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357 02-14-2011 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleven (Post 1167905)
Look at a Red Wings game. I swear they keep the camera angle purposely away from the stands because if it's not a playoff game that place is half empty.

Atlanta and Florida are worse, but of course the teams are worse :)

According to:

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance

For the 2010-2011 season the Wings are averaging 19,520 which is 97.3 % of capacity.



BTW, thanks for the Pens-Isles fight link Tom. Crazy stuff there. IMO, the hit on Comeau friom the previous game looked dirty, but the cheapshot sucker punch that started this melee was really bad. You don't get even for a cheapshot with another cheapshot. You (or your local enforcer) square off against him and beat him face to face.

chand 02-14-2011 11:17 AM

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Forsberg retires after 2 games. A few less than I had thought. :sh

E.J. 02-14-2011 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chand (Post 1172223)
Forsberg retires after 2 games. A few less than I had thought. :sh

Yep...that didn't last long....
http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/P...alanche-021411

gravelman 02-14-2011 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1172155)
One of the Islanders (Blake Comeau) took what the Islanders thought was a questionable hit in their previous matchup, Sean. Comeau finished that came but subsequently came down with concussion symptoms that the Islanders blame on the hit by Maxim Talbot....that is why Talbot seemed to be the target of most of their nonsense.

Ahh thank you much for the clarification Tom. I hadn't seen that previous game. :tu

icehog3 02-14-2011 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1172220)
BTW, thanks for the Pens-Isles fight link Tom. Crazy stuff there. IMO, the hit on Comeau friom the previous game looked dirty, but the cheapshot sucker punch that started this melee was really bad. You don't get even for a cheapshot with another cheapshot.

Very Bertuzzi like, I am sorry Martin only got 4 games. :2

Quote:

Originally Posted by 357
You (or your local enforcer) square off against him and beat him face to face.

Agree 110%, Mike. :tu

Eleven 02-14-2011 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chand (Post 1172223)
Forsberg retires after 2 games. A few less than I had thought. :sh

Wow!

Good thing I got this at the Blue Jackets game the other night:

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3746/forsberg.jpg

gravelman 02-14-2011 10:02 PM

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Found this while searching for his overall stats, thought it was pretty interesting...

Here it is

Sawyer 02-15-2011 09:23 PM

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Thrashers sign Byfuglien to multi-year extension. Reported to be 26 mil over 5 years. Only good news to come out of Atlanta for weeks.

Ahbroody 02-15-2011 10:25 PM

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It was the smart decision with fugly. He can be a beast on the ice and dramatically impact the game.

Sharks win in OT against the Preds. Not a very exciting game except for the ending in OT.

icehog3 02-15-2011 11:48 PM

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Watched the Sharks game, wish they would have gotten it done in regulation. :hn

Mike, is Heatley always that bad in his own end? I thought he was used on the PK< but man, he was awful.

Good for Byfuglien....just wish it had been in Chicago.

Ahbroody 02-16-2011 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1174244)
Watched the Sharks game, wish they would have gotten it done in regulation. :hn

Mike, is Heatley always that bad in his own end? I thought he was used on the PK< but man, he was awful.

Good for Byfuglien....just wish it had been in Chicago.

It has been talked about many times this year. He uhhhhh, yeah he can be fairly irresponsible and he is not exactly getting noticed for backchecking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZXGJYz8GMo Not a good day. I love DP going over to Chara and bumping him. Yeah your going to fight him. Sure buddy. It kills me to see him with that C. I got to say I loved last week when he was talking crap to Kovalcuck towards the end of the game only to have Kovalchuck beat him and his D partner on a 1 on 2.

Ohhh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDIcjBGkAG4

Ahbroody 02-16-2011 01:16 AM

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Forsberg retirement presser

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcX35ob6T9I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sxg4s6Tv5E

Bruins Fan 02-16-2011 03:22 AM

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Bruins drop 3rd straight in a piss poor effort last night on home ice.
Last night they traded their second round pick to the Senators for Chris Kelly, WTF. Not the kind of player we were looking for?
This is the third season I have said it Julien has got to go.

kugie 02-16-2011 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 1174288)
Bruins drop 3rd straight in a piss poor effort last night on home ice.
Last night they traded their second round pick to the Senators for Chris Kelly, WTF. Not the kind of player we were looking for?
This is the third season I have said it Julien has got to go.


