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NCRadioMan 02-28-2012 11:18 AM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
You wanna know why? You really wanna know why I hate Gurkha so much?

Ok.

Gurkha destroyed my life. My family's life and is even responsible for my home being torn down! Plus, they are on the path to world domination!


I HATE GURKHA SO MUCH! :su

Stephen 02-28-2012 11:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1574505)
No pukin' Nate, just a good chug of Gurkha antidote. :lr



http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...og3/pnoon1.jpg

Ok, I have to ask...Who's the guy that looks like he owns a cargo van, and is just itching for the opportunity to, "show you something..."?

No disrespect, but my word that's a creepy look on their face.:r

lenguamor 02-28-2012 11:39 AM

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I dislike Gurkha cigars because they taste bad.

I despise Gurkha's business model of "style over substance" and I'm appalled that, in a world where there are few remaining locally-owned hardware stores because people prefer to shop in Home Depots, people are choosing Gurkhas over better cigars.

Smoke what you like, blah blah blah...but if it's a Gurkha, you're doing it wrong.

lenguamor 02-28-2012 11:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1574711)
Ok, I have to ask...Who's the guy that looks like he owns a cargo van, and is just itching for the opportunity to, "show you something..."?

No disrespect, but my word that's a creepy look on their face.:r

Peter's van:
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...-Candy-Van.jpg

Stephen 02-28-2012 12:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lenguamor (Post 1574720)

It's not Peter; it's the gentleman standing to the left of Peter, longingly looking upon the hog, with this no doubt going through his mind...
http://image.shutterstock.com/displa...t-66532477.jpg

icehog3 02-28-2012 12:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1574699)
It looks like Peter is offering you a NUB to help with the Gurkha pain:r

Nope...believe that is a glass-top Cohibo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1574711)
Ok, I have to ask...Who's the guy that looks like he owns a cargo van, and is just itching for the opportunity to, "show you something..."?

No disrespect, but my word that's a creepy look on their face.:r

That is Stewart (tech-ninja)...and he always looks at me with love in his eyes. :r

Zanaspus 02-28-2012 01:37 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
I've actually tried about 20 Ghurkas to try to be fair to the brand. 18 of them were just plain bad. 1 was pretty good, and the Black Dragon Robusto could hold its own with any boutique cigar IMHO. To further add to the annoyance factor, the have 75 different cigars at any point in time. Chances are, if you find one you like, it'll be gone before you know it.

Rocky Patel (lots of crap to work through) and Viaje (I don't have the energy to get one of the 3 boxes for each release) annoy me almost as much.

jjirons69 02-28-2012 03:40 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1574711)
Ok, I have to ask...Who's the guy that looks like he owns a cargo van, and is just itching for the opportunity to, "show you something..."?

No disrespect, but my word that's a creepy look on their face.:r

That's one of the nicest, most giving brothers I've come across with my cigar adventures. He's a blast to be around. Granted he looks a lot better with hair and without so much facial hair. That is a hilarious picture of Stew! He would certainly laugh at your comment - my thoughts are he was going for that look.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1/P1040985.jpg

And...

My take on Gurkha. They seem to be really proud of something I can't figure out. Reminds me of a peacock with the showy varieties and proud pricing, but in the end, it's a useless bird not fit to eat. Hell, I don't even like the bands. Reminds me of Hitler too much.

Volusianator 02-28-2012 03:56 PM

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What if it becomes "evident" that it's his favorite cigar of all time? Is he then wrong or possibly is it that he may have different tastes than you?

To the OP, don't worry about the hate on any cigar, you smoke it, if you like it, great, if not, great. One of the reasons that there is more than one cigar company and that these companies make more than one cigar is that people tastes change. Do I like Gurkhas, no, I don't, do I bash on them, no I don't, not do I bash Acids or any other sticks that most find unpleasant. My favorite cigar may be your worst, your favorite may be my worst, and we're both right. In the end, smoke what you like and don't give two shits about what anybody else says.



Quote:

Originally Posted by 44stampede (Post 1574126)
Smoke a few more. It'll become more evident.


icehog3 02-28-2012 04:21 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lenguamor (Post 1574717)
Smoke what you like, blah blah blah...but if it's a Gurkha, you're doing it wrong.

