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mariogolbee 07-31-2011 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bax (Post 1354795)
Get it Mario, and if you don't like it you can always use it for that in-home circumcision business you've been looking into:r

:banger Bring it on! Tim, will you be my first customer? I'll give you half off! Get it? Half off? :r

muhren 07-31-2011 11:35 AM

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I've used one. Tried it at a shop about a year ago.

Here are my :2:
1. It was created BECAUSE people in the factory did use Exacto/razor blades to cut slits. it mimicks that. If you want to take the time to use a razor to cut five holes, experiment on your own.
2. You had to put it further into your mouth than I normally do as the slits are on the side rather than the tip of the cigar
3. The draw is more restricted than a standard cut with a guillotine (Should be obvious since that is a lop off the end)
4. I ended up having the shop owner give me a standard clip after I was through with half of the smoke.

Overall, it's not that is was BAD it was just QUITE different.

IF you're someone who thinks what you have is good enough...well, you're going to feel that way no matter what the new product is.

For someone who chomps the hell out of their cap and the cigar ends up unraveling, this may be for you. The cap (and wrapper) stayed relatively intact throughout my smoke.

TG is right in that it became restricted as the cigar was smoked.

M

area51 07-31-2011 12:34 PM

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Imho dont fix what isnt broken

bevo 08-05-2011 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1354023)
So, how long have you worked for the company? :)

No, I do not work for the company. I am just fanboy of the product. :)

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1354023)
Out of curiousity, why would you say every cigar you ever cut with another cutter was a waste?

With other cutters, I do not enjoy the last third of the bigger cigars because they burn too hot and deliver too much smoke. With a guillotine cut but not a punch cut, some bigger cigars had a tendency to burn unevenly. With the six slits, though, I can smoke almost all the cigar (usually down to the last inch or so depending on the brand).
With the six slits, the draw is more even and is cooler.

bevo 08-05-2011 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 1354062)
Impossible. A guillotine provides the most surface area for the smoke to exit and if the cigar draws well, you can't get a "more even draw" than that.

You have had a much better experience than me with guillotine cuts on bigger cigars. I finally switched to the punch because I was tired of the uneven draws. With the punch, though, I am leaving about a third of the cigar because the cigar became too hot to smoke.

icehog3 08-05-2011 07:02 PM

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Perhaps you are smoking too quickly? I smoke churchills and double coronas all the time and never have them get too hot. And with proper humidification, I have no burn issues either.

Zeuceone 08-05-2011 07:13 PM

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Don't feed the troll.

emopunker2004 08-05-2011 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeuceone (Post 1363207)

Fixt :r

T.G 08-05-2011 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1363182)
Perhaps you are smoking too quickly? I smoke churchills and double coronas all the time and never have them get too hot. And with proper humidification, I have no burn issues either.


My exact first thoughts too Tom.

T.G 08-05-2011 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeuceone (Post 1363207)
Don't feed the troll.

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1363212)
Fixt :r

Come on guys.

Just because he has a differing opinion does not make him a troll.

A troll is someone who comes with the express purpose of disrupting, causing strife and agitating a forum, for their own amusement. There are many ways to do that, but coming in out of nowhere, posting something that sounds like a sales pitch and then a few days later civilly answering responses really isn't it.

Would he have been better served by posting an introduction in the appropriate section first, sure. Could the first post have been less like a shill, it could have been. But that, and the differing opinion, does not necessarily make him a troll.

Zeuceone 08-05-2011 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1363212)
Fixt :r

Thanks. Takes to long on my phone to post a picture

cort 08-05-2011 07:41 PM

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http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...ccd8o1_500.jpg

gnukfu 08-30-2011 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cort (Post 1363258)

Dynamite!


Was wondering exactly how this cutter worked. Thanks for the info. Maybe I'll buy one and put it in my drawer next to my Xikar scissors.

I've been using a chainsaw for years but I'm running out of fingers....

Two Guys has them for $19.99 if anyone is interested.

kickerb 08-30-2011 06:47 PM

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I am really interested to know this. What if it was say, Palio or Xikar that introduced this new style cutter. Would people be more excited and willing to buy?

To me it would not matter, I used a razor blade to memic this style cut and was not happy with it.

But I am curious to know if people's opinions would change based on brand power alone.

T.G 08-30-2011 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kickerb (Post 1393177)
I am really interested to know this. What if it was say, Palio or Xikar that introduced this new style cutter. Would people be more excited and willing to buy?

No, although it is the kind of unneeded gadgetry I come to expect from Xikar.

pnoon 08-30-2011 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kickerb (Post 1393177)
I am really interested to know this. What if it was say, Palio or Xikar that introduced this new style cutter. Would people be more excited and willing to buy?

