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Devanmc 03-13-2012 10:06 AM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Anyone have a good Amber Ale receipt to share?

kaisersozei 03-13-2012 10:37 AM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrreindeer (Post 1589809)
BELGIAN STRONG ALE

Gerard, you've been a great help as I continue to slide down this slope...I hadn't realized it but the instrux tell me to do a cold fermentation.

I thought that that was reserved just for lagers....any thoughts there?

And...in order to do that, I guess I have to make some room in my kegerator...and raise the temp...
:confused: Not sure why this is--most strong ales are actually helped by warmer fermentation, to produce a higher ester/phenol profile. Perhaps it's talking about "cold conditioning" which is a way to get all that Belgian yeast to drop out of suspension and clarify the beer once fermentation is done.

Right before you bottle, put the fermenter in your kegerator for a few days. Temps can be in the 40s, although I've heard some people go as low as the mid-30's. The yeast and anything else you have floating around (hop particles, etc.) will drop, then you can bottle as normal.

mrreindeer 03-13-2012 10:41 AM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Awesome, as usual. Thanks Gerard!

And that's exactly what I was thinking...about it needing warmer temps first. I very well may have assumed the cold temps were for the beginning but really meant for the end.

I was going to throw this on the tap; any reason why I'd want to bottle instead?

Salvelinus 03-13-2012 03:19 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmblz (Post 1589771)
doing a black IPA next.
local didn't have Carafa II or III or Midnight Wheat.
did get some Debittered Black.

should I use debittered, or mail order one of the others?
Dehusked Carafa III is the brewery go to around here for a black IPA. I haven't brewed with black at all, but I imagine debittered would be the way to go if you're going that route.

mmblz 03-13-2012 03:56 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
I think I'll go for it. Reading a few things where it has worked for people. And worst case I just get a bit more flavor than I aim for...

mmblz 03-13-2012 10:23 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmblz (Post 1590183)
I think I'll go for it. Reading a few things where it has worked for people. And worst case I just get a bit more flavor than I aim for...
In the fermenter now. We'll see :)

cobra03 03-17-2012 12:51 AM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Has anyone ever heard of or tryed this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR_xF...ature=youtu.be
A co-worker of mine was telling me about this last night. Her father grows hops and to use up some of the extra he started putting them in a french press with a bottle of beer. i had never heard of this. Shes going to try and get me some of his extra hops. what i dont use to brew with i may have to try this out just to see what if anything it actually does.

replicant_argent 03-17-2012 08:47 AM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
I put a Milk Chocolate Stout into the fermenter last night. 15 gallons of beer in the primary, and my 2 Hearted clone finishing up dry hopping this weekend-ish. I am good for a while.

Mikes 03-19-2012 09:16 AM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
It was a good spring break here in Austin. I moved my brew equipment from my friends house to mine and bought a new March pump to recirculate my wort as well as transfer from the kettle to the fermenter. Also had my pot drilled out and fitted with a ball valve. If you are at all on the fence about getting a pump all I got to say is just do it. No more lifting the 30# pot with another 7 or 14 gallon of hot wort in it!!!! I have also noticed that I can cool much faster by using the pump to whirlpool the wort over my immersion coils. Did two 5 gal batches the past week and both dropped from 212 to 70 deg in 17 min...and you gotta remember our tap water here in Tx is always hot.

5 gal of AHS New Zealand Pale Ale will be kegged today
5 gal of AHS Summer Crisp IPA should be ready to keg by Thursday

mmblz 03-21-2012 08:19 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
for my next batch, trying to decide between:
Helles Bock
Smoked Hefeweizen
American Brown Ale

Salvelinus 03-22-2012 07:34 AM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmblz (Post 1596504)
for my next batch, trying to decide between:
Helles Bock
Smoked Hefeweizen
American Brown Ale
One of my favorite beer styles. Was in the plans but my basement has been getting out of the fermentation range for one of these. I can't hold the fermentation room below 55F if this 80F weather keeps up...