:lr :lr

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjirons69 (Post 1574925)
That's (Stewart) one of the nicest, most giving brothers I've come across with my cigar adventures. He's a blast to be around. Granted he looks a lot better with hair and without so much facial hair. That is a hilarious picture of Stew! He would certainly laugh at your comment - my thoughts are he was going for that look.

Absolutely....made a friend for life within the first 5 minutes of the first time I met him, at MegaMoB I in Chicago.

dwoodward 02-28-2012 06:10 PM

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I have smoked a lot of Gurkhas, some have been bad, some have been good. Personally overall I like most Gurkhas.

The Gurkha haters mostly have only had 1 or 2 of their sticks that happened to be bad sticks, the other majority don't like that Gurkha has like 500 different sticks and MSRP on them all is like 10 dollars a stick or higher, yet can be found anywhere for very cheap. It's all their marketing ploy, call their stick a 20 dollar stick and put it on "sale" somewhere for 3 dollars a stick and people jump without thinking. TBH, it's marketing genius in my eyes, but it puts a lot of people off too.

44stampede 02-28-2012 06:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Volusianator (Post 1574932)
What if it becomes "evident" that it's his favorite cigar of all time? Is he then wrong or possibly is it that he may have different tastes than you?

To the OP, don't worry about the hate on any cigar, you smoke it, if you like it, great, if not, great. One of the reasons that there is more than one cigar company and that these companies make more than one cigar is that people tastes change. Do I like Gurkhas, no, I don't, do I bash on them, no I don't, not do I bash Acids or any other sticks that most find unpleasant. My favorite cigar may be your worst, your favorite may be my worst, and we're both right. In the end, smoke what you like and don't give two shits about what anybody else says.

He posed the question, I answered. THought that was the purpose of the forum.

Because I say something doesn't make it "the final word". Just contributing my:2

mmblz 02-28-2012 06:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dwoodward (Post 1575049)
The Gurkha haters mostly have only had 1 or 2 of their sticks that happened to be bad sticks, the other majority don't like that Gurkha has like 500 different sticks and MSRP on them all is like 10 dollars a stick or higher, yet can be found anywhere for very cheap.

Unfortunately, I have had quite a few different Gurkhas.


btw, what is an "other majority" :r

pnoon 02-28-2012 06:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dwoodward (Post 1575049)
I have smoked a lot of Gurkhas, some have been bad, some have been good. Personally overall I like most Gurkhas.

The Gurkha haters mostly have only had 1 or 2 of their sticks that happened to be bad sticks, the other majority don't like that Gurkha has like 500 different sticks and MSRP on them all is like 10 dollars a stick or higher, yet can be found anywhere for very cheap. It's all their marketing ploy, call their stick a 20 dollar stick and put it on "sale" somewhere for 3 dollars a stick and people jump without thinking. TBH, it's marketing genius in my eyes, but it puts a lot of people off too.

Sorry. I call bull$hit.

thecatch83 02-28-2012 06:53 PM

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They are mass produced goat turds! I would almost rather smoke an Acid.....almost!

chippewastud79 02-28-2012 07:00 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dwoodward (Post 1575049)

The Gurkha haters mostly have only had 1 or 2 of their sticks that happened to be bad sticks, the other majority don't like that Gurkha has like 500 different sticks and MSRP on them all is like 10 dollars a stick or higher, yet can be found anywhere for very cheap.

Or maybe Gurkha haters hate Gurkhas based on personal experiences of multiple sticks. But I am sure you know most people's experience with any given brand. :rolleyes:

Hem 02-28-2012 07:15 PM

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I think we ALL have fallen to the hype at one point or another. I myself have about 12 sticks in my humi from my FIRST cigar purchase. I wanted the "Rolls Royce" of cigars to impress my buddies! I WILL smoke every last one of them..eventually.

thecatch83 02-28-2012 07:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hem (Post 1575126)
I think we ALL have fallen to the hype at one point or another. I myself have about 12 sticks in my humi from my FIRST cigar purchase. I wanted the "Rolls Royce" of cigars to impress my buddies! I WILL smoke every last one of them..eventually.

Might as well go down with the ship :tu

Classic!!!

