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replicant_argent 12-29-2011 10:35 AM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1515173)
I think if it is being offered as the "CA" newsletter then anyone who wants one should get one.
Posted via Mobile Device
but only those living in California, evidently.

massphatness 12-29-2011 10:36 AM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1515173)
I think if it is being offered as the "CA" newsletter then anyone who wants one should get one.
Posted via Mobile Device
This is why we called ours the MassHole Newsletter. Printing costs for all of CA would have sunk us.

DMK 01-03-2012 07:03 PM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sikk50 (Post 1514172)
What happened to those biology 101 pics of said cigars???
Life got in the way ;s
Without further ado, the Autopsy of a beach cigar.
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...cture001-1.jpg
A seemingly well put together cigar, 42 x 129 (5.1")
As seen earlier in what appears to be a Mille Fleur box without all the labels.
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...cture005-1.jpg
Removed what appears to be a legit band.
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...Picture006.jpg
Proceeded to remove the cap, (nice job) and the wrapper.
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...cture007-1.jpg
Next came the binder, again a nice job.

DMK 01-03-2012 07:04 PM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...cture008-1.jpg
The binder separated into two pieces.
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...cture009-1.jpg
Finally the contents...:rolleyes:
At least in all appears to be tobacco.

DMK 01-03-2012 07:05 PM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Once it warms up a bit, I'll burn one and see how it is.

Bageland2000 01-03-2012 07:15 PM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HollywoodQue (Post 1514229)
I agree Tom...education is key....why pay Mercedes Benz prices for a voltswagon???
Actually the last newsletter compared the Padron line to the Gurkha line ...Same thing as far as taste goes I guess. I'll be hording Gurkhas from now on. :dr

Digs 01-03-2012 08:05 PM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Daryl I had similar situation a few years ago when my buddy returning home from Iraq brought me back the infamous glass top Cohiba's! Anyway I didnt tell him untill later on, all wasnt lost I have been using the box to store my smoked bands in. :tu

SteelCityBoy 01-04-2012 08:41 AM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digs (Post 1519582)
Daryl I had similar situation a few years ago when my buddy returning home from Iraq brought me back the infamous glass top Cohiba's! Anyway I didnt tell him untill later on, all wasnt lost I have been using the box to store my smoked bands in. :tu
See, always a purpose for everything! :tu

shilala 01-04-2012 09:00 AM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Darryl, I tend to lean toward's Tom's line of thinking.
I'd smoke one and see how they are. That way you can say something like "they're not bad at all really, but I gotta tell you, they're counterfeit cc's"
My guess is that they got them in Cuba, and as such, they're very likely made from very real cuban tobacco, so they're as "real" as any other cc. As such, and after looking at your dissection, I bet they're gonna smoke pretty nice, even though they're not going to be true to the marca.
If you have another box handy it might give you opportunity to show them the differences like the cardboard insert. My guess is that since they didn't bother listening to you last time when you tried to explain things to them, they just think you're full of sh1t, ya know? Folks that aren't involved and invested in this thing like we are would probably think a little thing like no date stamp and a cardboard insert doesn't really mean anything. Honestly, it might even be laughable to some people.
I'm sure you can think of a very tactful way to thank them and educate them.
On top of that, I bet you're going to have some nice, interesting homegrown cc's to smoke. Make sure you let us know how they are. :tu

chand 01-04-2012 09:16 AM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1519948)
Darryl, I tend to lean toward's Tom's line of thinking.
I'd smoke one and see how they are. That way you can say something like "they're not bad at all really, but I gotta tell you, they're counterfeit cc's"
My guess is that they got them in Cuba, and as such, they're very likely made from very real cuban tobacco, so they're as "real" as any other cc. As such, and after looking at your dissection, I bet they're gonna smoke pretty nice, even though they're not going to be true to the marca.
If you have another box handy it might give you opportunity to show them the differences like the cardboard insert. My guess is that since they didn't bother listening to you last time when you tried to explain things to them, they just think you're full of sh1t, ya know? Folks that aren't involved and invested in this thing like we are would probably think a little thing like no date stamp and a cardboard insert doesn't really mean anything. Honestly, it might even be laughable to some people.
I'm sure you can think of a very tactful way to thank them and educate them.
On top of that, I bet you're going to have some nice, interesting homegrown cc's to smoke. Make sure you let us know how they are. :tu
+1. I want to know how they smoke too.

