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Average Joe 08-10-2011 11:42 PM
Re: Tobacco Beetles and Baggies?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wallbright (Post 1369914)
I just read the hygros in the humi and they say 74 and 72 so not too bad but I hear the beetles start to be a problem close to 79-80 right?
Mine has been at 74 all summer with no problems. I freeze everything right when it comes in. I don't need tobacco beetles chewing through the steel supports in my basement. -(P

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Originally Posted by BC-Axeman (Post 1369920)
I think I read on a website somewhere that they use static electricity to arc their way through metal. I'll try to find that link. Maybe Wikipedia.
Do you think they could arc their way through my head wear?

http://new-aliens-ufos-videos-sighti...n-foil-hat.jpg

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1369937)
I'm sorry, to whom exactly is this statement directed?

I would hope you actually read the thread to see where the claims were being made before blindly jumping in with both feet.
Really? I'm going to act like you didn't take my post that seriously.

Devanmc 08-11-2011 05:36 AM
Re: Tobacco Beetles and Baggies?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1369924)
I've never seen such pictures or claims of this before today.....Not saying it isn't true, but ....I'm pretty damn skeptical.

I'd love to see pictures, as mentioned by several members already.
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Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 1369922)
Tobacco beetles CANNOT eat through metal. The "foil" used in cigar storage(Tat RC184, RyJ Cazadores, etc.) is paper with a thin metallic coating. I am still waiting for pics of beetles chewing through an aluminum tubo. I have seen many beetle holes in cigars from tubos, not one chewed its way through.

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1369899)
There's a huge difference in thickness between the metal-foil discussed in those articles and the walls of a tubo Devan.
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Originally Posted by Devanmc (Post 1369822)
im not saying its true becuase this is the interwebs but i did find multipule sources stating the bettles can eat threw, what amounts to, thin soft metals.

dont crucify me i found it on the interwebs, if could just be a myth. :cf2
and the others that followed

and i get crucified anyways... ;s

I personally never said they could eat threw thick(tubo) metal. I specifically said "soft thin metals". Your interpretation that i said a tubo is wrong because well, i never said it. that is all, :2

Quote:
Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1370045)
put . . . the . . . shovel . . . down


:2
+1 :tu

688sonarmen 08-11-2011 05:46 AM
Re: Tobacco Beetles and Baggies?
 
Here are some close pics of my pet beetles. Unless they are a kin to billy goats I'm calling bs on the tubos.

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/...1/DSCN1070.jpg
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/...1/DSCN1084.jpg

massphatness 08-11-2011 07:31 AM
Re: Tobacco Beetles and Baggies?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeuceone (Post 1369992)
If a cigar has been aged for three years, would that be long enough for the eggs to die?
While I'm not an Entomologist, I don't believe it's long enough depending on the storage conditions of the cigars. I tried to research mortality rates for beetle eggs but couldn't come up with anything that spoke to how long they live at "normal" temps. Lots of data on the effects of extreme heat and cold, but not so much "room temperature" data.

I'm a better safe than sorry guy -- so I freeze EVERYTHING -- including my previously frozen sticks if I take them to a herf and someone hands me a cigar that I end up throwing in my herf-a-dor. I am NOT screwing with my collection if I can help it. It's one thing to have a box of cigars confiscated, but to lose a box (boxes) which have successfully made it into my humidor? I would kick my own ass into next week.

Drez 08-11-2011 07:40 AM
Re: Tobacco Beetles and Baggies?
 
I've been looking into this beetle setting through a tube and mortality rates for the eggs and I too can't find much info on either at room temp.

I think it's widely agreed on that freezing everything is the best preventive mesure but it is still not a 100% percent that you will not have a beetle hatch and ruin a stick or 2.

I believe that if you choose to freeze everything you should still check your stock fromtime to time and make sure everything is still good. I "play" with my stash every few weeks and I use that time to look over some sticks, reorginize, and inspect my sticks.

Keep the temps as low as possible and the humidity in "range" and you should not have to worry about a beetle outbreak let alone them eatting through a tube. :tu

wayner123 08-11-2011 08:12 AM
Re: Tobacco Beetles and Baggies?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1369270)
Would love to see those pics.
Quote:
Originally Posted by poker (Post 1369335)
Me too.
I have been searching and searching to find them. I cannot find them. Sorry guys.

I recall it being only like 2 or 3 pics of a silver tubo. With one small hole in it. Oh well.

poker 08-11-2011 08:17 AM
Re: Tobacco Beetles and Baggies?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wallbright (Post 1370038)
Haha well in all fairness though some were from Universities. Which a step up from google but is by no means conclusive.
Many University studies aint all that bright either.

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A study from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill found that “people who bike or walk to work are more fit, less fat than drivers.”

wayner123 08-11-2011 08:48 AM
Re: Tobacco Beetles and Baggies?
 
Ok, I think I found what I had remembered:

http://www.vitolas.net/albums/userpi...yj_beetles.jpg

There is a small something or other on the tube above the "A" in Julieta. I can't say that it is a beetle hole. So I guess I remembered it wrong. My bad.

Average Joe 08-11-2011 09:44 AM
Re: Tobacco Beetles and Baggies?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wayner123 (Post 1370514)
Ok, I think I found what I had remembered:

http://www.vitolas.net/albums/userpi...yj_beetles.jpg

There is a small something or other on the tube above the "A" in Julieta. I can't say that it is a beetle hole. So I guess I remembered it wrong. My bad.

I ran a full CSI Miami analysis on the picture and it appears the hole was actually made by Luke Skywalker. From the reflection on the tubo it looks like the photographer had a sandwich for lunch and still had some lettuce on his mustache. ;)

Tyler 08-11-2011 02:53 PM
Re: Tobacco Beetles and Baggies?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by poker (Post 1370461)
Many University studies ain't all that bright either.
Very true. Causation and correlation often times get confused with studies like the one you quoted.

Tbagley 08-12-2011 04:07 PM
Re: Tobacco Beetles and Baggies?
 
Wow that Romeo has a house full of friends, imagine the look on the face of the guy opening that tube!


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