Going to do a galaxy/citra APA today. Wish I had more citra so I could put together a citra single hop but that isn't in the cards this go around. Just got a six pack of Zombie Dust (citra single hop) that is outstanding, need to figure out how to make it.

rack04 03-22-2012 12:03 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Hopefully tonight I will be able to keg 10 gallons of Kolsch and then it will lager it for at least a month. This weekend I will be starting a single hops experiment. Basically brewing the same 5 gallon batch with single hops and tasting the difference. I will start with citra and then move on to amarillo, falconer's flight, simcoe, and zythos. Trying to find a hop flaver I like in my pale ale recipe.

landhoney 03-22-2012 12:16 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Brewing for the second time this weekend on my new system, I'll try to remember to upload pictures, but here's a preview/hint: three 55 gallon Blichmann Boilermakers :)

kaisersozei 03-22-2012 03:37 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by landhoney (Post 1596976)
Brewing for the second time this weekend on my new system, I'll try to remember to upload pictures, but here's a preview/hint: three 55 gallon Blichmann Boilermakers :)
:dr

mmblz 03-22-2012 05:02 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
tasted my belgian stout tonight, it's been 13 days in the bottle.
still doesn't have a whole lot of carbonation.
is there hope that it will continue to carbonate if i give it time, or did I need more sugar (I used the standard 5oz)
flavor is not great but not awful.

Salvelinus 03-22-2012 06:09 PM
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How long did it sit in primary/secondary? Sometimes the beers that spend a lot of time in bulk aging take a longer time to carbonate.

I usually throw some s05 in beers that have sat for a while to get the carbonation finished up. It flocs out well and can handle the alcohol content of bigger beers.

mmblz 03-22-2012 06:55 PM
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I think it was something like 2 weeks in primary, 4 weeks in secondary. ABV calculation came in around 9%

Salvelinus 03-22-2012 08:27 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
That isn't too long, but given the ABV the yeast might be a little slow to work on new sugar. I wouldn't worry about it. That said I get super impatient waiting for beer and wind up drinking most of mine before I should. I don't practice what I preach.

kaisersozei 03-22-2012 08:39 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Yea, 13 days isn't really all that long. 5oz dextrose seems like a lot, so you should have no problems with getting it carbonated but give it a few more weeks at room temp.

mmblz 03-23-2012 07:53 AM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
awesome - i can wait.

kaisersozei 03-23-2012 09:14 AM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Question for the enlightened lager-ers:

How long will a lager yeast cake last in my primary fermenter, until I can pitch a new batch of wort on top of it?

I just racked a maibock into the secondary last night, and plan to brew up an Imperial Oktoberfest (or something) next weekend. Hate to waste all that great yeast slurry (WLP 833,) so I sealed up the primary and put her back in the fermentation chamber--currently at 52dg but will be dropping slowly as I bring the maibock down. It should sit pretty well for a week or so, right?

SvilleKid 03-23-2012 04:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kenstogie (Post 614176)
So did some searching on Homebrewtalk.com and found the following info for DME and LME

http://dmemart.com/ cheap and free shipping 11.99-12.99 per 3lb bag DME
www.austinhomebrew.com has good prices generally and has 7.99 flat rate shipping
www.morebeer.com free ship over 59

Here's a more complete list of online stores. I have not ordered from any of them but many form homebrewtalk have.

Online Homebrew Suppliers
Annapolis Homebrew Supply
Annapolis, MD

Austin Homebrew Supply
Austin, TX
Large selection of recipe kits available in extract, mini-mash, and all-grain versions, including many commercial clone kits. Equipment and ingredients also available. Flat shipping.

Beer-Wine.com
Woburn, Massachusetts
I used Beer-Wine.com this week and was very happy with the service and speed of the delivery. I put in a order for some liquid malt extract to test them out and 2 hours after I put in my order online I received a email that it had been shipped, received it on thursday. All this was with the cheapest shipping option. ~ crum

DeFalco's Home Wine & Beer Supply
Houston, TX

Freshops
Philomath, OR
"Purveyor of fine hops, hop oil, and hop rhizomes"

Homebrew Adventures
Charlotte, NC

Homebrewer's Outpost
Flagstaff, AZ

HopTech
Dublin, CA
Hop supplier recommended by HomeBrewTalk users

Michigan Brewing Company
Webbersville, MI

MoreBeer
Concord, CA
Free shipping for orders $59 and over

Midwest Supplies
Minneapolis, MN

Northern Brewer
St. Paul, MN

Williams Brewing Supply
San Leandro, CA
Anybody have any updates on mail-order and online suppliers for the ingredients? I have access to the equipment, but the local supplier is a 50 mile trip (one-way). At the price of gas and the mileage my old truck gets, that's a good $30 in gas costs alone. I'm thinking I can get the ingredients through the web cheaper and at less shipping costs than $30!

Thanks

BeerAdvocate 03-23-2012 05:00 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
http://www.brewmasterswarehouse.com

Salvelinus 03-23-2012 05:15 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaisersozei (Post 1597833)
Question for the enlightened lager-ers:

How long will a lager yeast cake last in my primary fermenter, until I can pitch a new batch of wort on top of it?

