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Originally Posted by Emjaysmash (Post 1607469)

Like has been said in probably every post before mine, "different strokes, for different folks."

I can understand where you are coming from Todd. At times we share the same tastes and 100% agree on flavors and subtleties (anejos, padrons, and coronados for example) and others we disagree (illusiones).

Is it a novice vs. veteran issue? Is it an issue of taste buds? Is it because you've been smoking longer than I have been alive and are just stuck in a nostalgic rut?

It may be all of them. Personally I think the best part of cigar smoking is the variety. There is literally a cigar out there for everyone. So you don't like LPs enough to buy them all up? Fine, here's a Coronado Double Toro I know you love. (Wish I actually had one to give to you! ;) )

Cigars are hyped for many reasons. Whether it be due to reputation of the brand/manufacturer, a good marketing scheme, the the cigar itself is actually everything everyone says it is; the hype is often muddled.

Don't worry about "missing something". We all miss the flavors our tongues weren't meant to taste. As long as you give it a shot you've done your utmost for trying.

Anyway, I'm rambling now. In short: YES it is you, but don't sweat it. Life's too short to worry about it. :)

Shalom.

MJ, you have I have shared a bunch of cigars together. As you said, sometimes we agree. In fact, I'd say more often than not.

I know that my taste buds are different, and that I need to enjoy what I am smoking, and smoke what I enjoy.

I am not worried about it, but I am curious about it though. I just wanted to start a thread to discuss it a bit to see if there might be a reason for it.

I wonder if there might be correlations to other things? Do people that like hot, spicy, burn-your-mouth-out food, also like the stronger cigars?

I cannot speak for others, but I am one of those who love that type of spice. In fact, I find there are things I can eat that cause others to ask, "Are you really enjoying that? How can you even feel your tongue, must less taste anything?" And yet, I am not a big fan of Cains, LFD DLs, and some of the other kick-your-@$$-strong cigars.

And yet, there are some cigars out there that others think are too strong and/or spicy which I just love.

I don't know the correlation, but I'd like to figure it out.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

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Originally Posted by RevSmoke (Post 1607955)

I wonder if there might be correlations to other things? Do people that like hot, spicy, burn-your-mouth-out food, also like the stronger cigars?

I cannot speak for others, but I am one of those who love that type of spice. In fact, I find there are things I can eat that cause others to ask, "Are you really enjoying that? How can you even feel your tongue, must less taste anything?" And yet, I am not a big fan of Cains, LFD DLs, and some of the other kick-your-@$$-strong cigars.

That is crazy Todd...I am just the opposite. I love those strong peppery/spicy sticks, yet, cannot stand to have food with table pepper. :D

I've never smoked a Liga Privada!

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Originally Posted by RevSmoke (Post 1607955)

And I think that makes you different than a good number of cigar smokers. Some people like strong spicy cigars for the simple sake that they are strong and spicy. (And one-dimensional).

I'm sure there are correlations to what our food preferences are to what our cigar/alcohol preferences are.

Here's one question for you: have you ever had food that may have been very spicy/hot but didn't care for it because of the flavor? I would venture to say you have.

Rev, I for one love spicy foods. So if you are taking notes, I also enjoy a full bodied spicy cigar with a single malt scotch (neat).

I like that term "Lazy Blending" that's sort of my feelings as well. I don't want to say all the new stuff hitting the market falls into this category but..... lets be honest a A LOT of the stuff these days is centered around a pretty band/box and a ton of hype and being a "powerhouse" smoke then a quality smoke. I've only been smoking premiums since around 2000 before that it was jewel wood tips and philly blunts when I went fishing or camping. I can tell you now most honestly and truthfully I have $1. smokes ill reach for any day of the week over any Viaje, LP, RP or Illusion.

Id like to coin another term the "Bandwagon Blend" I kid you not I have thrown my money at vendors for stuff that I had to literally choke down and lie to myself about enjoying, I have no explanation why? other then "Everyone else seems to like them" so I should to.. (Is it me?)