Blak Smyth 01-04-2012 09:22 AM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1519948)
Darryl, I tend to lean toward's Tom's line of thinking.
I'd smoke one and see how they are. That way you can say something like "they're not bad at all really, but I gotta tell you, they're counterfeit cc's"
My guess is that they got them in Cuba, and as such, they're very likely made from very real cuban tobacco, so they're as "real" as any other cc. As such, and after looking at your dissection, I bet they're gonna smoke pretty nice, even though they're not going to be true to the marca.
If you have another box handy it might give you opportunity to show them the differences like the cardboard insert. My guess is that since they didn't bother listening to you last time when you tried to explain things to them, they just think you're full of sh1t, ya know? Folks that aren't involved and invested in this thing like we are would probably think a little thing like no date stamp and a cardboard insert doesn't really mean anything. Honestly, it might even be laughable to some people.
I'm sure you can think of a very tactful way to thank them and educate them.
On top of that, I bet you're going to have some nice, interesting homegrown cc's to smoke. Make sure you let us know how they are. :tu
I would just pull all the bands off and consider them mystery CCs:tu

chand 01-04-2012 09:26 AM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1519976)
I would just pull all the bands off and consider them mystery CCs:tu
If they some good, that is the way to go. On the plus side the gift giver would probably appreciate that they were getting smoked.

pnoon 01-04-2012 09:29 AM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
But I would not include them in any CC PIF here. Or try to have them appar to be RyJ CCs. If they are to be shared, full disclosure is imperative.
:2
Posted via Mobile Device

Blak Smyth 01-04-2012 09:30 AM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1519983)
But I would not include them in any CC PIF here. Or try to have them appar to be RyJ CCs. If they are to be shared, full disclosure is imperative.
:2
Posted via Mobile Device
:tu

DMK 01-04-2012 10:56 AM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1519983)
But I would not include them in any CC PIF here. Or try to have them appar to be RyJ CCs. If they are to be shared, full disclosure is imperative.
:2
Posted via Mobile Device
These won't leave me, I'll smoke one once it warms up a little and will probably smoke my way through them if the first one is nice.

DMK 01-04-2012 11:02 AM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1519948)
Darryl, I tend to lean toward's Tom's line of thinking.
I'd smoke one and see how they are. That way you can say something like "they're not bad at all really, but I gotta tell you, they're counterfeit cc's"
My guess is that they got them in Cuba, and as such, they're very likely made from very real cuban tobacco, so they're as "real" as any other cc. As such, and after looking at your dissection, I bet they're gonna smoke pretty nice, even though they're not going to be true to the marca.
If you have another box handy it might give you opportunity to show them the differences like the cardboard insert. My guess is that since they didn't bother listening to you last time when you tried to explain things to them, they just think you're full of sh1t, ya know? Folks that aren't involved and invested in this thing like we are would probably think a little thing like no date stamp and a cardboard insert doesn't really mean anything. Honestly, it might even be laughable to some people.
I'm sure you can think of a very tactful way to thank them and educate them.
On top of that, I bet you're going to have some nice, interesting homegrown cc's to smoke. Make sure you let us know how they are. :tu
They did get them in Cuba, they were also educated before they went, but as you said, "My guess is that since they didn't bother listening to you last time when you tried to explain things to them, they just think you're full of sh1t, ya know?"
I was tactful in thanking them for thinking of me, and also informing them the status and risk of their purchase.
They go down again in Mar. and I won't be asking for more.:rolleyes:

Coop 01-04-2012 12:26 PM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Construction looked pretty good. Wonder how they'll smoke!!

Thanks for the dissect job. I did the same thing with some fake Cohiba's in a glass top

Doctorossi 01-04-2012 12:44 PM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coop (Post 1520217)
Construction looked pretty good.
The bands do indeed look legit, too, so...

[utter_speculation]

there may be a fair amount of ingredients in this 'product' that fell out of the correct factory.

[/utter_speculation]

Coop 01-04-2012 12:46 PM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
My cigar noob friends thought they were smoking some real cohiba's... they couldn't tell the difference between their bands and my real band!!!

Doctorossi 01-04-2012 12:59 PM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coop (Post 1520238)
My cigar noob friends thought they were smoking some real cohiba's... they couldn't tell the difference between their bands and my real band!!!
The fake bands have gotten decidedly better in recent years (desktop publishing trickle-down, I imagine), but (to my knowledge) it's still very rare to seen clean embossing like these have on a fake band.

SpruceBruce 01-21-2012 04:06 PM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
So thanks to Darryl, I got my newsletter the other day. Very informative and educational! :r

DMK 02-10-2012 12:59 PM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Just a quick update... I've smoked two now with another legit RyJ for comparison... :td They were flat tasting with little or no usual Cuban flavor profile.

dwoodward 02-10-2012 01:06 PM
Re: Disappointment on Christmas Eve.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DMK (Post 1555195)
Just a quick update... I've smoked two now with another legit RyJ for comparison... :td They were flat tasting with little or no usual Cuban flavor profile.
Probably just cheap Dominicans. Sorry to hear of your gift bombing, but this happens all the time, you are not alone. lol


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