I just racked a maibock into the secondary last night, and plan to brew up an Imperial Oktoberfest (or something) next weekend. Hate to waste all that great yeast slurry (WLP 833,) so I sealed up the primary and put her back in the fermentation chamber--currently at 52dg but will be dropping slowly as I bring the maibock down. It should sit pretty well for a week or so, right?
I wouldn't hesitate to put beer on that yeast. They're resilient little buggers.

Mikey202 03-24-2012 10:41 AM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Goin' to see how our Belgian Dubble did in the first contest.

SteelCityBoy 03-24-2012 11:05 AM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Bottled up my Maibock a week ago, Baltic Porter is resting nicely in secondary fermenter, and just racked my Belgian Tripel. Last year my maibock came out amazing. I am really hoping that it is as good this year. Waiting is always so hard!!!

mmblz 03-26-2012 08:02 PM
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black ipa to secondary. tastes pretty good! color could be a little bit blacker but it's pretty dark.
anyone else have a septic system and get paranoid about dumping trub in it?
i've been throwing it outside before washing in the sink.

Mikey202 03-26-2012 08:58 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey202 (Post 1598824)
Goin' to see how our Belgian Dubble did in the first contest.
Didn't win any awards. Interested to see the scoring.

Mikey202 03-26-2012 10:56 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey202 (Post 1601020)
Didn't win any awards. Interested to see the scoring.
Overall score was a 28. That is the top of the good range. I think the brew needs to bottle condition for a few more months. The reciepe says that it peaks between 3-9 months. It only has 2 on it. It was a good learning experiance.

kaisersozei 03-27-2012 04:02 AM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmblz (Post 1600987)
black ipa to secondary. tastes pretty good! color could be a little bit blacker but it's pretty dark.
anyone else have a septic system and get paranoid about dumping trub in it?
i've been throwing it outside before washing in the sink.
No septic here, but I've read some folks use it in their compost or dump it around evergreens or other acidic-soil plants as fertilizer.

Mikes 03-27-2012 08:18 AM
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I do all of my washing out in the yard....Grass is always greener there ;o)

Salvelinus 03-27-2012 06:33 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Brewing the sour half of a Berliner Weiss this evening. 2 gallons of wort going onto a cup or two of pilsner malt for to get the lacto culture going. Also going to pitch some jolly pumpkin dregs into it.

Friday I'll brew 3 gallons of the same wort and pitch a kolsch yeast into it. When they both finish up I'll blend them over raspberries or something. Should be a killer lawnmower beer come end of July and August.

ktblunden 03-28-2012 02:29 PM
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I've got a blonde (AG) and an amber (extract) in primary right now. Probably bottle the blonde this weekend and I've got plans to brew a big IIPA on April 13th so I'll probably reuse the yeast cake on the amber for that one.

JohnnyKay5 03-31-2012 06:43 AM
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Starting my first home brew today. A little anxious with all this sanitization, hope i dont miss a little microbe

Salvelinus 03-31-2012 07:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyKay5 (Post 1604759)
Starting my first home brew today. A little anxious with all this sanitization, hope i dont miss a little microbe
Don't be. Do the best you can and pitch healthy yeast. You won't have any issues.

replicant_argent 03-31-2012 01:12 PM
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15 gallons transferred into secondary today.

kaisersozei 04-01-2012 10:30 AM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnykay5 (Post 1604759)
starting my first home brew today. A little anxious with all this sanitization, hope i dont miss a little microbe
high five!

JohnnyKay5 04-01-2012 01:41 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
so far so good. 21 hours from completion of racking to the primary, used liquid wyeast, fermenting like a champ

reggiebuckeye 04-01-2012 06:02 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Looking at taking the plunge when I get back from deployment. Debating how far I want to jump. Keg vs bottle. Extract vs all-grain. Decisions, decisions. Suggestions? Can I keg and bottle? I have about two months to make a decision.

Mikey202 04-01-2012 06:31 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey202 (Post 1601072)
Overall score was a 28. That is the top of the good range. I think the brew needs to bottle condition for a few more months. The reciepe says that it peaks between 3-9 months. It only has 2 on it. It was a good learning experiance.
2nd contest it scored a 33 1/2. That is in the very good range. Between the 2 contests, 3 out of the 4 judges said it was "hot". Which meant that it had, to much alcohol bite/ medicinal. I think that should mellow, with bottle aging.
Also, it had to much spice profile. Both of these are "out of style" for a Belgian Dubble.

