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mosesbotbol 11-14-2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by King James (Post 68645)
My neighbor really enjoys red wine.

I was wondering what a nice mid-range bottle would be to get for Christmas?

Ask what her favorites of current are and go from there. If she drinks alot of Italian wines, get her a nicer bottle of Italian wine than she is drinking... Same for any style. You have to know what she likes before you can do anything.

It just sucks to spend some good money on wine and then the person does not enjoy that style. One of my friends is big into wine, but does not like Pinot Noir, so giving him a Burgundy is waste of money.

King James 11-14-2008 11:39 AM

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I will try to ask her... I think she enjoys all kinds but I'm not certain. As far as I know if it is red and wine she will drink it haha.... but I will try to get more information. I may add that I know absolutely nothing about wine.

rizzle 11-14-2008 11:51 AM

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Awesome thread. I'm hoping to learn a little bit over time, similar to my cigar journey.

I typically prefer reds and my wife has been a Chardonnay only drinker for years. I've recently been able to get her to join me in a glass of red, don't know if it is due to her pregnancy or what, but I'm not complaining.

We had a friend turn us on to Bogle Phantom recently and we've really been enjoying it. Its a mix of 55% Petite Sirah, 42% Zinfandel, and 3% Mourvedre.
About $18 or so a bottle. Maybe not a classic--don't know, don't care. But we like it. And it is a red that I can enjoy with my wife. That alone makes it good to me.

Any of you guys had that one?

aldukes 11-14-2008 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 68785)
Maybe not a classic--don't know, don't care. But we like it.

Thats all that matters.

Just dont drink yellow tail :ss

mosesbotbol 11-14-2008 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 68785)
I typically prefer reds and my wife has been a Chardonnay only drinker for years. I've recently been able to get her to join me in a glass of red, don't know if it is due to her pregnancy or what, but I'm not complaining.

Try the 2005 Louis Jadot Burgundy. It's around $12 a bottle and you both may enjoy that one. Serve it very slightly chilled.

rizzle 11-14-2008 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 68865)
Try the 2005 Louis Jadot Burgundy. It's around $12 a bottle and you both may enjoy that one. Serve it very slightly chilled.

Will do. Thanks moses. :tu:

Rockestone 11-14-2008 02:21 PM

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My favorite wine at the moment is the Estancia Merlot. Affordable and absolutely drinkable!!

SmokinApe 11-14-2008 03:56 PM

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what's the deal with yellow tail?

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Originally Posted by aldukes (Post 68795)
Thats all that matters.

Just dont drink yellow tail :ss


Vitis 11-14-2008 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokinApe (Post 69151)
what's the deal with yellow tail?

:pu Nuff Said

~Vitis

SmokinApe 11-14-2008 07:06 PM

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Doesn't it get positive reviews? People recommend it all the time...

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Originally Posted by Vitis (Post 69166)
:pu Nuff Said

~Vitis


SmokinApe 11-14-2008 07:07 PM

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Maybe it is the Macanudo of wine?

Vitis 11-14-2008 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokinApe (Post 69423)
Doesn't it get positive reviews? People recommend it all the time...

I have tried it a few times and always find it very sweet while red wine is usualy fermented dry. Made for the coca cola crowd. I think you can find a lot better and more interesting wine for the $$ or a few $$ more. On the other hand, taste is subjective and you should always drink what you like.

~Vitis

SmokinApe 11-15-2008 10:50 AM

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Thanks for the perspective....

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Originally Posted by Vitis (Post 69689)
I have tried it a few times and always find it very sweet while red wine is usualy fermented dry. Made for the coca cola crowd. I think you can find a lot better and more interesting wine for the $$ or a few $$ more. On the other hand, taste is subjective and you should always drink what you like.

~Vitis


aldukes 11-15-2008 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Vitis (Post 69689)
I have tried it a few times and always find it very sweet while red wine is usualy fermented dry. Made for the coca cola crowd. I think you can find a lot better and more interesting wine for the $$ or a few $$ more. On the other hand, taste is subjective and you should always drink what you like.

~Vitis

well put.

Mark C 11-16-2008 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokinApe (Post 69423)
Doesn't it [yellowtail] get positive reviews? People recommend it all the time...

I recommend it all the time to people who think they don't like wine. I find it's an easy introduction to wine and have never found anyone who 'doesn't like wine' who didn't enjoy Yellowtail. And that opens the door to everything else.

My theory is a lot of people are hesitant to try wine for mental reasons, rather than taste, and Yellowtail helps them to think 'hey, not all wine is bad, maybe I should try some more'.

I think the Macanudo reference is a good one. Yellowtail ain't a great wine, but it ain't a bad wine. Same with Mac, it ain't a great cigar, but it ain't bad either. It's not very interesting, but it may get a person started down the slope.

