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It's not the system design so much as the poor quality control. The draft hole is way too high up the bowl and numerous emails to Peterson to request some sort of confirmation that this is a defect. Their lack of response irks me.

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au contrair (sp?), just like any pipe, do not disassemble while smoking.

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So, the pretty silver fittings are simply for aesthetics? Do they have any functional benefit?

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I am no Expert. Nor do I even have a Military Mount, However over the years that type of pipe is said to be ok and built for being removed while smoking. The stem's tenon on this type of pipe is tapered to provide a friction fit, and the shank almost always being reinforced with a metal band. I remember seeing a few people in my old town where I used to smoke at a Tobacco bar, Most have closed now because of Laws. They would remove the stem while smoking and said wasn't a good idea, I was then Educated with its use. Looking it up again to make sure they were not pulling my leg I see in the Wiki for Pipes under cleaning. It talks about that type and says yes it is designed for being removed while smoking/warm. you can find that info here http://pipedia.org/wiki/Pipe_Packing...ing_techniques

In my last post I had stated that I couldn't get a pipe cleaner in my Savinelli 622 KS to the bowl while smoking however right now I am smoking some Mac Baren Cube Silver in this pipe and using a churchwarden pipe cleaner, with the tip slightly bent up after I ran the pipe to the reservoir turned it while slowly moving it and it did make it into the air hole and to the bowl.... WOW. My Favorite pipe for sure. I love everything about this pipe. Funny thing is the person that sold it, Did at a very cheap price because he thought there was a bad drill/draft/smoking no good. IT smokes perfect for me. Without drying this tobacco in most of my other pipes would cause bite before 1/2 the bowl is smoked. You can see with the picture below that it does show that it was more of a bite-able smoke from how dirty the pipe cleaner was. You can see how much extra moisture is on the tip compared to when i smoked the Peterson blend. I want to have it known as well that the Pipe was cleaned very well before I packed the pipe with the Mac Baren tobacco so it is for sure 100% from this tobacco. Where the last pipe cleaner when cleaned was white when done. Plus the post before the bowl was almost finished before I needed to run the pipe cleaner, This time was just under 1/2 the bowl and this blend is much heavier in the Moisture and extra tars..
This was again in relation to my last post where all pipes that are like the Peterson System pipes are not all bad IMO. This is the first pipe of all the pipes I own with the system type res that I have been able to get the cleaner into the bowl and honestly blows my mind.

James
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Already posted but not sure if you seen so I thought i would post the same link to you. It is a little the way down under cleaning but says it was designed to be removed

http://pipedia.org/wiki/Pipe_Packing...ing_techniques

James

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I plan to get a Sav next, James. I hear (read) good things. The pete smokes great until the bowl reaches the draft hole. I'll try to improve it with mud.

Also think I need to clean more frequently. That last bowl in the great Dane church warden was nasty. I just cleaned it and like 10 q-tips came out of the shank completely black. It took about 15 q-tips before they came out clean. I'm sure this doesn't help.

As for the bite issues, they seem to be getting better. I still feel a little sting and rawness, but it's negligible for the most part.

I'll have to try some of the HH tobacco. Thanks for the recommendation.

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Thanks James! :tu

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Yes, it CAN be removed while warm, but it still is not a good idea. I have seen military mount pipes crack, even under the metal. Remember, even metal expands with heat.

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A lot of pipe smokers find that aromatics can give a roaring case to tongue bite. I find myself in that group. Even the mildest aro frays my tongue. On the other hand, I prefer full bodied English and Balkans. Dunhill Nightcap is superb and smokes cool with no tongue bite. Virginias also can bite if pushed. Remember to sip lightly and the reward is awesome!
BTW, skip the Billy Budd for a cigar leaf blend - gives you the zacklies! :tu

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Oh yeah LOL I do have 3 pipes with the Military style bits One of the reason I love my Omega's so much. Never had my shanks warm or hot. But understand isn't a good idea. Lucky my stem to shank connection is far past the Briar.
James

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I am happy to report I have not had any tongue bite issues in over a week. I think I finally figured this out! :)

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I know this is an older post - just curious how the 307 is doing for you. I also have a 307 and love that pipe! Have to be careful with it though because it is such a large bowl and open draw that you can easily smoke it too aggressively. Gotta love those P-Lips! :tu

You probably figured this out by now - Virginias age the best of the various pipe tobacco types and do so gracefully and smoothly. A nicely aged Virginia of 7-10 years likely has no bite at all and should be smooth and creamy with superb flavors! :dr Look at Wessex Brigade for a high quality sleeper that is second to none in quality. Put it away and forget it for about 5 years or so. :dr

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I like the 307 well enough, but I don't really care for the p-lip actually. I think I may try to get a regular stem for it.

Neither of my petersons smoke anywhere near as well as my Savinelli does though. Aside from the draft hole being kinda high off the bottom, I don't really know why this would be?