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If it was the Yankees and the Rangers, I would be watching Terra Nova reruns if need be. :lr And I don't even know what Terra Nova is.

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Were I to be watching Yanks/Rangers, I'd likely have seen what I saw last night . . . too many men left on base, and a possible win pi$$ed away. :r

And Terra Nova is a decent new SF show about human settlers in a parallel world with dinosaurs, 85 million years in the past. It's too soon to know if it will be classic, but it beats watching another "reality" program . . . or two teams I don't care about. :D

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Martinez hits a homer, and now he is hurt. Fudge.

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I wish. I was up until almost 2 AM last night. DVR'd the Tigers and Lions on MNF. Huge dissappointment at the end of that 11 inning game.

It seems you get my point. My digs are as irrelevant to this thread as yours.

I've DVR'd all the episodes so far but haven't had a chance to watch it yet. I too am a SF guy.

He came back out and was walked without swinging the bat. He came out later and lined an out into left-center. He didn't seem to be in pain. I'm hoping he's ok going forward.


That all said, Tigers Win!!! :wo

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Glad to see Victor swing hard after the "injury".

Also glad to see see him, Cabrera, Peralta and even Jackson making some contact. If Porcello can give us a good outing and the bats keep cracking, maybe Verlander will be pitching for the 3-2 lead.

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What he said, plus I hope the weather holds out. As of now Verlander could be getting rain AGAIN. :td

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Both Delmon Youn and Victor Martinez are in the starting lineup for Game 4.

http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ss...ez_delmon.html

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Screw viagra, I'm not sure my heart is healthy enough to watch the Rangers

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This has been one exciting series...

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The Tigers need to keep the Rangers out of extra inning games. If they get there, end it in 10. If it goes to 11, hope Nelson Cruz isn't batting. If he is, intentionally walk him. Especially if the bases are loaded. Just sayin'. can't wait for game 5. Hope C J pitches better tomorrow.

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Rangers are just looking like a better team right now. That lineup doesn't have a lot of holes in it and it's making all the difference. It sure would be nice to have a healthy Bosch and Young out there right now. Not that we're out of it just yet - I expect Verlander to win today and I like how Scherzer pitched in Texas. And of course anything can happen in a game 7, especially with Fister pitching. As a side note, I'm really sorry we gave up Furbush in the Fister deal. Having both of those guys on the team would have been awesome.

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True enough. Tigers should have won that with a sac-fly in the 8th. Napoli played it well, Cabrera did not.

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Agreed on all accounts.

I still have hope..

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:gary

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We're goin' back to Texas. :)

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:wo 2 more games! Hope the Tigers saved some hits for while they are in Texas.

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Wilson should have been pulled much earlier in this game. I almost thought they were holding him in to concede the game to Detroit rather than wear out the BP, and instead get some rest and be ready to take the next game.

Either way, Texas still managed some runs and I think they will close out the series in Game 6.

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I definitely thought Washington managed like he had a 3-1 lead, which may have been the right way to do it. Both bullpens have been taxed and I can't blame him for thinking he has 2 home games to wrap this up. That said, anything can happen. I'm obviously hoping for the Tigers to take 2 more.

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Tigers saved their bullpen too, Boys. ;)

Hope Scherzer can pitch another one like the last one. If so, we may get to see Mr. Fister in Game 7.

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Max to face off against the "Dutch-Stache" in Game 6. I hope the lively bats (Tigers' bats) carry over and that Sherzer is sharp.

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I think the Rangers will close out the series in Game 6. If Holland struggles at all I think you will see Washington put in Scott Feldman.I think Holland will be on a very short leash.

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nine run 3rd inning...go Rangers

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Detroit has played a good series and I hate to be premature but I think the Rangers have won. I think Detroit had better starting pitchers, but the Rangers had the better bats

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12-4...Had a good year Tigers.

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Good prediction

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Terrible managing by Leyland in this one, IMO. This game was a "must win" game but Leyland managed it like a regular season game. It was apparent to everyone (but Leyland) that Max didn't have it very early on, and the game would get out of control in a hurry at a time when you needed to keep it close. How much more convincing did Leyland need? Was it Max's inability to throw strikes, particularly first pitch strikes and getting behind nearly every batter? Maybe it was the 4 walks? Whatever Leyland didn't see, it seemed like everyone else was clued in Max didn't have good stuff. I was hollering for him to be pulled in the 2nd and bring Porcello in. Remember, this is the season on the line here and not a time to hope that Max would somehow, someway figure it out and turn it around. As usual, there was no sense of urgency from Leyland at all. It's a fatal Leyland flaw that he's way too generous and way too loyal to certain players.

