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Wolfgang 05-14-2010 06:44 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Ive since found a quick way through lightroom. 250 pictures going through one by one would take forever.

http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/300W...lfgang8810.jpg

Wolfgang 06-01-2010 01:18 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
I need help from my fellow photographers in choosing my next lens purchase. I know may of you shoot canon and your input is still much appreciated.

Let me tell you what I shoot. I find myself working in tight spaces most of the time. Landscapes and wild life make up the majority of my photography although i see doors opening towards portraiture and cityscapes. Trees capture my interest more often than not.

I currently have

28mm f2.8
35mm f1.8
50mm f1.8
18-55 f3.5-5.6
55-200 F4.5-5.6


Lenses Im looking into are

Tokina 11-16 f2.8
Nikon 12-24 f4
Nikon 85mm f3.5 macro
Nikon 105mm f2.8 macro

spectrrr 06-01-2010 05:10 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
I assume you're shooting a cropped body. When I got my 10-22mm for my cropped body it opened brand new horizons. I would definitely look closely at one of the first two super wides.

Wolfgang 06-01-2010 01:43 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
What do you think of 3rd party lenses? I'm hesittant because iv only dealt with on brand stuff and I'm not sure I want to go down that path. Its so tempting though because the Tokina is 300$ less than the Nikon. But I wouldn't mind paying more for something that will last me 20 years.

jkim05 06-01-2010 01:57 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang (Post 874900)
What do you think of 3rd party lenses? I'm hesittant because iv only dealt with on brand stuff and I'm not sure I want to go down that path. Its so tempting though because the Tokina is 300$ less than the Nikon. But I wouldn't mind paying more for something that will last me 20 years.

Depends on the lens. Some 3rd party lenses are as good or better than their equivalents, others not so much. Tokina 11-16 is much loved by Canon crop shooters because no fast equivalent exists from Canon. Also newer sigma lenses compare very favorably to Canon's offerings. However, I can't speak directly to Nikon since I don't have personal experience with their lenses. I will say though, 3rd party lenses seem to be getting better and better, and you should be afraid of them just because they aren't Nikon/Canon, etc. I'm sure no one would reject Leica/Zeiss glass merely because it's a 3rd party lens.

Wolfgang 06-01-2010 02:07 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
If I could get a zeiss for 300 dollars less then on brand that wouldn't be an issue and their lenses have a far better track reccord than some of the other 3rd parties. The sigma 50mm1.4 is presst sweet too. Think ill go with the Tokina from adorama there have been too many positive reviews to be wrong. Only thing I think will bother me is the limited zoom. We'll see.

Brutus2600 06-01-2010 02:10 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
I know that the Tokina lenses I've looked at for my Nikon range from crap on their low end, to some really nice lenses on the high end. All three of those Nikon lenses you listed are very nice lenses. The only reason I would go with the Tokina wide angle over the Nikon wide angle is the lower aperature.

A website that has always been my favorite to see comparisons of lenses is http://www.dpreview.com/ and specifically their Nikon SLR lens discussion page.

Just doing a quick search for the Tokina 11-16 yielded these two interesting threads with some picture examples:

Thread 1 w/ pictures

Thread 2

Edit: As noted in one of those threads, with the Tokina lens you're basically getting a lens that will perform at about 95% of the picture quality as the Nikon, but for $300 cheaper. Worth it in my opinion.

spectrrr 06-01-2010 05:10 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang (Post 874900)
What do you think of 3rd party lenses? I'm hesittant because iv only dealt with on brand stuff and I'm not sure I want to go down that path. Its so tempting though because the Tokina is 300$ less than the Nikon. But I wouldn't mind paying more for something that will last me 20 years.

read read read http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/

I've had mixed results. I currently have a sigma 14mm 2.8 aspherical that I love. I had a few Sigma tele zooms before it that I hated. BUT the key factors are WHY I hated em, and if that applies to you.

At the time I was doing journalism, sports, and a few weddings. FAST AF was critical, and the Sigma HSM couldn't hold a candle to the AF speed of my my other Canon USM lenses. ALSO, Sigma lenses rotate the opposite direction to zoom in and out from Canon lenses, which is a pain in the ass if you're a canon shooter, and totally cool if you're a Nikon shooter!

spectrrr 06-01-2010 05:13 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutus2600 (Post 874919)
....a lens that will perform at about 95% of the picture quality as the Nikon, but for $300 cheaper. Worth it in my opinion.