To me it would not matter, I used a razor blade to memic this style cut and was not happy with it.

But I am curious to know if people's opinions would change based on brand power alone.

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1393180)
No, although it is the kind of unneeded gadgetry I come to expect from Xikar.

I can pretty much guarantee you that Palio would never market anything gimmicky. At least under current ownership.

DPD6030 08-30-2011 07:17 PM

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Hey give me the sexy leg lamp that was in A Christmas Story...I'm sold. This I will not buy. :D

Aporschaguy 08-30-2011 07:31 PM

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Looks interesting but I've hade my Xikar for over 10 years and it has never cut wrong. As sharp as the day I got it. I've dropped it a thousand times... I haven't even oiled it as recomened. Old faithful.

http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...e/826cd5e2.jpg

http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...e/517d97ed.jpg

vinnydisilvio 08-31-2011 05:38 PM

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based on the fact that B&M owner i know, who smokes at least 3 cigars pretty much every day, has experienced that the cigars cut with this cutter do burn cooler than cigars cut with a guillotine or something else (and he's not a speed smoker) and that his experience is that it does create a more flavorful smoke...and that i'm a sucker for collecting accessories...i've already ordered this from one of his stores.

it's only $19.99 for the plastic-cased edition so i don't feel like i'm committing a lot. based on the fact that this is actually a "new" way to cut cigars and that it works to cut the cigars pretty much means those crying "gimmick" are incorrect. to each their own, but since this has worked for very experienced cigar smokers i can't wait to try it!

icehog3 08-31-2011 05:45 PM

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Though being that he profits by selling them, it does raise the question of "would be say they suck"? ;)

pnoon 08-31-2011 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by vinnydisilvio (Post 1394393)
based on the fact that B&M owner i know, who smokes at least 3 cigars pretty much every day, has experienced that the cigars cut with this cutter do burn cooler than cigars cut with a guillotine or something else (and he's not a speed smoker) and that his experience is that it does create a more flavorful smoke...and that i'm a sucker for collecting accessories...i've already ordered this from one of his stores.

it's only $19.99 for the plastic-cased edition so i don't feel like i'm committing a lot. based on the fact that this is actually a "new" way to cut cigars and that it works to cut the cigars pretty much means those crying "gimmick" are incorrect. to each their own, but since this has worked for very experienced cigar smokers i can't wait to try it!

Opinions vary.
:2

Bill86 08-31-2011 05:49 PM

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Probably not, although he could up-sell you to a more pricey cutter.

He must at least PARTIALLY believe in the thing if he isn't trying to push you into a $50 Xi or Palio.

Or maybe he tries to guess everyones budget based on actions and just says everything in the shop is good :sh

It's really hard to guess peoples motivation.

NCRadioMan 08-31-2011 05:50 PM

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Based on the fact that the definition of 'gimmick' is "An innovative or unusual mechanical contrivance; a gadget." then yes, it is a gimmick. And based on the fact that it is, in fact, a gimmick doesn't, in fact, make it a bad thing.

Based on those facts, I think it may just be fact that it's all subjective. :D

vinnydisilvio 09-01-2011 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1394399)
Though being that he profits by selling them, it does raise the question of "would be say they suck"? ;)

actually this guy...yeah he would. he owns 3 very large and successful shops and has a history of saying when there's something that's just a gimmick if he doesn't think it's great. and if it actually sucked he wouldn't buy any for the shop.

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Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1394403)
Probably not, although he could up-sell you to a more pricey cutter.

He must at least PARTIALLY believe in the thing if he isn't trying to push you into a $50 Xi or Palio.

Or maybe he tries to guess everyones budget based on actions and just says everything in the shop is good :sh

It's really hard to guess peoples motivation.

well, this guy isn't someone i normally buy from. i'm canadian and he's an american shop owner on the opposite coast. he knows he's not gonna get hardly any orders from me because a canadian mail-ordering cigars is far too expensive. he's also not someone who believes in selling someone something he doesn't feel they could use. he's old school, so he believes more in creating a good reputation based on selling people something they will be happy with.

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 1394407)
Based on the fact that the definition of 'gimmick' is "An innovative or unusual mechanical contrivance; a gadget." then yes, it is a gimmick. And based on the fact that it is, in fact, a gimmick doesn't, in fact, make it a bad thing.

Based on those facts, I think it may just be fact that it's all subjective. :D

well, since that's not the only definition of "gimmick", it's hard to assume that's what people mean when they seem to be using it in a dismissive context. the way a few people on the thread were using it, the definition of "a concealed, usually devious aspect or feature of something, as a plan or deal" since those who called it a gimmick seemed to be saying "i don't see the need for it because..." i mean, really, if you assume the definition you've quoted then nearly every accessory ever made is a gimmick. it didn't sound like that was some others' opinions.

i'm not naive enough to think i can change someone's opinion, but instead just voice my own. i was just stating why i thought it was a good idea to buy.

