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Stephen 12-10-2011 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1497821)
Come on Dom...when the Babe played...noone else was hitting HRs. Not even a fair comparison. But I know...you gotta "toot" that Yankee horn. And I see there is no mention of that 295 right field fence that the Babe used to hit 'em over. :D

FTFY.:tu

Stephen 12-10-2011 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1497831)
I don't think you can call Bonds a legend (not with the steroids **). Babe, Mays, Aaron :tu :tu

*allegedly*

yourchoice 12-10-2011 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1498053)
*allegedly*

:lr

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-P5HSicrN28...le%2Bbonds.jpg

Starscream 12-10-2011 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by yourchoice (Post 1497899)
I think the day teams start showing loyalty to players is the day players should start showing loyalty to teams. It's a business on both sides. On the ownership side, I don't want my team rewarding players for past performance....that would likely just weaken the team's future performance (the Phillies did this with a lot of guys from the '93 team, killed them for years).

From the players perspective, the player, in this case Pujols, not only has his own financial reasons to take the money, but there's a lot of pressure from the Player's Union for each player to maximize their earnings for all future players' contracts.

And I root for laundry. :D

I get that, and it's sad. Agents have ruined the players' union in some aspects. I won't say there's any blackballing going on for accepting less money, but they're certainly frowned upon by their peers.

SmokeyJoe 12-10-2011 08:57 AM

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I still don't get it and say he's a d0uchebag. He's said how great STL is for so long and here are some quotes to prove it.
You are entitled to your view, but it is hard for me to see feeling so hard toward a guy who did so much for the Cardinals. My :2

qwerty1500 12-10-2011 09:02 AM

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Definitely have a lot of mixed emotions about this.

I am grateful to have seen a future Hall of Fame player in a Cardinals uniform for 11 seasons. Time will tell if those were the best years of his career. We saw so many home runs and gold glove plays as well as Albert’s pure baseball instinct. I will appreciate all of that forever as a Cardinal fan and a fan of the game.

I am happy for Albert and the Angels. Talent deserves to be rewarded and a quarter billion dollars is an amazing amount of money. I guess the Angels can afford it thanks to their new $3 billion Fox Sports television contract. They now have a real threat in the middle of their lineup and a new star to attract disgruntled Dodger fans.

I feel bad for all the five year old kids in their Pujols t-shirts and the lesson this taught them about loyalty.

I feel good about Cardinal management. They were aware of Albert’s age and the likely impacts of past and current injuries on his future performance. Also, did they see a hole in his swing as Albert hit into one double play after another in 2011? Nevertheless, they offered more than they should to make their fans happy and to give Albert an opportunity to become a Cardinal legend.

I’m a little relieved and very optimistic about the future.

This contract has been hanging over our heads for a couple of years. I’m glad it’s over and that management didn’t mortgage the next decade on one player.

It is a little late and I don’t see any obvious moves in the free-agent pool other than maybe Rollins at short. Don’t know enough about the relievers on the market but the bullpen would be a good place to drop some cash for 2012.

Management has worked hard to restock the farm system and the Cards have some prospects that should have a real impact in a year or two. With a couple of tweaks, I’d be willing to muddle through 2012 with the current roster and use Albert’s $20+ million a year to improve the team when the right deals come along.

Finally, I’m mostly glad that Albert is going to the American League and won’t be in a Cub uniform.

Sorry to be so windy but this topic has been on the minds of a lot of folks around here the last couple of days. It feels good just to get it off my chest.

Starscream 12-10-2011 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe (Post 1498141)
You are entitled to your view, but it is hard for me to see feeling so hard toward a guy who did so much for the Cardinals. My :2

You're right, Joe. D0uchebag is a strong word. He's not. I just expected more out of him. After all the talk that he's said over the years, I kinda put him above a lot of other baseball players when it comes to pride, ego, and money. I just thought he would be a bit more pure than the status quo is in baseball today when it came to money.
We watch sports for the competition, the excitement, and the ability to root and be passionate about something. And at the end of the day, many still want to see a fairy tale ending. But I guess fairy tales in sports are becoming a thing of the past. As much as I don't like the Yankees, I do love the fact that they have kept Jeter, Rivera, and Posada intact since day one. Same for Atlanta and keeping Chipper Jones. I really didn't expect Pujols to go the A-Rod route.


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