it a lot. It has a really good balance of hops and malt.

One of my favorites. :tu

MikeyC 12-05-2009 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 668490)
Yep. Unfortunately, that is the going rate. Of course, I buy it as an occasional treat. Keep in mind, it is 20% abv, so look at t more as a wine, especially since that 12 oz. bottle has about the same amount of total alcohol as a bottle of wine.

I know you won't agree with this, but I actually think 120 Minute is a better value than Utopias.

Sure Utopias will be 27.5% ABV this year, but math makes me want to agree with you:

120 Minute: $0.63/oz.
Utopias: $4.81/oz. (if you're lucky enough to find it at MSRP)

They're TOTALLY different beers and while about 40% more alcohol doesn't justify such a large price increase Utopias does contain a lot of expensive ingredients, it's very labor intensive to produce, it comes in a really fancy bottle, and it's very limited edition. In the end, I think Utopias is worth every penny.

If 120 came in a nicer bottle or if they added more mystique around it by making it more limited edition I might be inclined to pay a higher price for it. Honestly, I think the thing that makes most people baulk at the price is the packaging. If they even put it in a bomber people would probably be more willing to pay an upcharge. Personally, I would pay $15-$20 for a bomber of 120.

BlackDog 12-05-2009 09:55 AM

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It's just perception. We drink what's inside the bottle. But I understand your point. For a "super premium" beer, they should make it look like it's super premium.

Bubba - NJ 12-05-2009 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubba - NJ (Post 668535)
I just enjoyed the hell out of a Samuel Smiths Taddy Porter ! Gonna get some more tomorrow and maybe a bottle of the Angry Elf I read about today . :tu

Check that . It's Mad Elf from Troeggs . ;s

BlackDog 12-05-2009 04:16 PM

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I'm drinking a Furthermore Knot Stock. It's basically an IPA that was brewed with the addition of peppercorns. It makes for an interesting twist.

replicant_argent 12-05-2009 05:54 PM

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A nice very tall Surly Bender on tap at a restaurant that is new to my wife and I for her birthday.
The beer and the joint were both quite acceptable.

BlackDog 12-05-2009 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by replicant_argent (Post 669633)
A nice very tall Surly Bender on tap at a restaurant that is new to my wife and I for her birthday.
The beer and the joint were both quite acceptable.

Where at?

BlackDog 12-05-2009 06:12 PM

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I'm drinking a Great Lakes Edmind Fitzgerald porter. We can't get this in MN, but I made a trade with my nephew in Ohio, Surly for Great Lakes. This is an outstanding porter, especially once it warms up a little bit.

replicant_argent 12-05-2009 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackDog (Post 669645)
Where at?

bah, lost my first response.
http://www.tboxbarandgrill.com/
A couple Summits on tap, a Bells brew of some type, Surly Bender, Drop Top Amber from widmer, and only one macro.
Owned by the same people as Tournament Liquor, who have at least a couple stores in the north part of town, and from the one by me, have transferred their love of micros to the restaurant. It looks like they have a boatload of other micros and imports available. A tall Surly was 7 bucks, but it looks like they have a happy hour from 2-5 and from 9-11 pm where taps are half price. That is a good sign, in my book.

BigFrank 12-05-2009 07:48 PM

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Sierra Nevada Pale Ale tonight. Might drink another brew, not sure.

BlackDog 12-05-2009 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by replicant_argent (Post 669685)
bah, lost my first response.
http://www.tboxbarandgrill.com/

Thanks for that, but too far for me. I'm way out in the western suburbs. But, in your honor I cracked open a Bender too. :tu

MikeyC 12-05-2009 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackDog (Post 669113)
It's just perception. We drink what's inside the bottle. But I understand your point. For a "super premium" beer, they should make it look like it's super premium.

Perception is reality my friend. ;)

They could be selling the absolute best beer in the world in that bottle but if you charge a premium price for it people will be more willing to pay it if it's in premium packaging.