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1394400)
Opinions vary.
:2

well...it works as a cutter or it doesn't. that's not really a matter of opinion. whether or not people like how it works certainly is though. i can respect that.

tenbaseg 09-01-2011 05:13 AM

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http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...2867646974.jpg

0002S 09-01-2011 05:25 AM

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It's an answer to a question I wasn't asking.

Sailchaser 09-01-2011 06:03 AM

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My dollar cutter has worked just fine for the last 10 years while the pallio, firebird, xikar and 10 other cutters all sit in the cabinet along with 20 lighters that I just had to have:2

pnoon 09-01-2011 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by vinnydisilvio (Post 1394807)
actually this guy...yeah he would. he owns 3 very large and successful shops and has a history of saying when there's something that's just a gimmick if he doesn't think it's great. and if it actually sucked he wouldn't buy any for the shop.



well, this guy isn't someone i normally buy from. i'm canadian and he's an american shop owner on the opposite coast. he knows he's not gonna get hardly any orders from me because a canadian mail-ordering cigars is far too expensive. he's also not someone who believes in selling someone something he doesn't feel they could use. he's old school, so he believes more in creating a good reputation based on selling people something they will be happy with.



well, since that's not the only definition of "gimmick", it's hard to assume that's what people mean when they seem to be using it in a dismissive context. the way a few people on the thread were using it, the definition of "a concealed, usually devious aspect or feature of something, as a plan or deal" since those who called it a gimmick seemed to be saying "i don't see the need for it because..." i mean, really, if you assume the definition you've quoted then nearly every accessory ever made is a gimmick. it didn't sound like that was some others' opinions.

i'm not naive enough to think i can change someone's opinion, but instead just voice my own. i was just stating why i thought it was a good idea to buy.



well...it works as a cutter or it doesn't. that's not really a matter of opinion. whether or not people like how it works certainly is though. i can respect that.

Thanks for enlightening all of us.

Blak Smyth 09-01-2011 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailchaser (Post 1394901)
My dollar cutter has worked just fine for the last 10 years while the pallio, firebird, xikar and 10 other cutters all sit in the cabinet along with 20 lighters that I just had to have:2

I have always used a cheap cutter or punch, however I used a Palio at Dom's herf and it was amazingly better than a cheap cutter!
If you want to get rid of your Palio let me know;)

poker 09-01-2011 07:38 AM

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Its the same with lighters. Some prefer a soft flame, others a torch or ceder strip. Its not that one is better or worse, but just a personal preference just like cutters. Use what fits your budget and what works for you.

vinnydisilvio 09-01-2011 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1394931)
Thanks for enlightening all of us.

lol...i'm sorry if i come across as someone who thinks they know it all. that's not the intention.

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Originally Posted by poker (Post 1394967)
Its the same with lighters. Some prefer a soft flame, others a torch or ceder strip. Its not that one is better or worse, but just a personal preference just like cutters. Use what fits your budget and what works for you.

yeah, agreed poker, for sure. this also reminds me that i still feel like i need at least 1 punch (with threads on it to keep it secure, since i lost half of one once) and a V-cutter. i'd love to make my collection "complete".

nofeardiver 09-02-2011 06:34 PM

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My mom always said don't knock it till you have tried it. I would try it once to see how it is looks kind of wild... The only thing that would concern me is if a kid got a hold of the and stuck his or her finger in hat or if an adult picked it or had it their pocket and acidently put their finger in it.ouch see un safe by just my opinion.

jjmitchem 09-02-2011 09:20 PM

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I got a free one with an order of cigars. I tried it once and the end of my cigar was all torn up. The thing went right into the garbage.

vinnydisilvio 09-03-2011 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jjmitchem (Post 1396886)
I got a free one with an order of cigars. I tried it once and the end of my cigar was all torn up. The thing went right into the garbage.

yeah, i've heard that can happen too. did you turn the cutter or cigar once the cigar was inside? apparently when it first started coming out, some people were turning it and getting torn up cigars because it was designed to cut the cigar just by pushing the cigar in and then taking it out.

by the way, i love the Spurgeon quote on your sig. nice!

jjmitchem 09-05-2011 12:40 PM

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Nope. Straight in and straight out. Ended up smoking a shaggy from the shaggy end

Yes, I love that quote too :)

colinb913 10-11-2011 01:24 PM

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Blak Smyth 10-11-2011 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by colinb913 (Post 1436821)
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:sh

T.G 10-11-2011 01:33 PM

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Best. Post. Ever.


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