I still think Yellowtail is fairly representative of New World Shiraz, but I'll admit I haven't tried many. For those of you who hate Yellowtail, can you give me a few ideas of other New World Shiraz that you DO like? I need to restock my wine fridge anyway and I'd love some advice.

mosesbotbol 11-16-2008 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark C (Post 70952)
For those of you who hate Yellowtail, can you give me a few ideas of other New World Shiraz that you DO like? I need to restock my wine fridge anyway and I'd love some advice.

Torbreck "Woodcutters" Shiraz Barossa Valley is an excellent choice for under $20. They also make other Shiraz at different price points up to $150+.

aldukes 11-16-2008 09:21 AM

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I usually stick to shiraz from Marquis Philips D'arenberg and The Winners Tank.
Marquis Philips #9 Shiraz is about 30 a bottle, but well worth it.
Woop Woop actually puts out a decent product for about 10 bucks.

aldukes 11-18-2008 09:39 AM

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Thanksgiving wine- what is everyone drinking?

Only 4 of this year with my sister going to her in-laws. My dad doesn't drink wine so 2-3 bottles will be more than enough this year. As of right now we'll be having:

2007 August Briggs Russian River Chardonnay
2006 Melville Clone 115 Indigine Pinot Noir
or
2006 Whetstone Wine Cellars Pleasant Hill Vineyard Pinot Noir

My mom leans towards just-sweet German Gewurztraminer and Riesling, I think she'll enjoy the change of pace.

Vitis 11-18-2008 10:00 AM

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It's such a pain in the a$$ to travel with wine these days, so will buy a mixed case when I hit the ground. Sucks. :mad: Pre 9/11 I always brought a couple of heavy hitters with me. On the upside, my cousin collects and cellars european beers, so I always get to try interesting stuff that I know very litte about. :)


~Vitis

aldukes 11-18-2008 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Vitis (Post 74498)
It's such a pain in the a$$ to travel with wine these days, so will buy a mixed case when I hit the ground. Sucks. :mad: Pre 9/11 I always brought a couple of heavy hitters with me. On the upside, my cousin collects and cellars european beers, so I always get to try interesting stuff that I know very litte about. :)


~Vitis

rumor has it- this will be lifted in early '09.

Vitis 11-18-2008 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by aldukes (Post 74506)
rumor has it- this will be lifted in early '09.

Cheers to that! :chr

aldukes 11-24-2008 09:31 AM

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Picked up some bottles this weekend. 3 for drinking and 2 put away.

To drink:

2006 Bogle Petite Sirah- North Coast, CA
2005 Chateau Larrivaux- Haut Medoc, Bordeaux, France
2005 Hugel Pinot Blanc Cuvee Les Amours - Alsace, France

To put away:

2006 Whetstone JonBoat Pinot Noir, Sonoma Coast, CA
2005 Volta Cabernet Sauvignon -Napa Valley, CA

SmokinApe 11-24-2008 11:22 AM

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"2006 Bogle Petite Sirah- North Coast, CA " I had a bottle of this in my hand today... I went with a Malbec instead...

SmokinApe 11-24-2008 12:29 PM

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I have tried a few more wines over the last few days...

The port and the Salvestrin were pretty good, the Folio seemed like run of the mill swill...

aldukes 11-24-2008 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokinApe (Post 84665)
"2006 Bogle Petite Sirah- North Coast, CA " I had a bottle of this in my hand today... I went with a Malbec instead...

why not get both? :ss

For the price I try to keep a bottle or two for spur of the moment drinking. Its very easy to drink and really food friendly.

SmokinApe 11-24-2008 02:15 PM

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I almost got both but the cart was pretty full...

mosesbotbol 11-24-2008 02:15 PM

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Typically, I like either a mature Burgundy or Madeira with turkey. No idea on which ones I am going to open.

Vitis 11-24-2008 04:19 PM

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Agreed with the Burgundy Moses. Pinot and turkey is a great match.

~Vitis

novasurf 11-25-2008 04:30 PM

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2004 Stolpman Vineyards Syrah, grilled ribeye, gouda mashed potatoes

novasurf 11-27-2008 05:45 AM

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T-Day is 05 Williamette Pinot Noir (Oregon)

Cigary 11-27-2008 02:45 PM

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On a trip to Italy recently the wife and I picked up some great wine from the Varrimista Winery,,this is the link http://en.spazioitalia.com/fine-food...oppi-2005.html

Simply incredible and the tour was amazing!

mosesbotbol 11-27-2008 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitis (Post 85122)
Agreed with the Burgundy Moses. Pinot and turkey is a great match.

Tonight's wine line up was pretty good this year!

Patrick LeSec Chambertin Clos de Beze Grand Cru 2000
Dominque Laurent Latricieres-Chambertin Grand Cru 2000
Patrick LeSec Chambertin Clos de Beze Grand Cru 2004
Ramos Pinto Vintage Port 1985

Cigar line up was an LGC MdO #2

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...l/photo-24.jpg

Vitis 11-27-2008 07:16 PM

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BOOM! Nice lineup Moses. A Latricieres and 2 Clos de Beze. Thats a lot to be thankful for.