BigFrank 12-06-2009 03:22 PM

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Had a 24oz Sierra Nevada Harvest earlier. Next trip to the store I'm getting a few of these to stash since they are a seasonal brew. I HIGHLY recommend picking some up. I really enjoyed it.
Just started drinking a Hoptimus Prime from Legacy. For a "double IPA" it's not as strong as I thought for 9% ABV. It's not my favorite so far, giving that to Stone's IPA, but for the price 4.99 for a 24oz I'm not going to complain much.

BlackDog 12-06-2009 04:28 PM

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I am drinking my flrst Lagunitas Hop Stupid. Lovely beer. Oily and sticky; plenty of hops offering up grapefruit and pine flavors and aromas. I really thought that at 102 IBU's this would be a much more bitter beer, but rather it is well balanced. IMO Lagunitas can do no wrong, especially at their price point.

hornitosmonster 12-07-2009 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackDog (Post 670528)
I am drinking my flrst Lagunitas Hop Stupid. Lovely beer. Oily and sticky; plenty of hops offering up grapefruit and pine flavors and aromas. I really thought that at 102 IBU's this would be a much more bitter beer, but rather it is well balanced. IMO Lagunitas can do no wrong, especially at their price point.

had one last night as well. Very good beer. Lagunitas is quickly becoming my favorite brewer.

Sauer Grapes 12-07-2009 01:00 PM

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I agree hop stoopid is great, but I remain unconvinced that they are above average overall. What other beers of theirs should I try to change my mind?

coach 12-07-2009 01:12 PM

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sorry not a fan of IPA's....might as well just suck on a WARM GRAPEFRUIT...IMO...lol

you guys drink my share please.

BlackDog 12-07-2009 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 671491)
What other beers of theirs should I try to change my mind?

I have enjoyed their IPA, Brown Shugga, Little Sumptin' Extra, and have a bottle of Old Gnarlywine waiting for me to drink it.

kaisersozei 12-07-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 671491)
I agree hop stoopid is great, but I remain unconvinced that they are above average overall. What other beers of theirs should I try to change my mind?

I didn't care for the hop overload in Hop Stoopid, it didn't seem balanced very well. Don't get me wrong, I'm a hophead, but in the style (100+ IBUs) I prefer Stone Ruination & Harpoon Leviathan to this beer.

Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of Lagunitas. I haven't found any of their beers that I've bought more than one six pack.

Just :2, I'm glad that other folks are enjoying their brews!

Skywalker 12-07-2009 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackDog (Post 671513)
I have enjoyed their IPA, Brown Shugga, Little Sumptin' Extra, and have a bottle of Old Gnarlywine waiting for me to drink it.

Glad you like it... But Brown Shugga makes me :pu

BlackDog 12-07-2009 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker (Post 671673)
Glad you like it... But Brown Shugga makes me :pu

If I didn't already know you live within the shadow of the Sierra Nevada plant, I'd have to make fun of you for putting little umbrellas in your wine coolers. :ss

Wanger 12-07-2009 05:01 PM

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Literally just cracked a New Belgium 2 Below. :)

hornitosmonster 12-07-2009 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes (Post 671491)
I agree hop stoopid is great, but I remain unconvinced that they are above average overall. What other beers of theirs should I try to change my mind?

Lucky 13, but you probably can't find it right now.


Lagunitas Lucky 13 Mondo Large Red Ale

replicant_argent 12-07-2009 06:49 PM

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this is probably the place to come out of the closet...


Hi,
My name is Pete, and I am a Hop-Whore....

ChicagoWhiteSox 12-07-2009 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by replicant_argent (Post 671882)
this is probably the place to come out of the closet...


Hi,
My name is Pete, and I am a Hop-Whore....

Hi Pete, welcome to the group:D

BlackDog 12-07-2009 09:29 PM

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Drank a Lagunitas Headless Man ale earlier. It was ok, but that's about all I can say for it.
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