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elderboy02 08-30-2010 07:33 PM
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Ondrusek sucked at the beginning of the year, but now he is very sharp
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elderboy02 08-30-2010 08:50 PM
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Reds win! Reds win! :banger Cards lose to Houston :banger 6 games up :banger

HELL YEAH!!!!!

chippewastud79 08-30-2010 09:29 PM
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This weak sauce schedule is paying off well now. Although it won't benefit us in the series with whomever we lose to in the first round. :hm

icehog3 08-30-2010 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 971942)
This weak sauce schedule is paying off well now. Although it won't benefit us in the series with whomever we lose to in the first round. :hm
;)

chippewastud79 08-30-2010 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 971943)
;)
It is definitely nice that no one but Cleveland (who happened to be some of our interleague games, even though they are garbage) considers us a 'rival'. No one gets up to play the Reds and it shows. Thats the advantage of not having success in a decade, weak schedule and no one gunning for you, particularly this late in the season. None of these teams are worried about raining on our parade. :rolleyes:

icehog3 08-30-2010 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 971951)
It is definitely nice that no one but Cleveland (who happened to be some of our interleague games, even though they are garbage) considers us a 'rival'. No one gets up to play the Reds and it shows. Thats the advantage of not having success in a decade, weak schedule and no one gunning for you, particularly this late in the season. None of these teams are worried about raining on our parade. :rolleyes:
Even if they are worried about it, no one is doing it....looks like the Reds might have the Cards down and out.

elderboy02 08-31-2010 04:45 AM
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Glad to see that Mr. Negativity decided to post :rolleyes: It must be killing you to see the Reds doing good since you haven't posted in a while.

The Cuban Missile has launched :banger

105MPH! Lets see Poo-holes try and hit that.

Starscream 08-31-2010 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 971942)
This weak sauce schedule is paying off well now. Although it won't benefit us in the series with whomever we lose to in the first round. :hm
I hate it but I agree w/ you. We can't take out teams like St. Louis and San Francisco, so it's not looking good about progressing in the playoffs.

chippewastud79 08-31-2010 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 972229)
Glad to see that Mr. Negativity decided to post :rolleyes: It must be killing you to see the Reds doing good since you haven't posted in a while.

The Cuban Missile has launched :banger

105MPH! Lets see Poo-holes try and hit that.
Oh, I'm sorry Dan. Did someone interupt your "Reds win" posts with actual sports discussion? I have been posting sports discussion all along, but you must have missed it. Maybe because you skip all the posts with actual talk about the team or because when they lose you ignore the thread all together. :hm

And as far as the 'Cuban Missle' is concerned, I would like to see him place that 105 MPH heater in a spot not 2 feet out of the zone. I have a feeling that throwing 100+ will have far less of an affect on the MLB than AAA. Also, they better be careful not to burn him out. Last guy I watched throw 100+ (Zumaya) was decent for a year and now can't seem to stay healthy. Or a very recent example of Strausburg, I know they want him to be the starter of the future but having him throw multiple 100 MPH pitches are going to burn him out faster than his fastball. :2

chippewastud79 08-31-2010 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 971959)
Even if they are worried about it, no one is doing it....looks like the Reds might have the Cards down and out.
The teams who are long gone from the race (see all of the NL Central), don't bother to try to shake up the race anymore. They all gun for the Cardinals, because they are the big dog of recent memory and let the Reds go on their merry way. Its working out well for us, but its not making us a better team. ;)

elderboy02 08-31-2010 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 972508)
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And as far as the 'Cuban Missle' is concerned, I would like to see him place that 105 MPH heater in a spot not 2 feet out of the zone. I have a feeling that throwing 100+ will have far less of an affect on the MLB than AAA. Also, they better be careful not to burn him out. Last guy I watched throw 100+ (Zumaya) was decent for a year and now can't seem to stay healthy. Or a very recent example of Strausburg, I know they want him to be the starter of the future but having him throw multiple 100 MPH pitches are going to burn him out faster than his fastball. :2
I agree that the Reds have to be careful to not over-use him. I heard his control is better, so we will just have to see :tu

icehog3 08-31-2010 10:37 AM
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Did the Reds win yet?

