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Someone asked about Hulu. I think it sucks. It is chocked full of ads and many of the shows I want to watch (Justified, Southland) either aren't available or are only available watching via the web, I can't stream it through my xbox. I don't want to sit in front of the computer, I want to sit on my couch.

Right now there isn't one service that does all movies and TV shows well. Netflix has been the best option among poor options, in my opinion if you get both DVD's and streaming. Now that they've raised their prices I'll reevaluate whether they are still the best option.

At the end of the day consumers want content on demand on their schedule. The movie/TV rights holders don't want to give that to us because it harms their current revenue model (ads). So, until the rights holders start treating their customers well, we will be stuck with a few options, none of them that good.

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I just changed my subscription to streaming only from 3 DVDs/streaming. I will go with Redbox for any new releases that I just can't wait to hit the movie channels.

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Just an FYI for all those using Redbox for new releases. There is a program called Vudu which streams brand-spankin' new releases they day the hit shelves, redboxes, etc. However the clincher is that they stream in full 1080p and 5.1 surround sound :tu Its a good $2 more than Redbox but its worth it for me to start streaming instantly and not have to worry about returning it late etc.

I use it often :xxx

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Thanks Týr. Two bucks is still way cheaper than Comcast charges for on demand new releases.

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This could be really cool -- I will have to check and see if it works with my Roku box...

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Some interesting information on the back story

http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmo...lixs-problems/

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Now things are making sense! Thanks for the update Mark.

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Figured a big bump in price would be coming, but I didn't expect 100%. However, I expected it to be caused by those owning the highways that are or will be getting choked. I'm sure that Netflix will continue to raise the rates on my rental vehicle and Cox will continue to raise the cost of the gas and tolls. At some point I'll cry uncle - but not quite yet.

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One can hope that with the increase in price Netflix will be able to procure more content for streaming...

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Does it work with Roku? If it does I may have to look at going that route since the BluRay only Streams Netflix and Pandora.

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Closed my Netflix account today. Streaming options leave a lot to be desired and I've had the same DVD for at least 3 months now. Just not using it...too busy with school.

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I've heard about this, Mark, but I'm not sure I buy it 100% It sounds like the same line the cable companies throw out each year about the rising cost of cable.

Still, there's some truth to it. The distributors such as Paramount, Sony, and the other big names are greedy (see theater prices these days) and the ISPs are aggravated with Netflix as well.

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I agree with you and theater prices around here are insane. The closest theater to me charges $11 for a single showing. :td I can imagine it is the same thing with Netflix. As the distributors see how well Netflix is doing they start wanting a bigger and bigger piece of the pie.

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I have a tough time believing that is the case too simply because of the lackluster selection offered on streaming. The movie companies should be excited that people are willing to watch a lot of the old and outdated movies. If Netflix made new releases available at the same time as the DVDs I would be happy to keep them but that just has not been the case.

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dropped em as soon as I got the email. Seems bad business to raise prices on existing members.

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Think I will keep the streaming and discontinue the "to my door." Really sucks though, have been a customer for over 6 years or so.

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I dropped them when I deployed. I could not figure out for the life of my how to change my address to an APO. Turns out all you have to to is call. Oh well.....who wants to wait 10 days between movies anyways.

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http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/19/n...ster-says-its/

Netflix is splitting streaming and DVD into 2 separate companies. I think it will al be OK in the end...but as a stock holder this makes me nervous.
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http://blog.netflix.com/2011/09/expl...id=netflixBlog
A hollow "apology" and what appears to be a lovely piece of misdirection that would work at an 8-year olds magic show.

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Yeah, I got that e-mail. If they are so sorry, they should lower their prices :td

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This is crap, i'm done with em as soon as I finish the sopranos and boston legal heh.

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Funny they suddenly send out an "I'm sorry" email this morning. I'm sure the fact their stock has dropped close to 50% has nothing to do with it. :rolleyes:

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Don't use them enough as it is, this gave me a reason to cancel the subscription this morning.

I do find it funny that they changed the name of the disc rental and used netflix for the streaming.

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They probably changed the name of the DVD rental because of all the existing devices used for streaming already stating Netflix ready and such. I dropped the DVD section of my plan and am about to drop the Streaming as well. I have a Amazon prime account and find nearly all the streaming content I'm looking for in Amazons free streaming content. A price increase without the service really changing for the better is never a good thing for the consumer.l

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Tell me more about this Amazon prime thing. Pm if you want

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I dropped the dvd shipping option, and I'm also ready to drop the streaming option. I use streaming a lot, so it's a tougher choice.
We're looking at changing from cable to directv, and if we make that move, we'll definately drop Netflix.
I got the email as well. I thought it was too little too late. It just put an exclamation point on how poorly they handled everything.

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For those who may not have received an email apology and want to know the scope of what is happening with Netflix:

Blog

Doesn't sound like the old prices will be restored (kind of ambiguous)... "we’re done with that!"

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Wow that feeback on that blog is awesome! People just blasting them (as well as they should be)

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I'm pretty bummed about the whole thing. I use both the DVD and streaming. If all the content I wanted was available for streaming that's all I'd use. I've chatted with a few of our Canadian inmates who said they never had the DVD option, AND, they can stream stuff we can't since the DVD's are not available to them.

I'm sure they've witheld some streaming content from US audiences for bandwidth/performance reasonses.

Also, I know that they are being sued by the big boys (RIAA I believe) for breaching their distribution agreements. Streaming and DVD in the same pool caused for a lot of legal gray area. I think this is the primary motivation behind the switch. It sucks for us end users of course.