~Vitis

mosesbotbol 11-27-2008 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitis (Post 90082)
BOOM! Nice lineup Moses. A Latricieres and 2 Clos de Beze. Thats a lot to be thankful for.

~Vitis

You'd fall off your chair if you knew what I got them for :r

Thanks, I do (and we all) have alot to be thankful for. The grass is not often greener. Having family, friends, health, and smile can go long way. Some Chambertin does hurt either, lol...

Scottw 11-27-2008 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 90147)
You'd fall off your chair if you knew what I got them for :r

Thanks, I do (and we all) have alot to be thankful for. The grass is not often greener. Having family, friends, health, and smile can go long way. Some Chambertin does hurt either, lol...

Well Stated Brother!!!

rizzle 11-28-2008 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 68865)
Try the 2005 Louis Jadot Burgundy. It's around $12 a bottle and you both may enjoy that one. Serve it very slightly chilled.

moses, this one?

http://bp0.blogger.com/_z0MJ0ofU-Pk/...arties+050.jpg

mosesbotbol 11-28-2008 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 90578)

Yes, that looks like it. Make sure to let it breathe for a couple of hours if possible.

rizzle 11-28-2008 10:21 AM

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Thanks brother.

aldukes 11-28-2008 11:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 90147)
You'd fall off your chair if you knew what I got them for :r

Thanks, I do (and we all) have alot to be thankful for. The grass is not often greener. Having family, friends, health, and smile can go long way. Some Chambertin does hurt either, lol...

Where is this magicial wine shop? Moses, you must give up these sources.

mosesbotbol 11-28-2008 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aldukes (Post 90738)
Where is this magicial wine shop? Moses, you must give up these sources.


You mean for the $50 Grand Cru's?

Scottw 11-28-2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 90798)
You mean for the $50 Grand Cru's?

$50????? Holy Sh*t what a price!

aldukes 11-28-2008 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 90798)
You mean for the $50 Grand Cru's?

:fl:fl:fl

RichardW 11-28-2008 05:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 90055)
Tonight's wine line up was pretty good this year!

Patrick LeSec Chambertin Clos de Beze Grand Cru 2000
Dominque Laurent Latricieres-Chambertin Grand Cru 2000
Patrick LeSec Chambertin Clos de Beze Grand Cru 2004
Ramos Pinto Vintage Port 1985

Cigar line up was an LGC MdO #2

[snip of a great photo]


Nice selection, Moses :salute:

Bruzee 11-28-2008 08:51 PM

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I love wine, and I am very partial to California wine, and specifically Paso Robles or Napa Valley. I am, however, no connoisseur by any means. I took some photos of my favorite California wines, and all are vere reasonably priced. Blackstone is carried in most grocery store around here, and can be had at about $8-$15 per bottle.

Blackstone Winery - Napa Valley - One of my all time favorite winerys
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...e/IMG_3571.jpg

Another Blackstone - Sonoma County
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...e/IMG_3572.jpg

J. Lohr - Paso Robles
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...e/IMG_3573.jpg

Wild Horse - Paso Robles
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...e/IMG_3574.jpg

Eagle Castle - Paso Robles
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...e/IMG_3575.jpg

Matchbook - Dunnigan Hills
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...e/IMG_3577.jpg

Firestone - Paso Robles
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...e/IMG_3580.jpg

Crosspoint - Monterry County
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...e/IMG_3581.jpg

Bargetto - Santa Cruz
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...e/IMG_3584.jpg

Bruzee 12-02-2008 03:56 AM

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Man.... I think I killed this thread....

aldukes 12-02-2008 11:26 AM

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Just purchased 2 bottles:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/...051c74.jpg?v=0

2006 Bodegas El Nido Clio- paid less than $40 per bottle.

novasurf 12-04-2008 06:59 PM

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05 Montevina Terra D'Oro (Amador County) Zinfandel

Vitis 12-05-2008 10:46 PM

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Drinking an 05 DaMa Cab from Columbia Valley tonight matched with a ribeye and then a dip5. Delicious as expected.

~Vitis

mosesbotbol 12-06-2008 10:18 AM

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We had a birthday party at my place last night and had the following:

1975 Taylor Vintage Port
1996 Clos de Brusquieres CdP
1987 Ch. Pichon Longueville
1985 Ramos Pinto Vintage Port

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...l/photo-25.jpg

Great night and inbetween the wine to port, we to a latino restaurant and ate like chazers. No cigars, but am getting ready to light up a Monarch right now.

Mark C 12-06-2008 11:25 AM

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I've seen you post those 'chopped top' port bottles before (can't remember the lingo), why do that for the bottle on the left, and not the one on the right?


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