Starscream 08-31-2010 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 972512)
The teams who are long gone from the race (see all of the NL Central), don't bother to try to shake up the race anymore. They all gun for the Cardinals, because they are the big dog of recent memory and let the Reds go on their merry way. Its working out well for us, but its not making us a better team. ;)
I'm not so sure about that. Have you seen Houston lately? I'm a bit nervous about that series.

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 972508)
Oh, I'm sorry Dan. Did someone interupt your "Reds win" posts with actual sports discussion? I have been posting sports discussion all along, but you must have missed it. Maybe because you skip all the posts with actual talk about the team or because when they lose you ignore the thread all together. :hm

And as far as the 'Cuban Missle' is concerned, I would like to see him place that 105 MPH heater in a spot not 2 feet out of the zone. I have a feeling that throwing 100+ will have far less of an affect on the MLB than AAA. Also, they better be careful not to burn him out. Last guy I watched throw 100+ (Zumaya) was decent for a year and now can't seem to stay healthy. Or a very recent example of Strausburg, I know they want him to be the starter of the future but having him throw multiple 100 MPH pitches are going to burn him out faster than his fastball. :2
I'm with you about his arm being at risk. His location has gotten much better, but now is not the time to start risking the game on a guy who hasn't seen one inning at the major level. Valaika is just now coming in, but the entire game won't rely on him. I wish we wouldn't see Chapman until next year, but it is what it is.
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 972599)
Did the Reds win yet?
:r

Starscream 08-31-2010 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 972552)
I agree that the Reds have to be careful to not over-use him. I heard his control is better, so we will just have to see :tu
His control has gotten much better according to reports. They've also been working with him on other pitches, not just that wicked fastball. Still, I hear he relies heavily on the fastball. I hate to see him burnout like Strassburg, but throwing 100+ all the time doesn't always equal injury. Randy Johnson consistently threw 100+ for a very long time w/o too much trouble.

elderboy02 08-31-2010 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 972608)
His control has gotten much better according to reports. They've also been working with him on other pitches, not just that wicked fastball. Still, I hear he relies heavily on the fastball. I hate to see him burnout like Strassburg, but throwing 100+ all the time doesn't always equal injury. Randy Johnson consistently threw 100+ for a very long time w/o too much trouble.
I kind of knew Strasburg would have trouble. Just watching his arm in slow mo, he does all kinds of twisting that isn't natural.

chippewastud79 08-31-2010 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 972626)
I kind of knew Strasburg would have trouble. Just watching his arm in slow mo, he does all kinds of twisting that isn't natural.
Look at any pitcher in the back of their delivery and it looks un-natural.

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elderboy02 08-31-2010 08:12 PM
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Chapman is a stud! 102!
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waffle 08-31-2010 08:21 PM
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The Cuban Missile has launched ;)

smitdavi 08-31-2010 08:25 PM
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Pretty cool to watch that debut. He was throwing some strikes that's for sure.

chippewastud79 08-31-2010 08:27 PM
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Good to see we optioned Volquez today, a great return on the trade for Hamilton. :bh

Chapman is a future Hall of Famer for sure. The guy throws gas, for sure. But lets not anoint him before he has accomplished anything like all the fans do with every other prospect. :rolleyes:

elderboy02 08-31-2010 08:30 PM
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Reds win! Reds win! :banger
7 games up!!!! Adam, don't cry

chippewastud79 08-31-2010 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 973306)
Reds win! Reds win! :banger
7 games up!!!! Adam, don't cry
Why would I cry? I'm sorry that I am not just simply a homer but a realistic sports fan. I think I may have seen more Reds games this year than you, the super fan. Good news for you if you didn't have to change alliances for baseball this year, but college football is upon us, so you'll have plenty of opportunity to claim every school within a 400 mile radius as your 'favorite team' starting on Thursday based on who is winning more. :r :rolleyes:

icehog3 08-31-2010 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 973304)
Chapman is a future Hall of Famer for sure. The guy throws gas, for sure. But lets not anoint him before he has accomplished anything like all the fans do with every other prospect. :rolleyes:
Isn't calling him a "future Hall of Famerfor sure" prematurely annointing him, Adam? He has thrown all of 8 major league pitches. ;)