I enjoyed it . Was cool to get feedback.

BeerAdvocate 04-01-2012 07:50 PM
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Brewed a Pale Ale with 4 ounces of Cascade hops, this weekend.

rack04 04-01-2012 08:14 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by reggiebuckeye (Post 1605829)
Looking at taking the plunge when I get back from deployment. Debating how far I want to jump. Keg vs bottle. Extract vs all-grain. Decisions, decisions. Suggestions? Can I keg and bottle? I have about two months to make a decision.
Reggie,

You can bottle from a keg. Don't think you need to get a beer gun. Search for a DIY counter pressure bottle filler.

replicant_argent 04-01-2012 08:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reggiebuckeye (Post 1605829)
Looking at taking the plunge when I get back from deployment. Debating how far I want to jump. Keg vs bottle. Extract vs all-grain. Decisions, decisions. Suggestions? Can I keg and bottle? I have about two months to make a decision.
Both.
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f35/we-n...eer-gun-24678/
Works slick.
Keg, then fill growlers or bottles as needed.

JohnnyKay5 04-01-2012 10:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by icantbejon (Post 1569200)

Are you a member of the James River Homebrewers Club?
Might have to look into this when i get up there.

reggiebuckeye 04-02-2012 08:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rack04 (Post 1605917)
Reggie,

You can bottle from a keg. Don't think you need to get a beer gun. Search for a DIY counter pressure bottle filler.
Quote:
Originally Posted by replicant_argent (Post 1605923)
Both.
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f35/we-n...eer-gun-24678/
Works slick.
Keg, then fill growlers or bottles as needed.
Thanks for the input. DIY? You obviously don't know who you're talking to. :D
I will look into working that out. I do have a bit of time. Guess I'll start extract. All-grain eventually.

kaisersozei 04-02-2012 10:37 AM
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Homebrew Herfest II on Saturday with icantbejon, Matt, and Doug (from Winston's Humidor fame,) all brewing up different beers:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showpo...postcount=1664

JohnnyKay5 was on remote with us from NC doing his first brew :banger

I brewed up a Rauchbier/Smoked Octoberfest which smelled incredible in the kettle, pitched it on top of a bock yeastcake and the thing took off almost immediately.

Ferg brewed a Kolsch, and at the end of the day we combined our second runnings into a smaller batch which I cooked up later that evening and pitched with some Bell's yeast. It's still not doing anything in the fermenter, so maybe that experiment will be a bust. It was one ugly looking beer anyway :D

Salvelinus 04-02-2012 10:37 AM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by reggiebuckeye (Post 1606266)
Thanks for the input. DIY? You obviously don't know who you're talking to. :D
I will look into working that out. I do have a bit of time. Guess I'll start extract. All-grain eventually.
I think that is the way to go. You can get great results with extract brewing. You'll get a handle on whether or not you enjoy the process. If you do, then look into all grain.

replicant_argent 04-02-2012 11:55 AM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by reggiebuckeye (Post 1606266)
Thanks for the input. DIY? You obviously don't know who you're talking to. :D
I will look into working that out. I do have a bit of time. Guess I'll start extract. All-grain eventually.
if you can buy the parts and slip the rubber stopper over the racking cane, then plug it into a pre-made hose.. You are good to go.

Salvelinus 04-02-2012 12:15 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey202 (Post 1605851)
2nd contest it scored a 33 1/2. That is in the very good range. Between the 2 contests, 3 out of the 4 judges said it was "hot". Which meant that it had, to much alcohol bite/ medicinal. I think that should mellow, with bottle aging.
Also, it had to much spice profile. Both of these are "out of style" for a Belgian Dubble.

I enjoyed it . Was cool to get feedback.
I'm surprised the scores differed by that much. I'm psyched to get some beers into competition next month after reading your comments. Be good to get some feedback.

Hot alcohols (fusels generally) can be formed from fermenting too warm and not pitching enough yeast. Reading up on Belgian brewing it seems like a lot of the breweries start fermentation cool to keep fusels down and then let the temps ramp up later in the process.

reggiebuckeye 04-02-2012 01:58 PM
Re: Homebrewers - Whats in the fermeter?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Salvelinus (Post 1606348)
I think that is the way to go. You can get great results with extract brewing. You'll get a handle on whether or not you enjoy the process. If you do, then look into all grain.
That's the plan.

Quote:
Originally Posted by replicant_argent (Post 1606383)
if you can buy the parts and slip the rubber stopper over the racking cane, then plug it into a pre-made hose.. You are good to go.
So, super simple? EXCELLENT!!


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