Re: What do you guys think of the Padron 1964 Anniversaries?
 

Most of us answered the OPs question, but also voiced our concern based on the photos given. No, NCs aren't counterfeited very often, but these particular sticks have a history of being counterfeited enough that the producer felt the need to put a counter-counterfeit protection in there with the serial numbers on the second bands, so when we see a lack of those serial numbers a red flag is raised. I work in a B&M and have personally never seen naturals with that light of a color wrapper so that was a secondary red flag for me. When I add both of those together and see the price thats low, even for my standards living in a state with one of the lower cigar taxes in the US, I get even more skeptical.

That said, the secondary pictures have clearly shown that the cigars are legit and as soon as that was shown most everyone admitted their mistake and moved on.

Re: What do you guys think of the Padron 1964 Anniversaries?
 

So, if someone posted a picture that raised your eyebrows, along with a note to the effect of "I think I'm gonna pick some of these up", you wouldn't let him know it looked fishy to you?

I'm not trying to push my advice on anyone, but sometimes a question isn't asked only because someone isn't aware that there even is a question to be asked. :2

Re: What do you guys think of the Padron 1964 Anniversaries?
 

Just to note, in case anyone missed it. The second set of pictures is from a different store than the first.

Re: What do you guys think of the Padron 1964 Anniversaries?
 

Padron 26 #9 still my absolute favorite padron...those looks so tasty...

Re: What do you guys think of the Padron 1964 Anniversaries?
 

Just because they are experienced in the liquor trade, that does not make them experts in the cigar trade. They would probably not sell fakes....if indeed they knew they were fakes. I would agree that in the many boxes of '64's and '26's I've had the pleasure of smoking, there have been some pretty dramatic differences in wrapper shades. Label locations have seemed to be more consistent that what's in the photos, but who knows how these sticks have been handled. What do I know, I just smoke the things....:D

I don't buy my liquor at the cigar store, and I don't buy my cigars from the liquor store. Worked out pretty well, so far....:2

Cheers - B.B.S.

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:bdh
Look, I'm just just playing the devil's advocate, so don't get too defensive. It's not inappropriate or unwarranted to question authenticity when you see a red flag, it's just that what passes for a red flag in some people's minds makes me smile. Bands get jiggled around when you take cigars out of a box and lock them in a bin, prices are lower in states with low tobacco taxes, and wrapper shades vary quite a bit on cigars whose manufacturers don't dye them jet black with tobacco juice. I know I've been guilty of paranoia in the past, but largely because I was initiated into the culture that goes around on chatboards where we teach newbs to scrutinize every cigar they ever purchase as if fake cigars were as common as fake t!ts in Hollywood. I'm just ribbing you a little, and calling attention to the fact that it takes some of the pleasure out of our hobby to overthink things. It's taken me a while to learn to just relax, buy from sources that I trust and to take slight inconsistencies for what they are. I personally find it keeps my blood pressure much lower. For those who prefer to look at every cigar under the microscope, carry on.
:tf

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Uh, ok. Seems to me like a really odd subject to play devil's advocate on, but whatever floats your boat.

The pic looked fishy to me for several reasons (and I'm not alone) and the guy threatened to drop some cash on it, so I said 'watch out'. I'm sorry if it sucked out some of the fun for you, but if the OP had dropped some significant dollars on counterfeit cigars, that probably would've sucked out some fun for him, too, and I'm just trying to help a brother out.

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Well the store I went to today had a few left and I didn't care for the way they looked. Appeared to have been tossed around by customers a bit, but did in fact have the serial number on the side, instead of on top, which would have been hidden in the first pic. So I passed for now.

However, I did see these in their walk-in. Sad :( Meant to bring it to their attention but forgot. The small hygrometer I saw sitting on a table in the center read 72-73% I believe. These were stored right next to the door.

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Re: What do you guys think of the Padron 1964 Anniversaries?
 

I smoked one of those reserva's today (I think, are there other reserva's with a brown label?). It was a robusto.

I have one pet peeve with the tats so far. The foots of them are often chewed up and cracked. I assume people handle them and f them up. So I handled a bunch too, looking for one without a fissure going up the body of the cigar. I tried to be gentle though :)

Anyways, it was delectable. No mold.

Re: What do you guys think of the Padron 1964 Anniversaries?
 

Having smoked many Padrons, I too do not have a good feeling about these cigars. Contrast in natural/maduoro, serial numbers, appearance of band... Just looks off. If you're still interested, I may have pictures of mine!

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That pic of those J21s makes ninja a sad man.

Padron '64s?? Love them. Always consistent in draw, burn and flavor. I prefer the smaller vitolas. Maduro over natural. Great cigars if you can get them at a decent price. Under $200 for the Pricipe is a good price.

Re: What do you guys think of the Padron 1964 Anniversaries?
 

I was curious, so I checked my '64 that is stashed in my humi. It has that afformentioned serial number on the underband. I was relieved. I can now smoke it without being ashamed.