REV 02-28-2012 08:04 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
ive had a few gurkhas in bundles and samplers. color me not impressed. id rather have an acid...

dwoodward 02-28-2012 09:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1575087)
Sorry. I call bull$hit.

Just look thru all the gurkha threads. there are lots of members that claim to have had only 1 or 2 sticks, some only a few puffs.

I see your calling of bull$hit, and raise you.

pnoon 02-28-2012 09:20 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dwoodward (Post 1575305)
Just look thru all the gurkha threads. there are lots of members that claim to have had only 1 or 2 sticks, some only a few puffs.

I see your calling of bull$hit, and raise you.

Assuming that your statement can be substantiated, how do you get from "lots of members" to "mostly"? Pretty big jump if you ask me.

jsnake 02-28-2012 09:21 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
You know what I hate? Padron. Seriously I hate them all. I might be a one man haters club since everyone see,s to love them.

Cigars are subjective to an individuals tastes. Judge for yourself. It is okay to look towards others for recommendation especially if you know someone likes the same things you do in a cigar.

People hate on Gurkha but I love them all and have a ton of them. My local B&M is always selling through their boxes so there must be a lot of closet Gurkha smokers out there.

Who cares though? Like what you like and if someone else doesn't like them maybe you can trade them for them.

dwoodward 02-28-2012 09:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1575310)
Assuming that your statement can be substantiated, how do you get from "lots of members" to "mostly"? Pretty big jump if you ask me.

What is with you and taking similar words and trying to make them seem like they have completely different meanings. Lots of members and mostly? Who cares.

My comments still stand.

pnoon 02-28-2012 09:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dwoodward (Post 1575328)
What is with you and taking similar words and trying to make them seem like they have completely different meanings. Lots of members and mostly? Who cares.

My comments still stand.

My sincere apology.

I think people here who understand the English language see the difference in the meanings. Whether they care or not, I do not know.

I defer to your vast experience and knowledge.

shilala 02-28-2012 11:11 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
I get that you don't like Padron, Jake. I love them, but I can't gag my way through a Tat.
I've tried dozens of Gurkhas, so I guess I don't fall in the lots or mostly bracket, and just find them useless. Devoid of flavor, personality, or a reason to smoke them.
I mentioned their business model earlier, but had stopped trying to find a "cheap gold nugget" or "cheap yardgar" among them long before they annoyed me. The cigars earned the annoyance.
If they're floating your boat, continue to enjoy them. Smoke what you like, like what you smoke. I get ragged constantly about how picky I am about cigars I'll smoke. I like what I like, and I won't spend ten minutes on a cigar I don't enjoy. Life is too short to smoke sh1tty cigars, and I enjoy listening to my buds bag on me for being such a pain in the ass.:)

icehog3 02-28-2012 11:46 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
Bah, 90% of statistics are wrong 83% of the time.

REV 02-28-2012 11:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1575406)
Bah, 90% of statistics are wrong 83% of the time.

http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs...8351d047_h.jpg

thecatch83 02-29-2012 01:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1575406)
Bah, 90% of statistics are wrong 83% of the time.


http://www.myiconart.com/ekmps/shops...rt-61377-p.png

Bad Finger 02-29-2012 02:38 AM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1574369)
At one point Simon...The Black Dragon story began in 2006 when it hit the market with the hefty price tag of $1,150.00 per cigar, the most expensive cigar ever made. Only 5 hand-carved camel bone boxes of 100 cigars were produced, making this stick very, very limited. Must have been paying for that hand-carved camel bone, because today the Black Dragon can be had (depending on vitola) for between $ 7.50 (robusto) to $ 17.50 (tubo).

But by creating 5 boxes that cost them a grand total of about $400, they got the entire cigar world to talk about them.

That's advertising you can't pay for.

fencefixer 02-29-2012 03:09 AM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...et-d48svsd.jpg



I don't hate Ghurka, much like, for example Harley Davidson. Most of it lies in marketing strategies. Hype the name to sell an "OK" product to people that don't know any better.


Would I pay $15000+ for a HD? Hell no. Bigger, better, cheaper out there.
Would I pay $3000 for a HD? Sure.

Would I pay $15+ for a Ghurka? Hell no. Bigger, better, cheaper out there.
Would I pay $3 for a Ghurka? Sure.

