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Scothew 09-05-2010 10:07 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 978194)
Nice ingredient list. I use a very small amount of thyme in most of my BBQ rubs too, opens up a whole new set of flavors.



Maple syrup? or corn syrup?

Corn. Maple is way expensive here and my wife gave me the "look" when I wnated to pick up some of that. Ive used molassas before and I cant tell a difference.

hammondc 09-05-2010 12:30 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Done.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...c/DSC_0051.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...c/DSC_0054.jpg

Now it gets a nap for a while before pulling.

Smokin Gator 09-05-2010 12:33 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Nice lookin' butt there Chip!!

cort 09-05-2010 12:37 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin Gator (Post 978373)
Nice lookin' butt there Chip!!

-(P

hammondc 09-05-2010 12:41 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Thanks guys. More pics after it gets pulled.

Steve 09-05-2010 12:52 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin Gator (Post 978373)
Nice lookin' butt there Chip!!

More of that Bro-Mancing going on around here!

:D

Smokin Gator 09-05-2010 12:53 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steve (Post 978385)
More of that Bro-Mancing going on around here!

:D

You're just jealous I wasn't complimenting your butt:tu

Steve 09-05-2010 12:54 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
That's right...!

:r:r:r

Giant & 49er Fan 09-05-2010 12:56 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
No one does a Butt like Brent... I mean
I like Brent's Butt the Best... wait
can't I just compliment another man's BBQ!

Smokin Gator 09-05-2010 12:57 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RPguy (Post 978395)
No one does a Butt like Brent... I mean
I like Brent's Butt the Best... wait
can't I just compliment another man's BBQ!

Mine are so good 'cause I let Steve rub and pull my butt!!!

Steve 09-05-2010 12:59 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin Gator (Post 978396)
Mine are so good 'cause I let Steve rub and pull my butt!!!

That's Right...!

:r:r:r

hammondc 09-05-2010 01:02 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
This is getting uncomfortable. :xxx

Ahbroody 09-05-2010 01:30 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Okay read through about 15 pages of this thread.
Have an nice gas grill like Bsmokin, but want to get into smoking.

Would you guys recommend starting out with a WSM or something else? I see the dedicated smokers at the hardware stores etc and I just dont know which way to go.

Smokin Gator 09-05-2010 01:34 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
For a family sized smoke it is hard the beat the WSM.

hammondc 09-05-2010 02:18 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
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Originally Posted by Smokin Gator (Post 978419)
For a family sized smoke it is hard the beat the WSM.

Yep. I LOOOOOVED my WSM.

Ahbroody 09-05-2010 04:12 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Just found a New Braunfels Smoker for basically free.
Think I may grab it and learn with it then upgrade.

Smokin Gator 09-05-2010 04:14 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 978522)
Just found a New Braunfels Smoker for basically free.
Think I may grab it and learn with it then upgrade.

Is it an offset or a cabinet style?

Ahbroody 09-05-2010 04:42 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Offset

Smokin Gator 09-05-2010 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 978534)
Offset

It is a very good smoker. Way more work as far as keeping it cooking, but a dang good smoker.

Steve 09-05-2010 05:01 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
There are a couple of easy modes that will make it easier to cook with though. I have an older one in my garage that I used a lot before I got my Lang. I don't know how old yours is that you found, but mine is made from fairly heavy ga. metal. Some of the newer ones are a bit thinner and it's harder to keep the temperature level.

I'll look around for a typed copy of the mods, if I can't find them I'll re-type them and post them.

OLS 09-05-2010 06:47 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
I was looking for a NB Smoker when I ended up buying my Char-Griller. I was PI$$ed when I found
out they were no longer making the "quintessential" smoker, and had gone on to either be sold or
just changing the most important materials feature of the thing that made em famous. I had
ignored the company forever, I could have ccared less about smoking. The one day I caught
fire and it was too late. :(. I have enjoyed my Char-griller, though. So while it may not
get the props of the new favorites in the smoke biz, if it is a thick metal unit, you got a winner.
Like I have said too many times, I just indirect grillnsmoke my meats. There is plenty of space.

Ranger_B 09-06-2010 10:53 AM

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Here is a pic from dinner last night. Couple of ribs and some veggies. Dont be too hard on them they taste better than they look.