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Same here. Was going to just tuff it out, pay the extra and evaluate the value a little later. But, the email was BS -- the separation of billing sucks, and the separation of queue sites really blows big chunks. That's the last straw for me. The bundled price was attractive in the past, and the bundled interface was enough to keep it around a bit. No more.

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Already shot themselves in the left testicle. Now they have put a round thru their right one. I'm guessing now they have their gun pointing at that appendage in-between, just waiting to pull the trigger!

Two sites, no cross coordination? Netflix is setting it up so they can easily sell off the dvd side at a later (sooner??) date. They promise more, better future content, but they haven't delivered in the past, so that just sounded like "blah, blah, blah" to me!

Thanks for the blog site! I didn't get the e-mail, so I guess I'm not really that important to them after all!!

Sorry, rant over!

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I lost about $2000 in netflix stocks over the last couple weeks... Guess I should have unloaded it when it was up. If I hadn't been paying attention to school and my kids I may have read that story earlier and realized how stupid that idea is...

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I still realized a 330% profit, but still...

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The amount of streaming content Netflix currently offers may weak, and you guys down south have about 1000 fold more streaming content than we do in Canada, but they correct in one thing: physical media like DVD is a dying medium for mass content distribution. I personally see splitting the business off now while the investment in the DVD side is at it's highest (DVD?? seriously? standard def?) makes a lot of sense so that it doesn't drag down the bottom line of the streaming business once it starts to die.

That said, I'm neither a Netflix shareholder or subscriber so my opinion is just that of a mildly interested outsider observer.

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Received an e-mail from them yesterday stating that they know that I left but wanted to inform me that Qwikster will not be and that the price change had to happen. REALLY!?!?
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I got the email as a current subscriber. I've only had streaming only, so none of this has affected me at all, but I have to laugh my ass off at the arrogance this company has displayed. The CEO sent out an email to all subscribers basically saying, "This is what's happening, deal with it. Also, now it's two companies." Now they send out an email basically saying, "So from the flood of people quitting we see that you may be upset. Forget about the whole second company thing. We're still gonna charge you extra, though."

I'll take a serious look at Blockbuster's service as soon as it's available on the PS3 like Netflix is.

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I got that email. I changed from blu-ray and streaming to just streaming. I'd quit altogether, but I can stream Netflix on my Mac, laptop, iPod touch, 360, blu-ray player, and 3DS. I can't do all of that with Blockbuster, Amazon Prime, or Hulu. Netflix has enough Star Trek alone to keep me busy for the next year. For the price of one season of Trek I can get them all for a year streaming on a boatload of devices. Why would I change services now?

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This is exactly what they're banking on, and they are quite correct that physical media is a dying business model compared to streaming content. The physical media side of their business (DVD & BluRay) will probably be killed off entirely within a year or two due to lack of profitability. Personally I can't imagine why you'd ever want the hassles of dealing with DVD's and BluRay's anyway. It's so much easier and more convenient to just stream and/or download everything. Hell, I bought my BluRay player over 2 years ago now and still have yet to put a disc (DVD or BluRay) in it. In fact I'm not even sure if it works :r The next time I take apart the entertainment console it's just getting pulled out and sold full stop.

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I will be a lot more satisfied with Instant if they expand their library. 75% of the stuff I want to watch and search for is DVD only. I deal with what they have currently, and since they jacked up the price on the DVD service I won't be adding that any time soon, but I've seen titles drop off my Instant Queue as they become no longer available and haven't seen a lot of new stuff added.

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Local video store I drove by this afternoon had their sign say "cancel netflix and get $5 in free rentals". Very much of this will kill netflix.

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Yeah, if all 56 local independent video stores across the nation put pressure on amazon, itunes, hulu, vudu, blockbuster, and netflix, they will cause a sting like sandpaper on a callous.

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57

mcs

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I didn't count the one that only carries the foreign films involving whipped cream and shaved llamas. Too specialized.

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This is key. Bandwidth and distribution costs are why more content isn't available for streaming. It sucks because I think most of us would drop the mail service if streaming content had half of what is available via DVD/BR.

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58 if you're counting the one my Aunt Enis just started out of her living room. She finally got the settlement check from Uncle Myron being maimed in that exploding tube of Preparation H incident.:banger

More importantly - licensing fees. Starz wouldn't accept the insane dollar amounts (~$200 million for a single year IIRC) for Netflix to obtain the right to stream content. They can't afford everything and/or the entities aren't willing to sell the rights to Netflix.
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That's what I meant by distribution costs, aka paying the movie distributors for the right to offer it via streaming.

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If you do cancel, make sure it is the last day of your billing cycle. No refunds and no partial credit and cancellation is immediate.

I was billed and then I realized I forgot to cancel, so the next day I logged on and canceled. I had 1d of the billing cycle and then no longer had access and not refund. If I signed back up for the month they were going to charge me again.

I finally got a refund when I asked for a copy of my agreement, not what is online, but what was when I signed up, and the address for a summons. They could not provide the agreement and gave me a refund...

My fault for not reading fine print, but shady on their part to just keep money without providing the service paid for.

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What ever happened with this? Did you all drop Netflix?
I am thinking about getting rid of cable and just getting Netflix but not sure if they would have enough content to satisfy my needs.

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I've kept both for the time being. Nice to be able to sit down and watch something streaming. My queue is 150 titles long!