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jluck 02-03-2012 10:07 PM

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Wow....this thread makes me feel really dumb. I will stick to cigars...:r

mithrilG60 02-03-2012 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1245516)
If you're serving media to the whole house, storing video, music, pics, etc, it takes no time at all to load up 10TB. This bluray thing makes it even worse.

This. I have a pair of 10TB media servers at home and both will soon need extra drives to expand out to 12 or 14.

shilala 02-04-2012 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by backwoods357 (Post 1548911)
Scott, maybe you could create a junction point for the itunes bloat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_ju...ing_disk_space
If you move the itunes directory to the spinning disks and then create a junction in C: where it was, pointing to the new location you should be able to reclaim your space.

If you do decide to go for a larger SSD, there is a wealth of information in this recent article. http://techreport.com/articles.x/22358/1
And hey it's only 13 pages long. ;)

You have the coolest projects. :tu

The junction point needs to be built into the program, or I'd have to create a subroutine, from what I can see. It does present a cool workaround, but it's WAY over my head.
What I've done is saved file trees and media folders and backups to a different drive. Once I delete itunes, I can drop those folders back in the new instance of itunes on the different drive. That should solve my problem.
Even if itunes burns down, I don't care. I'll start from scratch. I really won't lose anything. :)

backwoods357 02-04-2012 09:36 AM

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It is a feature of NTFS (the filesystem) so really you create it once (using a command in the command line or a utility to run it for you and you are done) and the program sees the data as being in it's original location but it occupies no space on that drive. If you need more info if you pm me the folder location and the path where you want to move the files to I should be able to pm you the cmd to create the junction or you can use this app: http://www.rekenwonder.com/linkmagic.htm
I can't personally vouch for it, I just found it in a quick google. You would need to completely close itunes first, even the crap that runs in the background. Then copy the folder to its new home and delete the contents of the origional. Right click on the app and run as admin then click create. select the original folder on the left and the new folder on the right. Should do the trick.

shilala 02-04-2012 10:41 AM

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I did much like that, Jorgen. I just saved folders, reinstalled on another drive and replaced folders. It all went smoothly, zero issues, and I cleaned up 40gb or so.
I had migrated folders within itunes earlier and the new install recognized them on the new drive, so it went even smoother than I'd planned. :D

I'm right where I want to be, but I still have a boot issue. It's either this ASUS software running cool n quiet and overheating my cpu, or I have a short in one of my rails, or the ram is running at too low a voltage.
It likes to hang in Bios and sometimes booting Windows, but only when she's hot.
I'm building a reef water system right now, so this has got to wait. Usually a little time away puts the answer in my melon. I'll get it ironed out soon. :tu

Bill86 02-04-2012 10:48 AM

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I would just look up CPU fans and just get a really nice CPU fan for $20-$50 bucks or so.

My old fan was like 10 years old. Ridiculously huge fan. Now it sits on my router :r

Keeps that thing nice and cool :D

Just rocking the stock fan now without a problem.

backwoods357 02-04-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1549295)
Usually a little time away puts the answer in my melon. I'll get it ironed out soon. :tu

:tpd:

A digital power supply tester can be had for cheap: 1 2 3 They are great for diagnosing voltage problems.
If you don't need one long term, I need a digital one and would be willing to buy you out when you are done with it.
Have you run a full memtest from a boot cd? Iso or auto installer for flashdrive This happening on boot intermittently makes me think of power draw from all the HDs spinning up at once. Does it happen without the raid array?
Cool and quiet can be turned off in the bios, also what thermal paste did you use on the processor?

Scothew 02-04-2012 11:49 AM

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Not sure i caught the whole itunes issue, but you can point it to where ever your media is and have it run it there, just go to preferences > advanced. it can be on other drives and such.

shilala 02-04-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by backwoods357 (Post 1549339)
:tpd:

A digital power supply tester can be had for cheap: 1 2 3 They are great for diagnosing voltage problems.
If you don't need one long term, I need a digital one and would be willing to buy you out when you are done with it.
Have you run a full memtest from a boot cd? Iso or auto installer for flashdrive This happening on boot intermittently makes me think of power draw from all the HDs spinning up at once. Does it happen without the raid array?
Cool and quiet can be turned off in the bios, also what thermal paste did you use on the processor?