I stopped being a "pixel peeper" long ago. Add in a little post sharpening and the viewer will NEVER know the difference. (
(obviously it has to be decent, that doesn't mean a kit lens will get the job done!!! but I agree that 95% is "close enough".)

Steve 06-05-2010 08:20 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictur...iftwood%20.jpg

Roland of Gilead 06-05-2010 01:26 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
My Dad just bought a Canon 16-35 f2.8 L.

<------ is jealous.


-Mark.

JE3146 06-05-2010 02:09 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roland of Gilead (Post 878412)
My Dad just bought a Canon 16-35 f2.8 L.

<------ is jealous.


-Mark.

I LOVE that lens. Definitely on my wish list.

Closeup portraits with that lens can product stunning results given the right backdrop.

spectrrr 06-05-2010 08:39 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roland of Gilead (Post 878412)
My Dad just bought a Canon 16-35 f2.8 L.

<------ is jealous.


-Mark.

Awesome lens! I couldn't swing that one, so I compromised and picked up a older model 17-35L 2.8 a while back, and it has served me well. I don't notice the missing 1mm difference too much because I also have a sigma 14mm 2.8 aspherical prime.

jkim05 06-07-2010 10:10 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 878454)
I LOVE that lens. Definitely on my wish list.

Closeup portraits with that lens can product stunning results given the right backdrop.

Just gotta watch out for perspective issues when shooting portraits with a wide-angle lens.

Wolfgang 06-07-2010 11:11 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
DxO will correct any and all lens distortion issues.

jkim05 06-07-2010 11:43 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang (Post 879835)
DxO will correct any and all lens distortion issues.

I wasn't refering to lens distortion, I was referring to perspective issues which are affected by the camera's distance relative to the subject, which is a different issue. The reason a headshot done with a wide angle lens will make the nose appear abnormally large is because of it's closer distance to the sensor relative to the rest of the face. Compression which occurs when the distance to the subject is greater can have a pleasing effect on the face in portraiture. This is not to say wide angle portraits can't be done, but just to make people aware of another consideration in doing so.

OLS 06-07-2010 12:00 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 831839)
It will take some time to get the hang of it. Photoshop is very complex, and there are dozens of different ways to accomplish each and every step I listed there. Some ways are better than others in certain situations. Everyone's workflow is different, .

This is very true. I have been working in Photoshop (at work) for 25 years.
When I watch some tutorials or read people's suggestions-instructions, I often think,
"WHAT??" WTF is he talking about, the WHAT tool?" That's the beauty of Photoshop.
You do with it what you need to do with it and very little else. It's a thousand
different programs in that way. Things exist in there that I have no clue about,
cause I don't use them in my work. That said, I am as fast as anyone in Photoshop
and can produce great work.
My way, lol.

spectrrr 06-07-2010 02:04 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS (Post 879868)
My way, lol.

;) :tu

Same story for me. Learned PS as a kid (still am a kid I guess), thought I knew it... then went to work for a newspaper, learned a different set of stuff.... then went to work for myself doing weddings, learned another set of techniques. I'm pretty good in PS, so that means I know 5% of the program. The really good people know 10% of it :tg

jkim05 06-08-2010 03:10 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Picked up an old Sears 135mm f/2.8 in m42 mount and a cheap adapter. Here are a few shots:

First the lens:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1297/...0bdbc84620.jpg

Sample shots:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/...c82de83807.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1284/...b295e1af49.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/...03278a3b82.jpg

spectrrr 06-08-2010 03:22 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jkim05 (Post 881339)
Picked up an old Sears 135mm f/2.8 in m42 mount and a cheap adapter. Here are a few shots:

First the lens:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1297/...0bdbc84620.jpg

Nice! :tu

what did that package cost you?

jkim05 06-08-2010 03:30 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 881350)
Nice! :tu

what did that package cost you?

I think right around $35 including shipping and the adapter. I've started getting into these manual focus lenses because they're ridiculously cheap compared to AF ones.

Wolfgang 06-08-2010 03:40 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jkim05 (Post 879853)
I wasn't refering to lens distortion, I was referring to perspective issues which are affected by the camera's distance relative to the subject, which is a different issue. The reason a headshot done with a wide angle lens will make the nose appear abnormally large is because of it's closer distance to the sensor relative to the rest of the face. Compression which occurs when the distance to the subject is greater can have a pleasing effect on the face in portraiture. This is not to say wide angle portraits can't be done, but just to make people aware of another consideration in doing so.