I agree if Julien, fails in the playoffs this year or if they miss the playoffs, he is gone.
They also now have the same amount of points as Montreal. You can almost see it slipping away.

Bruins Fan 02-16-2011 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kugie (Post 1174343)
I agree if Julien, fails in the playoffs this year or if they miss the playoffs, he is gone.
They also now have the same amount of points as Montreal. You can almost see it slipping away.

Julien is a decent regular season coach, but can't step up in the playoffs.
Montreal fired him, he brought NJ to the playoffs,
Amarillo fired him and coached the team himself
and went on to win the cup.He is not a big game coach.
What he done to Kampfer was classless, scratch the kid with 50 family and friends in the stand that have never seen him play.
I don't know why one of the captains didn't speak up on that one?:td

kugie 02-16-2011 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 1174530)
Julien is a decent regular season coach, but can't step up in the playoffs.
Montreal fired him, he brought NJ to the playoffs,
Amarillo fired him and coached the team himself
and went on to win the cup.He is not a big game coach.
What he done to Kampfer was classless, scratch the kid with 50 family and friends in the stand that have never seen him play.
I don't know why one of the captains didn't speak up on that one?:td

I didn't know about the Kamfer thing. But I think he has an issue with Rookies. Why does he always healthy scratch the kids when it could be there time to shine. But He will let a veteran player who is playing like (something a dog dropped in the yard) ie wideman (last year), Wheeler play on when they really need the kick in the A$$. He is confusing:confused:

icehog3 02-16-2011 09:51 AM

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DP is a tool. :2

Ahbroody 02-17-2011 01:29 AM

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daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhDWvrTcSFY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmZJF...eature=related

fans involved here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boMGy...eature=related

Ahbroody 02-17-2011 01:35 AM

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Love the homer announcers complaining the ref let him get his ass beat.
Uhhhh he seemed to throw the shot that started it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjAh7uiS32A

Pens have the most fighting majors in the league. Made me wonder when Mario was so so upset this weekend. I know he is lobbying because he has players hurt and all, but when your team leads the league in fights should you really be that upset?

icehog3 02-17-2011 10:26 AM

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Mario is looking like a hypocrite, he doesn't speak up when Matt Cooke pulls his nonsense, but says the things he does now? I understand the Islanders had a couple real tools in that situation the other night, but Mario needs to look at his own team in the mirror before he gets his holier-than-thou attitude going.

Bruins Fan 02-17-2011 10:56 AM

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Mario was cheap shot artist himself he would start something then hide behind a teammate.
He also skated with Ulf Samuelson another cheap shot artist that ended Cam Neely career.:td

chand 02-17-2011 11:05 AM

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I love that Mario may have to rethink whether he wants to be a part of the NHL. :sh Maybe it time to go then. Maybe you could sell to Balsillie so Toronto can have an NHL team too! :r

Ahbroody 02-17-2011 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1176016)
Mario is looking like a hypocrite, he doesn't speak up when Matt Cooke pulls his nonsense, but says the things he does now? I understand the Islanders had a couple real tools in that situation the other night, but Mario needs to look at his own team in the mirror before he gets his holier-than-thou attitude going.

I didnt want to say it,thanks for writting that. When he spoke out all I could think was "Hello pot this is the kettle. Your black" Uhhhhh dude you employ Matt Cooke who is currently suspended AGAIN. You are a hypocrite to get on the soap box with suspensions and your team leading the league in fights. Maybe a team decided to send a message.

E.J. 02-17-2011 12:21 PM

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Well, the Avs could lose their 10th straight if they cannot beat the Sharks Saturday...

On the flip side, I am getting my fix from some GREAT tournament HS hockey....