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T.G 09-06-2010 11:19 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scothew (Post 978252)
Corn. Maple is way expensive here and my wife gave me the "look" when I wnated to pick up some of that. Ive used molassas before and I cant tell a difference.

I wonder how much the different sugars found in corn syrup versus refined sugar play a part in the end product....

Where's Alton Brown when you need him, eh?

Scothew 09-06-2010 01:27 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 979207)
I wonder how much the different sugars found in corn syrup versus refined sugar play a part in the end product....

Where's Alton Brown when you need him, eh?

:banger @ alton.

I wondered also on if the hig fructose was a good thing or not, but it didnt seem to hinder the flavors and the meat was dripping in juice from inside to out, even after resting for 10 hours. I would love to get ahold of some syrup made with cane sugar, i bet it would give a great flavor.

T.G 09-06-2010 05:46 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
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Originally Posted by Scothew (Post 979328)
:banger @ alton.

I wondered also on if the hig fructose was a good thing or not, but it didnt seem to hinder the flavors and the meat was dripping in juice from inside to out, even after resting for 10 hours. I would love to get ahold of some syrup made with cane sugar, i bet it would give a great flavor.

Woah... back the truck up...

Did you use corn syrup or high-fructose corn syrup? Big difference

Scothew 09-06-2010 07:46 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
It was corn syrup but after you asked, i went back and looked at the ingredients and it has some high fructose in it.

T.G 09-06-2010 09:23 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scothew (Post 979639)
It was corn syrup but after you asked, i went back and looked at the ingredients and it has some high fructose in it.

Cool. Thanks. Basically, the reason for the question was that it's a different sugar, and it can behave differently.

One of these days I'll see if I can dig up a scientific explanation if there's any advantage to using HFCS and/or CS either alone or in conjunction with refined sugar in brines, or rather, how, if anything, it might affect the meat differently.

cricky101 09-07-2010 08:47 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
From earlier this weekend - I only took one cell phone pic after everything was finished and rested. This was about 11 p.m. and I was shot.

LtoR - Cubed brisket point I turned into burnt ends, sliced brisket flat, and pork butt. I started with a 9-lb packer brisket and an 8.5 pork butt and cooked for about 12 hours on my cheap, Brinkman Gourmet with lump charcoal and a mix hickory and cherry wood.

I've done a brisket before, but this was my first pork butt - and I will definitely be making more of them!


http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...101/photo1.jpg

Steve 09-07-2010 09:33 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Looks great!

bsmokin 09-07-2010 09:35 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
:dr :dr :dr

That looks sooooo good! :tu


I'll be making my first pork butts this weekend. I'll probably make two. Going to use my new weber charcoal grill and the smokenator! :)

Scothew 09-07-2010 09:49 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Good luck Bryan and take pics!

HK3- 09-07-2010 10:59 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
marinated some chicken breasts in jerk sauce over night. stuck them on the smoker about an hour ago. going to baste them every hour or so with some scotch bonnet sauce to give them a little zing.

BigAsh 09-07-2010 11:39 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
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Originally Posted by HK3- (Post 980263)
marinated some chicken breasts in jerk sauce over night. stuck them on the smoker about an hour ago. going to baste them every hour or so with some scotch bonnet sauce to give them a little zing.

Nice!.....loved jerked chicken!

ucla695 09-07-2010 11:47 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HK3- (Post 980263)
marinated some chicken breasts in jerk sauce over night. stuck them on the smoker about an hour ago. going to baste them every hour or so with some scotch bonnet sauce to give them a little zing.

:dr :dr

rizzle 09-07-2010 12:34 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin Gator (Post 976836)
Richie... (drawn out to about 5 syllables). You need to bring that up here, hang out with me, cook overnight, drink a little Jim Beam, smoke a few smokes, and let me show the art of cooking on a WSM:tu

Brent, I can see myself taking you up on that offer. What kind of fool would I be not to?
:tu

mosesbotbol 09-07-2010 02:56 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HK3- (Post 980263)
marinated some chicken breasts in jerk sauce over night. stuck them on the smoker about an hour ago. going to baste them every hour or so with some scotch bonnet sauce to give them a little zing.

Suprised you did not use half chickens instead.