DxO will still fix it. Perspective issues like nose bulging is still distortion.

jkim05 06-08-2010 04:15 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang (Post 881368)
DxO will still fix it. Perspective issues like nose bulging is still distortion.

Yes, but it is the specific type of distortion that matters. Can it be fixed in photoshop? Sometimes, but it depends on the quality of the distortion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspec..._(photography)
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=672913

Pincushioning and Barrel distortion are easily corrected and are usually corrected. Compression and perspective distortion caused by focal length are different and cannot be as easily adapted in post processing. Now I'm not familiar with DxO, so I'm not sure of it's capabilities, but I still think it would be difficult to change the relative sizes of background items based on the focal length of the lens, though I haven't tried so it might be easier than I think.

Wolfgang 06-08-2010 08:33 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
DxO has separate modules that you have to download for each different camera body and lens. Where it reads the meta data and has the algorithms to stretch the picture for pincushion, barrel, fisheye, perspective, chromatic aberration, and color.

before
http://www.kenrockwell.com/dv/2007/i...8/IMG_3607.jpg


after
http://www.kenrockwell.com/dv/2007/i...7-badwater.jpg

Roland of Gilead 06-08-2010 10:16 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jkim05 (Post 881339)

Great lens!

My next lens will be a 135 f2 L.

spectrrr 06-08-2010 11:03 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roland of Gilead (Post 881824)
Great lens!

My next lens will be a 135 f2 L.

I had that one for a while, ended up using the 85 1.8 more.... BUT at the time I was shooting cropped bodies. Now that I shoot 5D's, I wish I had the 145 2L back :)

kenstogie 06-22-2010 10:32 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_sctUupuw_Zk/TB...0/IMG_1882.jpg

Wolfgang 06-22-2010 11:06 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Nice Ken. Creamy smooth background too. :tu

J0eybb 06-22-2010 11:14 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang (Post 881726)
DxO has separate modules that you have to download for each different camera body and lens. Where it reads the meta data and has the algorithms to stretch the picture for pincushion, barrel, fisheye, perspective, chromatic aberration, and color.

before
http://www.kenrockwell.com/dv/2007/i...8/IMG_3607.jpg


after
http://www.kenrockwell.com/dv/2007/i...7-badwater.jpg

I have no idea what you are talking about but I really like both photos.

kenstogie 06-22-2010 11:18 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang (Post 895241)
Nice Ken. Creamy smooth background too. :tu

Thanks Bro!
My actual pics are sharper than the hosted ones but still not to bad.

spectrrr 06-22-2010 01:26 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by J0eybb (Post 895249)
I have no idea what you are talking about but I really like both photos.

They are both the same photo, taken with the same lens. A program called DxO automatically turned the fisheye photo into a regular photo :)

Mpython24 06-24-2010 03:10 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
got a nikon 50mm 1.8 in the mail today. love it.

Wolfgang 06-24-2010 03:26 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Awesome Evan. The 1.8 will open up new possibilities but make sure to vary your aperture to see all the different styles a nifty fifty has for you.

Pics or it diddnt happen.

kenstogie 06-26-2010 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpython24 (Post 897871)
got a nikon 50mm 1.8 in the mail today. love it.

My nifty fifty (canon) is my favorite lens and the cheapest. Go figure.
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Wolfgang 06-26-2010 09:56 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
50 mm has the classic field of view that most of us are indoctrinated with. On a crop sensor they are closer to 75mm though:( which is why my 35mm 1.8 hasn't been off my camera in a few months. The classic view rules

kenstogie 06-26-2010 02:12 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
I like mine (yup I have a cropped sensor :() because it's the sharpest and fastest lens I have. The paper thin depth of field is fantastic.

Wolfgang 06-26-2010 05:35 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20...lfgang8810.jpg

smitdavi 06-27-2010 08:18 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Can I play guys?!? :D

Purchased the new Sony Nex3. Wanted something that would give me the DSLR feel in a more compact form. Really love this camera. Still trying to figure out all the bells and whistles.

ODLS1 06-27-2010 11:34 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
I'll play. I'm a newbie and haven't really been able to get out anywhere since I can't drive at the moment. Can't wait until I am able to. I just got a Nikon D3000 though. Always looking for good criticism to improve.