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I have smoked an LP no.9 that blew me away, it had a couple years on it and paired amazingly with a cup of coffee. I don't think I will ever forget that experience. I also smoked an Lp no.9 ROTT and was extremely underwhelmed. I have smoked a couple Viajes and Tats that I thought where okay and I have smoked a couple that I really enjoyed.
I have only smoked one FFP and it was ROTT delicious. I really loved the L40 I smoked, but yes it was one dimensional, a good one dimensional though. I have been smoking a lot of CCs lately and I find them to be far more complex and subtle than hyped NCs. I am falling so in love with CCs it is gonna be hard to go back to even the FFPs and others I have resting. I was extremely underwhelmed during Xmas when I smoked a Holiday Blend. I do not want a strong cigar, I want a delicious one but thought up until recently I couldn't have one without the other. I do not want a nic fix, just flavor.

I have begun to find hype sticks to be hit or miss, and for the price I can't afford the misses.

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1608040)

I really loved the L40 I smoked, but yes it was one dimensional, a good one dimensional though. I have been smoking a lot of CCs lately and I find them to be far more complex and subtle than hyped NCs.

I agree 100%. Liga Privada in general doesn't seem to be overly complex, but they do pack a ton of flavor. The Number 9 to me doesn't seem overly complex, but the one dimension it has, to me, is absolutely perfect. I'm in love with them and wish I could afford more.

I adore the Feral Pig. It was like a stronger LP9 in a lot of ways. But as others have said, it's still not very complex just bold. That's not a bad thing, expecially if the one dimension (or to be fair, few dimensions) there is (are) what you are looking for.

But even a Liga Privada fan boy like myself has to admit that you'll never find in any LP the complexities found in a Cohiba Robusto, for example.

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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1607307)

I see we both need cigar secretaries.

I'll be your cigar secretary - send your stash over here and I'll, er, inventory it for you. Yeah, that's the word I'm looking for. :D

Seems like this topic comes up from time to time in different variations. I never got the Tat bug. I tossed an expensive LP after an inch once but I like the Undercrown. I never caught the Padron bug but I like most of them. I never understand why some cigars are popular. Same for a lot of CCs. If I find one I like and it's consistent, I'm a fan for life of that cigar, but not the whole brand.

I like all cigars. UnderCrown is pretty good. IMHO. Just smoked an Alex Bradley-Black Market. Really good. Last night, I smoked an old (well aged) Pinar 3000. OUTSTANDING! But, they don't make it any more. Maybe the age? It was smooth and very complex flavors. Liga 9 is a very interesting cigar to me.

This is all about the fun with trying the different cigars introduced for our enjoyment. Some meet our expectations. Some don't. Enjoy the ride!

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1607979)

That is crazy Todd...I am just the opposite. I love those strong peppery/spicy sticks, yet, cannot stand to have food with table pepper. :D

I love my pepper. And when it is incredibly spice, I can still make out subtle nuances of flavor. I don't like heat just for the sake of heat.

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Originally Posted by Emjaysmash (Post 1607987)

And I think that makes you different than a good number of cigar smokers. Some people like strong spicy cigars for the simple sake that they are strong and spicy. (And one-dimensional).

I don't mind a one-dimensional cigar, as long as it is a dimension I enjoy -AND- I don't have to enjoy it for an hour and a half. A good one-dimension in a petite corona can be an incredible smoke.

I'm sure there are correlations to what our food preferences are to what our cigar/alcohol preferences are.

Here's one question for you: have you ever had food that may have been very spicy/hot but didn't care for it because of the flavor? I would venture to say you have.

I am sure that I have, though at the present I cannot think of one (later thought, fried spicy bananas in LA). One of my favorite simple snacks is Colby cheese melted on tortilla chips, and each chip gets a Jalapeno slice.

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Originally Posted by Ogre (Post 1607993)

Rev, I for one love spicy foods. So if you are taking notes, I also enjoy a full bodied spicy cigar with a single malt scotch (neat).

I like some full-bodied spicy cigars, but I want something more than just the one-dimensional stong/spice. It needs to develop and have some complexity.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

Todd

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Originally Posted by Ogre (Post 1607993)

Rev, I for one love spicy foods. So if you are taking notes, I also enjoy a full bodied spicy cigar with a single malt scotch (neat).

I can't drink neat scotch with a cigar anymore. It seems to drown out the tastes of the cigar I'm smoking.