Smokin Gator 09-08-2010 04:55 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 980365)
What kind of fool would I be not to?
:tu

A Bama fan:r:r

bigdix 09-08-2010 05:30 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
PEPPERS!! and soon. My jalapeno plant is finally starting to fruit and I'm gonna go nuts smoking the little suckers. This plant looks like it's going to produce 60-75 peppers this go round alone. His little brother is right by his side :) Fresh chipotles anyone?? :D

HK3- 09-08-2010 09:02 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HK3- (Post 980263)
marinated some chicken breasts in jerk sauce over night. stuck them on the smoker about an hour ago. going to baste them every hour or so with some scotch bonnet sauce to give them a little zing.

Chicken turned out ok. I went out for awhile yesterday and forgot about it so it stayed on an hour longer than it should have.... Flavor was great and the scotch bonnet sauce just made my lips tingle and my a$$ burn like fire today. :r

Ahbroody 09-08-2010 09:28 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Okay boys need a little input.
So I picked up the smoker for 20.00. Not a bad starter especially for the price
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...y/183500ae.jpg

I modified the chimney as I read its an issue. My question is how shold I set up the bricks or should I use bricks. I did some ribs the other night. Going to do a tritip tonight and want to nail it.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...y/5f2d25bd.jpg

GolfNut 09-08-2010 09:37 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Well, it's not in the smoker yet, but I've got a couple big shoulders curing in the fridge for some Buckboard Bacon. I'll be smoking it next week. Here's a shot of the last batch I did. I processed over 40 lbs on that smoke. It was awesome. http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...on011Small.jpghttp://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...on013Small.jpg

T.G 09-08-2010 10:26 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 981387)
Okay boys need a little input.
So I picked up the smoker for 20.00. Not a bad starter especially for the price
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...y/183500ae.jpg

Can't tell for certain from the photo, but that looks like one of the older ones that was built out of heavier metal than they use nowadays. Good score.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 981387)
I modified the chimney as I read its an issue. My question is how shold I set up the bricks or should I use bricks. I did some ribs the other night. Going to do a tritip tonight and want to nail it.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...y/5f2d25bd.jpg

Few things...

There are a few potential problems with red clay bricks... Sometimes the clay used in the construction of the brick has compounds in it that you don't want venting into the firebox as you would end up eating them, at best, they taste off, at worst, they're toxic. Red bricks also trap moisture and can shatter when heated. Finally, they aren't anywhere near as good a heat sink & buffer as refractory firebricks. You should be able to find firebrick at ACE hardware or OSH or any rockyard. Two firebricks should cost you less than $4. If you must use red brick, I recommend wrapping them in a few layers of heavy duty aluminum foil.

Just place the bricks across the drum to form a barrier, it's not really critical if they are overlapping or butted up together. All you are looking for is to restrict the charcoal to a small area at the end of the chamber opposite the exhaust. How much area? Fill a chimney with briquettes, and dump them in, then mound them up into a tight pile, then put the firebricks a little bit further out than that, allowing room for a bit more charcoal and smoke wood. If you have an angle grinder and a dust mask, grinding them to match the contour of the drum is a snap, firebrick is very soft.

Any major air leaks should really be sealed. This means the bolt holes on the back side and the airgap around the firebox door. These things aren't a big deal to a grill, but can be a very big deal to a smoker/bbq.

I'm not sure what the chimney issue is that you are referring to, but what I see that extension doing is causing smoke to bottle up inside the pit. This could lead to a layer of carbon and creosote on the food. If you are going to use the extension that you have in place now, since it's galvanized tin, I would build a hot fire, grab a can of PAM cooking spray and spray it down inside and out a few times during the burn to bake a layer of oil onto it, to prevent the chance of any metallic off flavors.


As for tri-tip, I wouldn't smoke it. Indirect cook at medium-high heat (350-375) until about 130 internal (30-45 minutes depending on the thickness of the cut). Use oak or grape vines for smoke, or get a bag of Lazzari mesquite lump and cook with that. Either make your own rub or pick up a 2lb jar of Pappy's seasoning rub at costco or sam's and a 2lb container of granulated garlic and mix them together 1:1. Rub meat down with that a few hours before cooking. You could also dump some Lea & Perrin's worcestershire sauce (all other brands pale in comparison) over the meat, then coat with rub, wrap tightly in saran wrap, and put back into the refrigerator for a few hours. After it hits about 130F internal, pull the meat off, allow to rest for 10 minutes, slice very thin, pile it high on fresh sourdough or french rolls and top with fresh salsa.

