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I'm starting to believe 190 is attainable for you, Dave! Wow!

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Long weekend at the shack. We had "healthy meals" lots of fruits, veggies adn chicken as the primary meat. Drank like a fish, but walked the island each day.

204.5 this morning. :)

I'm starting to get confident about making it to 199.

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Congratulations, Dave! Walking is very good exercise. I'm sure you are like me and have fond memories of walking to school, uphill both ways. :tu

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Don't forget the chopping of wood before and after school. :D

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Wow things have happened quickly.

Been on customer golf outings the past couple of days in the heat. Continued the normal workouts and have eaten on average 1000 calories a day for the past couple of weeks.


199.9 last night after my workout, 199.6 this morning. :banger


The goal (Revised down a couple times) has been met. Seems like a new goal might be in order, and this is the last one.

the answer to the to.... is going to be 195. Pretty sure I can keep things between there and 200 and I''m sick of buying new clothes.

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Bravo! Check out Larabars- healthy, tasty bars in many flavors.

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Can I have your old clothes, Dave? ;) :r

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Great job! Hard work and determination always pay off. Keep it up!

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Congrats Dave! Very, very impressive.

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Kudos big, er little, guy. :)

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Well done, my man. I knew you'd do it. :tu
You're gonna pass me up. Slow down a little, will ya?
How bout you catch me at 195 and we'll race to 185? I'll even bet you five bucks to make it interesting. :D

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Great job!

All us skinny people at Shack this year means we can fit more onto the jetty!:r

Down almost 50 myself since last year.

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Not gonna happen. 195 is my self imposed lower limit. (ok maybe 190) Thinking it's a "healthy weight" for me. Based upon BMI, Body fat etc, my theoretical low is around 182-185 but that is with a 4% body fat, not sustainable or healthy for the non-athlete, grandfather that I am. :)

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I have no idea what my theoretical low is, I only understood about half the words you said. I was 185 for lots of years before I got fat and I wrestled 165 in 7th grade, so I figured around 175 for an old guy?
How does one figure out what they "should" weigh?

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Remember to add the 10 pounds of undigested red meat in your colon to the numbers. :)

The Published BMI tools are out there. Most of them are BS as they dont take into account different "body types", muscle mass etc.

I was a swimmer in HS. 185 pounds and you had to look for any fat.. probably in the 8-11%% of body fat range.

College got in the 200 pound range without the "fitness" associated with my prior good habits. Probably moved into the 22-24% range.

Without getting out the calipers or going in for a rigorous test... this is a fairly good tool you can use with just a tape measure to calculate your body fat % which is different than your BMI:

http://www.bmi-calculator.net/body-fat-calculator/

It's not perfect but gives you a sense of things. Says I'm at 17.2 but in reality I'm a little lower than that based upon body type, muscle mass etc.

I tend to agree with this overall view:

http://www.bmi-calculator.net/body-f...-fat-chart.php

Feeling pretty fit and losing another 5 lbs put me in the middle of the range so it makes sense based upon my experience. The simple height and weight calculators out there are wacked.

The other sources that use the height weight formula to calculate BMI but tend to want you to be a skeleton before they consider you healthy and it's just not realistic.

It's helpful to find out your BMR (Basic metabolic rate) and then use the Harris Benedict Equation to figure out your basic calorie needs. It's an eye opener but explains why you lose or gain weight based upon activity and calorie consumption.

But... have found that for me, an hour a day of cardio + 1000-1300 calories is the formula for rapid weight loss. Less cardio - less loss, more calories less loss. Have sdjusted the cardio up to this point over the past 110 days and the calories down over that time from 2500 to current levels.

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I know one thing, I only see you once a year, and the last time I saw you was STARK change for the better.
I was muy impressed. Wish I could say I took that as motivation, but I am bigger than ever. Good thing about
the shack though, there's always somebody bigger than me. ;)

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Hallies boyfriends family came to town from NH. Spent 4 days with us at the shack. Ate and drank .... way to much. Came back and the tale of the scale was ugly... 206. Been working on it for a couple days. Back to 202 this morning.

The folks at Zoup must be missing me by now been almost a week. On the good news front my morning push-ups are now one set of 150 vs the break after a 100. Feeling stronger and looking leaner. It's just much harder to lose weight now.

195 is going to be the end point for this. 2 more weeks and then maintenance mode. Whatever that means.

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That's what I'm waiting to hear about. I have no clue how that part works.