I remember the same "future HOFer" talk about Mark Prior. He won 42 games in 6 Major League seasons starting in 2002....he is now pitching for the Orange County Flyers of the Golden Baseball League at age 30.

elderboy02 09-01-2010 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 972599)
Did the Reds win yet?
Yes, they did.

hotreds 09-01-2010 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 973457)
Isn't calling him a "future Hall of Famerfor sure" prematurely annointing him, Adam?
Adam was just being his usual sacrcastic self when it comes to anything positive about the Redlegs.

Alas, Tom, you are correct that all too many hurlers of recent vintage sucomb to arm problems. Makes you wonder why, really, as in the old days guys threw much more and rarely injured their arms. Somewhere along the way, something went terribly wrong!

Prozac_Puros 09-01-2010 08:13 AM
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Congratulations Reds fans, I hope your guys keep playing strong in the playoffs... I'ts to late for the panic button in St. Louis... I honestly don't think the Cardinals can get to the wild card the way they can't hit

elderboy02 09-01-2010 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Prozac_Puros (Post 973770)
Congratulations Reds fans, I hope your guys keep playing strong in the playoffs... I'ts to late for the panic button in St. Louis... I honestly don't think the Cardinals can get to the wild card the way they can't hit
You can thank your GM for screwing your team. Trading away Ludwig was a bad move.

icehog3 09-01-2010 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by hotreds (Post 973751)

Alas, Tom, you are correct that all too many hurlers of recent vintage sucomb to arm problems. Makes you wonder why, really, as in the old days guys threw much more and rarely injured their arms. Somewhere along the way, something went terribly wrong!
Absolutely, Hugh, seems like there were a lot less arm injuries in the days of 4-man rotations and frequent complete games.

Sean9689 09-01-2010 08:28 AM
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I surrender, I surrender. :(

icehog3 09-01-2010 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Sean9689 (Post 973781)
I surrender, I surrender. :(
Maybe time to change your CUT to "I can hear the Cards choking @ Busch". ;) :r

elderboy02 09-01-2010 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 973778)
Absolutely, Hugh, seems like there were a lot less arm injuries in the days of 4-man rotations and frequent complete games.
One thing to consider is that back in the day there was a lot more foul territory in the stadiums, so less pitches had to be thrown. Today, the stands are right on top of the players (a good thing that allows fans to be closer to the game).

icehog3 09-01-2010 10:55 AM
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I dunno, Dan.

For instance, here's some info on my favorite ballplayer of all time, Fergie Jenkins:

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For home games, Jenkins would always pitch the marquee matchup on Fridays and would then pitch the following Tuesday. However, if the other team’s rotation shook out so that their ace was pitching on Sunday, well, Jenkins would pitch on the Sunday too – 3 times in one week.



It didn’t stop there. In Jenkins’ day, he would make 40 starts easy. Of those 40 starts, typically 75%, or 30 of them, he would complete. Because he was expected to. He wasn’t getting pulled in the 5th inning because he had pitched 2 days prior and he CERTAINLY wasn’t getting pulled from the game because he had reached the magic number of 100 pitches. Of course he was also throwing his side bullpen sessions on his off days

chippewastud79 09-01-2010 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 973457)
Isn't calling him a "future Hall of Famerfor sure" prematurely annointing him, Adam? He has thrown all of 8 major league pitches. ;)