357 02-17-2011 12:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1176016)
Mario is looking like a hypocrite, he doesn't speak up when Matt Cooke pulls his nonsense, but says the things he does now? I understand the Islanders had a couple real tools in that situation the other night, but Mario needs to look at his own team in the mirror before he gets his holier-than-thou attitude going.

:tu

icehog3 02-17-2011 02:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chand (Post 1176062)
I love that Mario may have to rethink whether he wants to be a part of the NHL. :sh Maybe it time to go then. Maybe you could sell to Balsillie so Toronto can have an NHL team too! :r

I wonder if Mario realizes the NHL can survive without him.

Ahbroody 02-17-2011 02:16 PM

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Wayne found out. Maybe Mario needs to find out.

357 02-18-2011 07:13 AM

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Although i only caught the first period and a few min of the second, it was nice to see the Wings beat the Lightening. Great to see Stuart back, and without any hesitation. He was scrapping in the corners and throwing his body around. He's easily the most physical defensemen we have. Even though Kronwall is known for being a big hitter, Stuart is still more in your face on every shift.

chand 02-18-2011 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1177112)
Although i only caught the first period and a few min of the second, it was nice to see the Wings beat the Lightening. Great to see Stuart back, and without any hesitation. He was scrapping in the corners and throwing his body around. He's easily the most physical defensemen we have. Even though Kronwall is known for being a big hitter, Stuart is still more in your face on every shift.

Ugh! Luckily, the Sharks kept the Caps from getting closer.

Ahbroody 02-18-2011 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1177112)
Although i only caught the first period and a few min of the second, it was nice to see the Wings beat the Lightening. Great to see Stuart back, and without any hesitation. He was scrapping in the corners and throwing his body around. He's easily the most physical defensemen we have. Even though Kronwall is known for being a big hitter, Stuart is still more in your face on every shift.

Watched the third of this game. Wings looked really good. Howard played well. Not sure how many locked passes and blocked shots the Wings had, but it looked like they should have set some record. Hell the 6th goal was a blocked pass which resulted in a breakaway. They looked good. Looks like I may have to eat my words this year as the wings are getting healthy and rolling hard. I will say I thought Stuart was taking a few to many liberties with that cage. I dont like seeing guys who cant take some shoves up high give some.

As mentioned Sharks won again and are something like 11-2-2 in their last 15. Should be 12-1-2. How they lost that Panthers game still has me pissed. No game lost was a blowout I think all were one goal games. Nemo is plaging well in net and the team is playing great team D.

Bruins Fan 02-18-2011 12:42 PM

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B's trade Joe Coloborn and draft picks to Toronto for Kaberle.
In a cap space move, Wheeler and Stuart to Atlanta for Peveraly and Valabik.
I don't see this doing anything more then getting a puck moving defenseman to play point on the powerplay.
Looks to me like trades just to make trades?:td

icehog3 02-18-2011 01:29 PM

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E.J. ........Ottawa? :(

Ahbroody 02-18-2011 03:29 PM

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That trade is weird Tom. Swapping struggling goalies.
Sharks send Derek Joslin to Canes in one trade and get defenseman Ian White in a second trade. Completely unfamiliar with the kid. I know the Sharks have been much happier with their new team defense approach and current winning streak, but was expecting them to try to land a big name dman. Thats looking like it wont happen.

Anyone look at the pacific division standings. Would appear to be the toughest division in the west.

icehog3 02-18-2011 03:36 PM

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Maybe they figure a change of scenery will do them both good? :confused:

Ian White is pretty solid, with some attitude, at least that's how I remember him with Calgary....good 4 or 5 D-man.

All the papers here had the Hawks hot after Mark Stuart, that is apparently out now.

Ahbroody 02-18-2011 03:54 PM

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Sharks will play the Wings tuesday and the Pens wednesday. Hate hate hate hate hate to both teams. :r
Make the world a better place punch Matt Cooke in the face. :r
Come to think of it punch a bunch of the Wings in the face, but I know that wont happen.
Wonder what the odds are for no fights tuesday and a couple of fights wednesday?

kugie 02-18-2011 05:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 1177483)
B's trade Joe Coloborn and draft picks to Toronto for Kaberle.
In a cap space move, Wheeler and Stuart to Atlanta for Peveraly and Valabik.
I don't see this doing anything more then getting a puck moving defenseman to play point on the powerplay.
Looks to me like trades just to make trades?:td

I like the fact that they may have a Quarterback on the power play now.