I tried "Cask Strength" and "Crest", liked them. They were okay.

You ride what you like, you smoke what you like, you do what you like! DC sends love, stop arguing bishes. :)

Gophernut 02-29-2012 07:54 AM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
When I started smoking cigars again in earnest, I enjoyed the Gurkha Fuerte quite a bit. I haven't smoked too many other ones, but the ones I smoked weren't entirely memorable one way or the other. I was planning on revisiting the Fuerte line, but I understand the blend has been changed. That being the case, there are plenty of other cigars that I know I enjoy, so I haven't been too tempted to try any more.

Boobar 02-29-2012 01:07 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1574360)
While I have had plenty of Gurkhas that were horrible, I do enjoy the Doble Maduro...shame they discontinued them. Grabbed a few 5ers to save for a rainy day.

The Dobles have a permanent place in my humidor and they are currently back available and can be had at a reasonable price on the Cbid

Malazan 02-29-2012 06:04 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
Damn, 5 pages of hate. That's what I'm talking about:banger

thecatch83 03-01-2012 11:48 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Malazan (Post 1576532)
Damn, 5 pages of hate. That's what I'm talking about:banger

Entirely way too much time spent on said Gurkha!

Enphrared 03-02-2012 03:55 AM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
Which Gurkha was blended by AJ Fernandez?

fencefixer 03-02-2012 04:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Enphrared (Post 1578298)
Which Gurkha was blended by AJ Fernandez?

Park Avenue

Reaver2145 03-02-2012 04:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fencefixer (Post 1578302)
Park Avenue

AKA the one that is $2.5-3 and is actuality good.

I know who i want working for gurkha from now on.

Enphrared 03-02-2012 05:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fencefixer (Post 1578302)
Park Avenue

Cool, I actually have one sitting in the box. Looking forward to -(P it.

Don Fernando 03-02-2012 01:09 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Malazan (Post 1574122)
Being a noob, I was wondering why all the hate towards Gurkha.

Two reasons:
- Because they suck
- Because charging $15+ for a Torano made stick sucks

CigarSquid 03-02-2012 01:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fencefixer (Post 1578302)
Park Avenue

I found that smoke.... boring.

irratebass 03-02-2012 01:14 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1578931)
I found that smoke.... boring.

I found it mild, but good.......of course I have only had one and this was early in my obsession, who knows how I would feel about it now.

Don Fernando 03-02-2012 01:15 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dwoodward (Post 1575049)

The Gurkha haters mostly have only had 1 or 2 of their sticks that happened to be bad sticks


The Gurkha lovers mostly have only had 1 or 2 of their sticks that happened to be reasonable sticks

thecatch83 03-02-2012 05:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 1578937)
The Gurkha lovers mostly have only had 1 or 2 of their sticks that happened to be reasonable sticks

Priceless!

Can I use that in my memoirs?

cmitch 03-02-2012 06:48 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
I h8 most of them. They're overpriced, overhyped, and they're overpackaged. Plus, most are just plain nasty. The vintage shaggy is the only one I have any use for.

thecatch83 03-02-2012 06:53 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmitch (Post 1579319)
I h8 most of them. They're overpriced, overhyped, and they're overpackaged. Plus, most are just plain nasty. The vintage shaggy is the only one I have any use for.

Do you use it for kindling?

nick2021 03-02-2012 07:16 PM

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I think everybody has valid points....I too was suckered in with the advertising and boughs LOTS of Gurkhas....even let them sit for almost two years to see if they would get better or whether my taste buds would change but they just aren't for me. They definitely do a good job of marketing....

cmitch 03-02-2012 07:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thecatch83 (Post 1579326)
Do you use it for kindling?

I use them for Tiki torches to keep the mosquitoes away.

icehog3 03-02-2012 08:06 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmitch (Post 1579358)
I use them for Tiki torches to keep the mosquitoes away.

See, even skeeters hate 'em. ;)

Zeuceone 03-02-2012 09:12 PM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
:r

Volusianator 03-03-2012 04:26 AM

Re: Gurkha Hate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Remo_5_0 (Post 1574237)
Don't hate em, just don't like them, although I have only smoked half of one it was enough to turn me off.

Gentlemen, we have a winner. Remo is fair, "don't hate em, just don't like them.


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