I remember the same "future HOFer" talk about Mark Prior. He won 42 games in 6 Major League seasons starting in 2002....he is now pitching for the Orange County Flyers of the Golden Baseball League at age 30.
Hence the :rolleyes: although, there are some in this discussion who would believe that he is destined for a Cy Young within a year or two. :tu

chippewastud79 09-01-2010 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 973787)
One thing to consider is that back in the day there was a lot more foul territory in the stadiums, so less pitches had to be thrown. Today, the stands are right on top of the players (a good thing that allows fans to be closer to the game).
While this may be true, it doesn't do anything to help the argument. There were far more complete games, pitchers throwing well over 100 pitches per outing and coming back on 2 or three days rest. A teams Ace would start over 40 games every season and sometime over 50. Why do you think there hasn't been a 30 game winner in 40 years? Players now are too fragile, playing for too much money and will get put on the DL for a blister on their glove hand. Its hard for a team not to protect their investment, but the players also feel too entitled to not get their regular rest etc. etc. :2

icehog3 09-01-2010 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 974067)
While this may be true, it doesn't do anything to help the argument. There were far more complete games, pitchers throwing well over 100 pitches per outing and coming back on 2 or three days rest. A teams Ace would start over 40 games every season and sometime over 50. Why do you think there hasn't been a 30 game winner in 40 years? Players now are too fragile, playing for too much money and will get put on the DL for a blister on their glove hand. Its hard for a team not to protect their investment, but the players also feel too entitled to not get their regular rest etc. etc. :2
Kinda what I tried to suggest with the Fergie Jenkins example. :tu

chippewastud79 09-01-2010 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 974379)
Kinda what I tried to suggest with the Fergie Jenkins example. :tu
Just adding to it. Dan isn't really a sports fan, just a homer, so he may have not understood who or what you were talking about. :D

icehog3 09-01-2010 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 974404)
Just adding to it. Dan isn't really a sports fan, just a homer, so he may have not understood who or what you were talking about. :D
:r :=:

Starscream 09-01-2010 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Prozac_Puros (Post 973770)
Congratulations Reds fans, I hope your guys keep playing strong in the playoffs... I'ts to late for the panic button in St. Louis... I honestly don't think the Cardinals can get to the wild card the way they can't hit
It's not over yet. The division looks like a long shot right now, but it's not over. The wild card isn't too far away. A losing streak always looks like the end of the world.
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 974061)
Hence the :rolleyes: although, there are some in this discussion who would believe that he is destined for a Cy Young within a year or two. :tu
You mean he's not up for the CY Young this year?:confused:
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 974404)
Just adding to it. Dan isn't really a sports fan, just a homer, so he may have not understood who or what you were talking about. :D
I know Dan's a commie but that was just mean.:jd

chippewastud79 09-01-2010 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 974511)
I know Dan's a commie but that was just mean.:jd
Reds Win :banger ;)

hotreds 09-01-2010 07:51 PM
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elderboy02 09-01-2010 08:07 PM
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Reds win! Reds win! :banger 8 games up! :tu

Starscream 09-01-2010 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 974569)
Reds Win :banger ;)
:r


It's awesome to see us up 8 games on the Cards. Still not time to get comfortable yet though.

elderboy02 09-04-2010 03:23 PM
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Nice HR by Travis Wood! :banger

Starscream 09-04-2010 07:13 PM
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Well it's about damn time! BP got a hit against the Cards and we got a win against them as well!

elderboy02 09-04-2010 07:24 PM
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Reds win! Reds win! :banger

Lock it up boys, we won the division. That is my stance. Anyone want to bet against me?

icehog3 09-04-2010 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 977811)
Reds win! Reds win! :banger

Lock it up boys, we won the division. That is my stance. Anyone want to bet against me?
Really going out on a limb there, Dan. :rolleyes: :r

icehog3 09-04-2010 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 977811)
Reds win! Reds win! :banger

Lock it up boys, we won the division. That is my stance. Anyone want to bet against me?
Really going out on a limb there, Dan. :rolleyes: :r

I will bet you that the Blackhawks win the 2010 Stanley Cup.

Starscream 09-05-2010 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 977878)
Really going out on a limb there, Dan. :rolleyes: :r

I will bet you that the Blackhawks win the 2010 Stanley Cup.
:hm
I may take you up on that bet, Admiral.

icehog3 09-05-2010 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 978133)
:hm
I may take you up on that bet, Admiral.
Excellent, I will bet everything I own, Andy. :r

chippewastud79 09-05-2010 10:49 AM
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Is it possible that the Reds could end up with the only winning record in the division?

Nice to have the only competition in the division tank over the last 20 games. :tu


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