No, I haven't run memtest, great idea. :tu
This ram is supposed to run at 1.5v and I haven't been able to see what it's set at in bios, so I'm not even that far yet.
I think you hit the nail on the head with the hdd's all spinning up at once.
No, I don't think I had issues yesterday with them all unhooked, but I'm not exactly sure. I wasn't focusing on power draw, I was thinking short.
None of my hdd's are in raid. They all stand alone, I just backup one to another. They're just for media. This way I know when one pukes.
I also saw my H drive drop out twice, so I need to isolate and see which that one is and check backwards.
I'll do all that later when I have time.
It's working fine now that it's booted, and I never shut it down, so I can fight it when I have time.
I'll look at those testers, too, brother. Thank You!!! :tu
Oh, and Arctic Silver. Not the cheap one, the expensive one.

backwoods357 02-04-2012 05:49 PM

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If I ever go completely storage nuts I think I will build a rig taking a page from BackBlaze's book.
http://blog.backblaze.com/2011/07/20...-more-secrets/ 135TB in a 4u server chassis. :noon
http://files.backblaze.com/blog_pics...orage-Pod2.jpg
I wouldn't go for the full 135, I would be more than happy with 24 or 32TB. A few weeks ago I actually came across one of these in a data center. :tu
BTW that pic is one I just grabbed from their blog for illustration.

hammondc 02-04-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1245231)
Basically, it's a six core AMD, 9.8TB, 16GB RAM, dual PSU monster in the sweetest full tower aluminum chassis I've ever seen. If I can't take over the world with this rig, it can't be taken over. Period[/IMG]

Dear God....:O

sikk50 02-04-2012 11:30 PM

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I miss your project of the day threads

shilala 02-05-2012 09:23 AM

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They're boring now, Andrew. Yesterday I installed an RODI system with a pre-salterizer that I modified from my old RODI unit. That stuff is for super clean drinking water at the sink and zero ppm water (100% pure) for my salt water tank.
My next project is putting in a whole house water conditioner. I started that last night, I'm gonna take off a material list this morning.
After that, I have to run a bunch of circuits to the garage to finish turning it into a shop. Then I have to finish cabinetry for the shop. Then I'm buying a CNC machine for the shop to build cabinet doors and stuff.
Then the Projects Of The Day will be pumping out like wildfire. :D

shilala 02-05-2012 09:29 AM

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I woke up to my H: Drive dropping out.
I'm copying that drive to an open drive right now. I'll the isolate it and eradicate it.
It's the third time I've seen it drop out. If it's on SATA 3 on my board, I may be able to assume that channel is flaky.
I have time to mess with it this morning. There's almost a TB of crap on that H drive, so it'll take awhile. I think I'll do away with it altogether and heed Jorgen's warning about too much stuff spinning up at once.
I may RMA this drive, it's a new 2TB. I'd like to keep the 2TB's and get rid of the 1-1.5TB I have in there.

backwoods357 02-05-2012 09:49 AM

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Run HD tune on the disk http://www.hdtune.com/files/hdtune_255.exe. Make sure to select the proper disk from the drop down at the top then go to the error scan tab and run a long test. Take a look at the health tab, should give you a good picture of the drives health.

Edit: thinking more about this it may be that you have a single rail on one PS overloaded. I'm not sure about your power supplies but many have 2 or more rails per PS these days.
Edit2: Nope, my stupid. I didn't actually look it up first, that PS has a single 12v rail.

shilala 02-05-2012 10:13 AM

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There's dual 600w psu's daisy chained, Jorgen.
I was real careful to split duty. I moved some stuff around, thinking the same thing you were thinking. Still the same thing.
I'll run a bunch of tests after I safeguard the data. If I had one solid guess right now, it's that the H: drive is on SATA port 3. I think it's the culprit. That's just gut, though. I'll need to be far more systematic to get down to the bottom of this little glitch.


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