I think they made themselves better with Peverley, and Kaberle.
They Traded draft picks.

I liked Stuart. I thought he was going to be with the team for a while but I think they did the right thing.

Sawyer 02-18-2011 07:20 PM

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I am sad to see Peverley leave Atlanta, but it probably won't matter as much when the whole team ships out next season.

icehog3 02-18-2011 11:19 PM

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Hawks are warming up the fat lady. :td

E.J. 02-19-2011 10:40 AM

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Wow.....hope this works out....:confused:

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/scott_cullen/?id=354495

Steward and Shattenkirk for E. Johnson and McClement

icehog3 02-19-2011 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by E.J. (Post 1178490)
Wow.....hope this works out....:confused:

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/scott_cullen/?id=354495

Steward and Shattenkirk for E. Johnson and McClement

Two bad trades in a row for the Avs. :2

E.J. 02-19-2011 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1177527)
E.J. ........Ottawa? :(

Don't know how I missed this....

Yea...I remember you saying that it didn't appear that they had Craig in their long term plans, but this surprised me... Then again, with the way the Avs have collapsed....no move surprises me. Off go Steward and Shattenkirk....:confused:

icehog3 02-19-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by E.J. (Post 1178501)
Don't know how I missed this....

Yea...I remember you saying that it didn't appear that they had Craig in their long term plans, but this surprised me... Then again, with the way the Avs have collapsed....no move surprises me. Off go Steward and Shattenkirk....:confused:

I am shocked by the S&S trade even more than the CA one...I think the Avs made a mistake. I think Johnson is a good D-man, but the Blues got the better end of the deal by far IMHO.

Ahbroody 02-19-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1178500)
Two bad trades in a row for the Avs. :2

Wow the first trade I was confused about, this one Im stunned. Someone took a payoff or something.

E.J. 02-19-2011 03:39 PM

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Well....suffice to say it has been a tough last bit to be an Avs fan... If my calculations are correct, my Avs have lost 19 of their last 26.

They can put the puck in the net, but have allowed more goals than anyone in the league.

I assume with a run like that, your going to make some significant changes. They have started to rebuild & keeping the puck out of their own net seems to be something they are thinking about....this season is shot...:al

I'm just hoping for the best.....ugghhh...

icehog3 02-19-2011 03:55 PM

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Understand the desire to turn things around, E.J., but not sure how letting go of Shattenkirk and Stewart can be considered rebuilding? :confused:

Sawyer 02-19-2011 04:09 PM

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Embarrassing loss by the Thrashers today. Just disappointing to watch them fall apart in the third with a 3-1 lead.

E.J. 02-19-2011 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1178730)
Understand the desire to turn things around, E.J., but not sure how letting go of Shattenkirk and Stewart can be considered rebuilding? :confused:

I think that Avs had to get better in their zone....and getting Johnson starts that. Though I don't know McClement, he is reportedly a defensive minded. In short, I think the Blues went offense and the Avs went defense.
To get someone like Johnson, you are going to have to give something up....and they did. Are they taking a chance, YES....but what they have is not working. You are going to struggle when you need 4 goals to get a win....

The group of guys the Avs have(had) are A TON of fun to watch on one side of the ice....

I assume that 1st round pick will be next year, so let's hope the Blues continue to struggle a year from now.

E.J. 02-19-2011 05:12 PM

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...and just to be clear, just because I am trying to make sense of this move, doesn't mean I am pleased they made it...or think it was a solid move.

In a few years, we'll see what effect this had on both teams, some great young talent just changed addresses.....

icehog3 02-19-2011 07:37 PM

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Understood, E.J.......and I don't have to root for the Avs any more now that Craig is gone. ;)

chand 02-19-2011 08:11 PM

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And Stewart produces for the Blues immediately...


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