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Thanks for sharing - as many have said it is motivating and makes me proud to see your results. What it makes me realize is that I need to up the cardio and push-ups to get down to 240 on my way to 220.
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Congrats! I've been on a slow weight loss ride since the heart attack a couple years ago. Not quite as good at it as you have been, but have dropped 50 lbs slowly just replacing driving with riding my bike.

Keep it up, man, I see good things!

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congratz Dave, great job.........wish I could walk, but my injuries make to hard to exercise.....but I try to watch what I eat, was 198 when I returned from Afghanistan and went up to a high of 231 now down to 224 and holding

will see the new you in 21 days

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Yup.... and radical reductions in calories. Gotta do it all or it just doesnt work, at least for me.

Good on ya! Slow is much better way to go than the crash progarm I have been on. It's hard and hard on you. My experience with this has led me to lifestyle changes regarding eating and exercise that I hope will stick with me when the drive to lose is finished.

There are infinite ways to exercise that can help. Just tightening your butt muscles a few hundred times a day burns significant calories. 12 pound hand weights. Leg lifts, etc. It comes down to choices. If you choose to do what you can to achieve a goal and actually stick with doing those things consistently over a long enough period, it will happen.

Hit it hard last night with the usual routine plus swam with Jane for a half hour. Got back to 200.1 this morning after doing a morning trip on the Airdyne for the first time. Maybe going to 2 a days is what I need to get to the end point of this.

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It's Deja Vu all over again. 199.9 this morning after a morning workout. Probably more of a real weight this time vs a week ago when I hit the same number. Ate well last night so its not a stretch like last week was.

Definitely much harder to move lower from here than it has been. Keep hitting plateaus that are tough, tough tough to break through. Hoping it was just my zeal last week to push to a number now reflected in a more normal weight.

Yesterday started doing the cardio in the morning as well as at night. Almost 2 hours a day. Going to try this for the last couple of weeks of my journey of weight loss to see where I can end up. Still think 195 or a bit lower is attainable just not sure it's a weight I can stay at given what it takes to get and stay there.

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:tu

I've been stuck in the 195 area for about 6 weeks now. Keep pushing!

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Just keep doing healthy stuff, Pap. I've stalled around 193, it seems. I hit it before much like you explained your brush with 199.9. I went back up to around 198 and came down slowly to this again, without effort.
I think you're taller than me, so we both might have hit rock bottom for our ages. I hope not, I'd like to get rid of the rest of this gut first. :tu

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Jumped on the scale post... err um expulsion, pre lunch 198. :)

Looked over the stats and realized I have been trying to push the numbers.

Weight loss by month:

April - 20
May - 10
June -15
July - 17 so far. (been trying for 20 by Aug 5th.)

Need to stop obsessing about this. Unfortunately I am who I am. :)

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I assume you plan to keep up with the cardio work even after your final goal is met, Dave? Good for the heart, ya know. :)

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I hope so. Been hitting things lately at a level that 4 months ago would have killed me. Need to find a calorie and exercise balance that is sustainable... but not just yet. :)

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Friday worked out before leaving for the lake. 197.8 after workout the new low point. Walked the island 2x on sat and sunday morning. Came home last night dreading the scale. After working out... 199.5. This morning post AM ride... 198.5. This is the lowest I have started out a week at. Feeling pretty confident that 195 is within reach by Friday with the "2 a days" and avoiding the strawberry and peach sundaes I ate over the weekend. Friday marks 4 months of this crazy weight loss process. need to decide if that ends the manic "loss" program or if there is room and/or inclination to go lower.

I don't feel thin. Feeling fitter but not necessarily thinner. Does weight loss turun you into a 16 year old girl? :D

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Just by the look of your face in the most recent pick it is obvious you are thinner, Dave.

I can't comment on 16 year old girls in any fashion per my probation officer. ;)

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First, outstanding job so far, this is terrific progress! :banger But second, what you've stated is great advice. Weight loss is so much harder as you get older--the ol' body just doesn't want to shed the pounds like it would have when your chemistry was different.

Couple things you might want to consider:

1. Cutting out the bad calories is good, but just make sure you're not running at too much of a deficit. Ya gotta feed the machine to burn fat. Sometimes people get stuck at a weight because they aren't eating enough. Counter-intuitive, but true.
2. It sounds like you are varying up your exercise routine, so that's good. Resistance/strength training is key to fat loss. You may not see it in the scale since you're adding muscle mass, so maybe take a few measurements (waist, chest, bicep) and note any progress. As you see changes, that will make you feel better about the stuck scale. ;)

Keep up the great work!