GolfNut 09-08-2010 10:38 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Here's a bit of info on that chimney extension. A link below will take you to SMF where you can read up on other mods to do as well as find a ton of info and help for your new smoker!

Chimney Extension

Most of the entry level models have the chimney hole cut in the top of the smoker and the chimney does not protrude into the smoke chamber at all.. Heat and smoke rise so what happens is the heat from the firebox rises, runs along the top of the lid on the way to the chimney, and exits the smoker without doing much at grate level. Since the meat is on the grates, we would like to encourage the heat and smoke to travel across the meat on their way to the chimney. This helps to even out the temperature across the grate and makes the smoker more efficient. To accommodate this, it is a good idea to extend the chimney down to close to grate level. There are several different ways to do this. One is to use dryer vent ducting.

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/for...et-smoker-mods

T.G 09-08-2010 10:46 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
If you're extending the chimney a few inches into the chamber, sure.

The way the photo looked to me, and maybe it's just the angle, my eyes and this crappy monitor, but it looked like the extension went all the way down to the grate level, which is something that could be potentially disastrous.

Ahbroody 09-08-2010 11:27 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Forrest thanks for the link I read about the chimney extension somewhere else, but will be reading up on the site to get more info on mods. The chimney does hang down a little but only like an inch. Guess I will look into getting a muffler shop to make a down pipe. Unitl then I will use what I got .

Adam it is defiently the old one with very thick metal. Its a friggin tank I almost lost it unloading it from the truck . There is a gap between the chimney and grill. Thought it was a few inches will double check.

There is an ACE down the street will get a few bricks there today. Got an angle grinder and water tile saw so I am pretty sure I can shape them.

I noticed the air gap on the fire door box. Will seal that up today. Didnt even notice those holes in the back LOL. Fail on my part.

Will cook the meat using the method you said. Picked up a meath thermometer yesterday As for prep I did it last night. garlic and salt rub. Tri tip to me just does not need a lot of seasoning if it is cooked right to taste awesome. its one of my favorite cuts of meat. Funny its such a west coast thing.

T.G 09-08-2010 11:59 AM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Don't use a wet saw on firebrick, only dry saws or a cold chisel. Then just hit it with the angle grinder to shape it. Refractory firebrick is super soft, that 10k RPM angle grinder will make very quick work of it. If you can't find firebricks, LMK, I'll bring you a few next time I'm down that way.

I agree, not much seasoning is needed for Tri-tip. I've done them with as little as just Lawry's garlic salt (which has parsley in it) and mesquite wood, although I prefer a little bit more spices in there - normally for tri-tip, I only season a few hours before cooking.

Oh, crap, forgot to mention a couple of obvious things (just in case) on the cooking: 125-135 is going to be about medium rare in the thicker parts leaning towards more done in the thinner parts. A little bit over halfway though the cook (about 20 minutes) you would want to rotate and flip the meat because you are cooking in an indirect offset. And I can't believe I forgot to mention that once the meat is at done temp, open all your vents up 100%, get the fire nice and hot and then move the tri-tip to the grate directly over the coals and just stand there, don't even close the lid, and just sear the meat for a few minutes per side.

Mr B 09-08-2010 01:35 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 981472)
but it looked like the extension went all the way down to the grate level, which is something that could be potentially disastrous.


???

T.G 09-08-2010 01:51 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr B (Post 981694)
???

If the exhaust is that low, basically at the same level as the coals, you'll fire will probably smolder too much due to the trapped carbon monoxide and in turn, you'll end up coating your food with soot and creosote, assuming you can even maintain a temp to cook it.

Ahbroody 09-08-2010 02:11 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Got her fired up, going to get the tritip on there in about 20 min after its going good. Wife is even a little geeked as I will be cooking more.

HK3- 09-08-2010 04:07 PM

Re: What's in your smoker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 981751)
Got her fired up, going to get the tritip on there in about 20 min after its going good. Wife is even a little geeked as I will be cooking more.

:tu My wife can always count on me to grill or smoke dinner. Problem is that she gets tired of only eating meat and no vegetables. :r

Btw- Corn on the cob turns out really good in the smoker.


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