Instead, he leaves him in too long and sets an impossible table for Schlereth. Then he pulls Porcello too early. Porcello would have been good for 4-5 innings at least. Sure Porcello got jobbed by a missed call on second, and if not for that the Tigers get out of the inning with little damage. Even so, why pull Porcello? You pull Porcello early, and you have to go to a bullpen that's been shaky at best for long relief. Are you trying to tell me going to Perry then Penny (who hadn't even pitched PERIOD) was a better chance of winning then leaving Porcello in and then come back out for the next few innings? I knew if he pulled Porcello, they had nobody reliable for long relief and the game was more than likely over.

Leyland blew this game. His questionable pitching decisions not only took them out of the game, but allowed the Tigers to be embarrassed.

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Great series. The Tigers were a worthy opponent. They have my respect, especially since they defeated the Evil Empire in the LDS.

Go Rangers!!!!

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Congrats to the Rangers and their fans, they were the better team in this series and deserve to move on. Their offensive line-up is like Murderer's Row.

Much better than expected season for the Tigers, they gave us some excitement.

Regardless of Leyland's managing, the team (pitchers and defense) gave up 15 runs, so I think there is plenty of blame to go around. Jackson, Avila, and others left their bats in the regular season, and the pitching didn't live up to the regular season either, with the exception of Fister. Don't make Leyland the scapegoat for a team failure. :2

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Didn't Porcello give up about 6 of those runs in the 3rd? I was cleaning birds at the time, so I didn't see it live. Keep him in 4-5 innings, could have been about 20-5. The bats were HOT this game.

I agree with Tom. Don't make Leyland the scapegoat. He managed the way he thought was best.

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Porcello only had 2 ER in the game. Would have had one if ump didn't blow call at 2nd.

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For the record, Porcello only gave up 2, Jason. :)

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I stand corrected. My faux pas.

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It's OK, the other guys gave up 13. :r

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:tu Still a great series.

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Definitely gave me my most baseball enjoyment since 2006. Tigers have their top four starters locked up for a few years, so I am hoping for more October baseball next year.

Good luck in the Series.

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It's Leyland's job to keep the game close with good management. Had he pulled Max early, the long relief could have started throwing with a LEAD instead of being behind and with the bases loaded. That's a HUGE difference, and is precisely what led to a 9 run 3rd inning.

Sure, not all the bats showed up (they still scored 5), but that's precisely why Leyland can't let the game get out of control.

Leyland blew it and in the process let a game that could have been close turn into a embarrassment.

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No, all the Ranger hits turned it into a 9 run inning.

We can agree to disagree, because I think more than managerial mistakes cost the Tigers the game. :2

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Because a struggling pitcher was left in too long and a huge mess was left for the relief pitchers. That's the manager's doing. This was a "do or die" game and it was not managed that way.

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They are still a young team, and everyone was surprised with the Tigers this year. Great series though. Go Rangers!

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The Rangers looked good.

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Congats to the Rangers.

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It is definitely not fair to blame this all on Leyland. Scherzer pitched two shut out innings before the terrible 3rd inning. Did you want to pull him after 2 runs scored that tied the game? You have to give your pitcher a chance to work through it especially when you don't have the luxury of a bullpen that can go 6 innings.

In the 2nd Scherzer struck out the first batter, next batter grounded out, Nelson Cruz doubled, walked David Murphy, then Chavez grounded a ball that led to a fielders choice out to end the inning. You think because of that sequence he should have been taken out? If you were the manager and you're taking out a pitcher in the 2nd with a lead you are going to lose the confidence of your players. Porcello didn't really have it either, he also walked a batter and only got ahead in the count against one player (Andrus).

Leyland managed a good game, unfortunately Texas was just the better team. Are you going to blame him for the 2 fielding errors that we had as well? or like others said the cold bats?

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Congrats to the Rangers. Tigers didn't have the clutch hitting or pitching they needed. I know injuries played a role, but not enough to be blamed for losing. Rangers had the better bats and better bullpen. Losing A.A.'s confidence late in the regular season killed the Tiger's pen. He was a rookie, so hopefully he can rebound next year.

I hope the Rangers can beat the Cards. Good luck guys.

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Didn't you hear, Mike? It was Leyland's fault. :)

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I can't blame him for Game 6. Game 5 maybe. :D


I like 4 of next year's starting rotation: Verlander, Fister, Scherzer, and Porcello.

They need:

1. A 5th starter that is better than Penny, lefty preferred.
2. A starting 2nd baseman
3. A starting 3rd basemen
4. At least one decent reliever who can go more than an inning, lefty would be nice
5. A backup catcher who hits above the Mendoza line and has a decent arm


Any bats they add would preferrably be from the left side or switch. They are too right dominant both at the plate and on the mound. I figure the outfield will be Boesch, Jackson, and Young. If Rayburn could learn how to field at all his bat is good enough to start him. However, I believe he has the worst stats in history for anyone who has started at 2nd base.