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Just a thought, but maybe ignore the scale for a while. Keep doing what you're doing with the exception of checking the weight for a bit. The lower we get, the longer it takes to burn up that last few pounds, which can get frustrating. I've found that if, at least for a while, I concerntrate more on how much better I feel than how much I've taken off, I stay motivated. Then, when I finally capitulate and step on the scale, I'm usually pleasantly surprised!

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Too obsessed to ignore the scale. I do weigh ins pre and post workouts. 198 even this morning after working out, which is good as there is movement to come that will create movement. (Hey its an old guy thing).

Got up at 6:15 and hit the bike hard for an hour. Did the 150 push ups and 150 crunches. Plan on Zoup for lunch 350 calories and maybe go easier on dinner today less than 1000. Ate about 2500-3000 calories yesterday because my body was telling me it needed it. Last night - Pre workout weighed in at 203... arrgh. Post was 199.

Your point is well taken though regarding feeling better. I do. Seem to be poised to make the sub 195 move sometime in the next week or so if the pattern is similar to the past plateaus.

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196.5 This morning new low. But the only way to make it to 195 by tomrrow is a little fast today. Thinking about it but zoup sends its siren song email each morning. :)

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:tu:tu

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http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...soupnazi-1.jpg

No Zoup for you! :D

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The tee on that one was tall and pretty. :D

The question is ... when 195 is reached... am I "out" :D

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I won a contest. :)

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Daily winner? :noon

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Have you tried "HIIT" training where you max out for 30sec-1min every 2 or 3 min(or variations thereupon)? Might be the push your body needs......

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I'm bull headed about this subject. Been using the "Sinatra method" i.e. doing it my way. Seems to have worked so far though trying to go much lower might require a different method.

The next phase of this might require what you suggest. Weight loss and general fitness improvement was the initial goal. Now it might evolve into more of a general fitness, targeted program to eliminate some "trouble spots". Chest is not as fit as back after all the push ups being the primary example.

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Just bought new pants ..... for the 4th time now.

34 shorts!! (from 42)

M - workout shorts (from XXL)

Should have bought stock in Dicks...

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Dave, my BMI says I'm 27.98. It says if I was 175, I'd be 25.11, which still means I'm fat. I don't buy that. I would if it weren't for my musculature. This Isaac's sh1t makes my muscles work 24/7, and I've got serious muscles.
I still have a gut and side and back fat that would definately amount to another 20 pounds. I suppose when I get to 175 I can reassess? At that point I'll bug you for a real BMI thing you do with a measuring tape and stuff.

On a good note, I got new shorts. A couple pair of 34's. They're falling off me already.

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Ignore the BMI its BS

Try this one:
http://www.healthcentral.com/cholest...-2774-143.html

It factors in age and some measurements vs just height and weight.

Says I am at 15 or so which jives with my view.

BMI says 25.8% which would mean I have 50 Lbs of body fat ... after losing 65 pounds. That is total BS and easy to prove it.

Using the BMI calculator from my starting point:

260 pounds - Yields - 34.5 or 89.7 pounds of fat

current calculation:

195 pounds - Yields - 25.8 or 50.3 pounds of fat

So the 65 pounds I lost contained only 39.4 of fat? What was the rest?

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What, like Chippendale's stock? :noon

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WTF?!? dude dave! i wear 32s and M in workout shorts too! :tu

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Here's mine now...
You have 22.8% body fat.
You have 44.5 Pounds of fat and 150.5 Pounds of lean (muscle, bone, body water).

So if I follow that trend, what is a decent weight for old Dad here?
Ahhh, it says the average american is at 22%, and I should be around 15%. Does that sound right?

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"They want us to be rail thin" Easier to stack us in the overcrowded nursing homes as we age. :D

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Drum roll.....

The smell of victory is actually pretty nasty around my exercise bike... but......

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/879/victoryi.jpg

Time to stabilize and find a balance in my life that includes the occasional cheeseburger and fries.

April 5 through August 5th - total weight loss 65.3 pounds.

Pants from 42 to 34

Shirts from XXL to L

Third party exercise and diet advice - $ 0

Actual cost - thus far about $ 2500. (bought 40, 38, 36, and now 34 pants plus all sorts of shirts and exercise wear)

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Congrats Dave!!! :tu