Shutter Speed: 2/1 second
Aperture: F/5.6
Focal Length: 200 mm
ISO Speed: 100
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/...b02880f0_b.jpg

Shutter Speed: 1/30 second
Aperture: F/5.0
Focal Length: 38 mm
ISO Speed: 100
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/...9791695a_b.jpg

Shutter Speed: 1 second
Aperture: F/5.3
Focal Length: 45 mm
ISO Speed: 400
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4028/...e7af28fb_b.jpg

Shutter Speed: 1/250 second
Aperture: F/8.0
Focal Length: 55 mm
ISO Speed: 100
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1406/...1fec1009_b.jpg

kenstogie 06-27-2010 12:03 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
I like em. Specially The pooch and the bottle ccap.
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Mpython24 06-27-2010 05:49 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Nice Stuff man. I got my D3000 a couple months ago. It does what i need. love it.

kenstogie 06-27-2010 05:59 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Buddy of mine has Nikon D30 (I think, full frame for sure) that he actually lets me borrow. Problem is that my Canon T1i is quite frankly a frustrating let down now. :( might be time to upgrade.

smitdavi 06-27-2010 06:23 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Here's a few from the weekend:

http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/...i/DSC00023.jpg

http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/...i/DSC00112.jpg
**sunset at the drive in was amazing last night. Had to snap a few pics.

Wolfgang 06-28-2010 01:28 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Summer is in full swing. Would anyone like to restart the weekend Photo competition?

kenstogie 06-28-2010 06:51 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang (Post 901162)
Summer is in full swing. Would anyone like to restart the weekend Photo competition?

Great Idea but perhaps make it a week long instead of a weekend. Just a thought. :)

Wolfgang 06-28-2010 10:38 AM

Re: Photography Thread
 
alright. Weekly photo competition :D

kenstogie 07-15-2010 12:40 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
As mentioned earlier in the thread my Sister asked me to take her pictures and I thought I would throw up one of the better ones. Might post more. The original is considerably sharper but you get the idea.
Both the bride and the groom were very pleased and in there words "Your pictures are better than many of the pictures from the pro's that sent us examples" I took about 1000 pics and narrowed it down to about 200 good ones. Many were dups of the same scene to ensure that I got a good one.

It was esentially a non stop 7 hours or so. I did stop to eat (15-20 Mins) and there was a little wait time (20 mins appx) for her to get ready. I noticed that alot of it was not just the technical aspect (taking a properly exposed and composed shot) but the personable aspect, that is getting them to smile and getting there attention so I could take a good picture.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_6Ij_CVeMmBw/TC...IMG_2153-1.JPG

coffeemonkey 07-15-2010 01:47 PM

Re: EQUIPMENT Question Sunpak 555
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenstogie (Post 816618)
http://media.skateboard.com.au/forum...s/101_0011.JPG

Friend of mine GAVE me a Sunpak 555 and want to hook it up to my Canon T1i

1st - is there a hotshoe connector?
2nd - is it worth the effort?
3rd - Possibility of Damage to my T1i?

I understand I may need to use it in full manual but did I mention it was free? :D

Don't plug it in via hot shoe but you can use a PC chord easy peasy. That is how we do with our cameras that we use to shoot graduations. It does mean you have to control the flash manually, but those flashes won't talk to your camera anyway, so you are in manual regardless.

ridenlive 07-15-2010 01:54 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
3 Attachment(s)
Here are few as soon as i get my photo radar page up and going i'll show more then.

spectrrr 07-15-2010 02:54 PM

Re: Photography Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenstogie (Post 917335)
As mentioned earlier in the thread my Sister asked me to take her pictures and I thought I would throw up one of the better ones. Might post more. The original is considerably sharper but you get the idea.
Both the bride and the groom were very pleased and in there words "Your pictures are better than many of the pictures from the pro's that sent us examples" I took about 1000 pics and narrowed it down to about 200 good ones. Many were dups of the same scene to ensure that I got a good one.

It was esentially a non stop 7 hours or so. I did stop to eat (15-20 Mins) and there was a little wait time (20 mins appx) for her to get ready. I noticed that alot of it was not just the technical aspect (taking a properly exposed and composed shot) but the personable aspect, that is getting them to smile and getting there attention so I could take a good picture.

Quiero ver mas fotos!


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