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Subvet642 01-07-2011 01:15 PM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 1123300)
:r Maybe he'll shorten that zero production streak down from 5 to 4 weeks :r

And you still don't have a catcher worth a damn :tu

Well, I guess there goes the whole season! :=:

The Poet 01-07-2011 01:28 PM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 1123136)
Last season he had 102 RBIs and an OBP of .370 as well as being an All Star.


And don't forget, he was 0-for-0 in the playoffs, which is batting a thousand! :tu

jonumberone 01-07-2011 01:36 PM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 1123371)
And don't forget, he was 0-for-0 in the playoffs, which is batting a thousand! :tu

:r :r

Subvet642 01-07-2011 01:41 PM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 1123371)
And don't forget, he was 0-for-0 in the playoffs, which is batting a thousand! :tu

And that means...what?

The Poet 01-07-2011 01:49 PM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 1123136)
Last season he had 102 RBIs and an OBP of .370 as well as being an All Star.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 1123393)
And that means...what?


I could not say it better myself. :D

MedicCook 01-07-2011 11:12 PM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Yankees Trivia:
In 1951, which Yankees pitcher became the first American League moundsman to toss two no-hitters in one season?

Bonus prize if you have the dates of the no-hitters.

Since it is the weekend I will give you until Monday to make your guess (remember only cheaters use google).

This Date in Yankees History:
1986 - Yankees signed Joe & Phil Niekro and Butch Wynegar.
1987 - Yankees signed Willie Randolph & Tommy John.
1998 - Yankees signed Darryl Strawberry.
2007 - Yankees signed Doug Mientkiewicz.

Yankees Birthdays:
Carl Pavano (he probably hurt himself blowing out his candles), Jason Giambi

MedicCook 01-07-2011 11:24 PM

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The Yankees lost another member of the family on Thursday. Ryne Duren pitched for the Yankees from 1958 - 1961. He had a 100 mph fastball and was known for his wild throws while warming up on the mound. He was an All*Star three times. He pitched in two World Series with the Yankees winning a ring in 1958.

Ryne Sandberg was named after Duren.

http://www.fangraphs.com/not/wp-cont.../12/Duren1.jpg

Subvet642 01-08-2011 07:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 1123407)
I could not say it better myself. :D

I'm looking forward to some great games between the Sox and Yanks this season; I can't wait for Opening Day! :tu

jonumberone 01-08-2011 09:09 AM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 1124196)
I'm looking forward to some great games between the Sox and Yanks this season; I can't wait for Opening Day! :tu

:tpd:

VirtualSmitty 01-09-2011 09:49 AM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 1124196)
I'm looking forward to some great games between the Sox and Yanks this season; I can't wait for Opening Day! :tu

Me neither, i'm going! Except I think we are playing the Tigers :D

MedicCook 01-10-2011 03:52 PM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 1124075)
Yankees Trivia:
In 1951, which Yankees pitcher became the first American League moundsman to toss two no-hitters in one season?

Bonus prize if you have the dates of the no-hitters.


Answer:

Allie Reynolds; July 12 and September 28,1951.

MedicCook 01-10-2011 04:04 PM

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Yankees Fact:
In 1978, Ron Guidry set the record for the highest single-season winning percentage for a pitcher with 20 or more wins, posting a .893 average (25 wins and 3 losses) for the Yankees.

MedicCook 01-10-2011 11:45 PM

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Trivia:
Hideki Matsui made his Major League debut with the Yankees in 2003, finishing second in the Rookie of the Year Award voting to what shortstop with the Kansas City Royals?

MedicCook 01-10-2011 11:58 PM

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This Date in Yankees History:

1/11/2005 - The New York Yankees traded Brad Halsey, Dioner Navarro, Javier Vazquez and cash to the Arizona Diamondbacks for Randy Johnson.

1/11/1977 - The New York Yankees drafted Willie McGee in the 1st round (15th pick) of the 1977 amateur draft (January Secondary). Player signed June 6, 1977.

1/11/1965 - Yankees first baseman Wally Pipp (1915-1925) died.

jonumberone 01-11-2011 04:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 1127843)
Trivia:
Hideki Matsui made his Major League debut with the Yankees in 2003, finishing second in the Rookie of the Year Award voting to what shortstop with the Kansas City Royals?

Easy one

Angel Barroa....... He played for the Yanks in 09 I believe!

I hope I win the same prize as the last time :D

MedicCook 01-11-2011 10:17 AM

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The Yankees are 'stepping up' their pursuit of Justin Duchscherer and still showing interest in Jeff Francis and Jeremy Bonderman.

Meanwhile Andy Favre.... I mean Andy Pettitte still has not decided if he will play or retire.

MedicCook 01-11-2011 10:19 AM

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Luis Sojo is back to manage the Tampa Yankees for 2011.

Subvet642 01-11-2011 10:25 AM

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If I may...

Trivia question:
Who were the Yankees prior to 1900?

MedicCook 01-11-2011 10:25 AM

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Not sure if anyone saw but the little girl that was killed in the Tucson shooting was the daughter of former Yankee John Green. Her grandfather was former Yankee manager Dallas Green. Condolences to her family and the other families affected by the attack.

MedicCook 01-11-2011 10:28 AM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 1128265)
If I may...

Trivia question:Who were the Yankees prior to 1900?

They did not exist then. They were founded in 1901 as the Baltimore Orioles, then moved to New York in 1903 as the Highlanders then became the Yankees in 1913.

Subvet642 01-11-2011 10:40 AM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 1128270)
They did not exist then. They were founded in 1901 as the Baltimore Orioles, then moved to New York in 1903 as the Highlanders then became the Yankees in 1913.

Not quite; They were the Baltimore Orioles of the National League. They switched leagues in 1901.

MedicCook 01-11-2011 10:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 1128287)
Not quite; They were the Baltimore Orioles of the National League. They switched leagues in 1901.

Not quite. The Baltimore Orioles of the National League were contracted as a team after the 1900 season by the National League. The 'Yankees' a brand new team with no home tried to go to NY but the Giants blocked the move into the city. They then went to Baltimore in 1901 the first season of the franchise which is now called the New York Yankees.

Subvet642 01-11-2011 11:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 1128294)
Not quite. The Baltimore Orioles of the National League were contracted as a team after the 1900 season by the National League. The 'Yankees' a brand new team with no home tried to go to NY but the Giants blocked the move into the city. They then went to Baltimore in 1901 the first season of the franchise which is now called the New York Yankees.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BLO/

http://www.baseball-reference.com/ma...cgrajo01.shtml

As the bottom link shows if you scroll down, they were the old Baltimore Orioles of the National League.

MedicCook 01-11-2011 11:21 AM

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The Baltimore Orioles of the National League (pre-1900) are not the same franchise as the Baltimore Orioles of the American League (1901).

Subvet642 01-11-2011 11:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 1128344)
The Baltimore Orioles of the National League (pre-1900) are not the same franchise as the Baltimore Orioles of the American League (1901).

Yes they are; that is why you will find that Mugsy McGraw was Player/Manager from 1899 through 1902.

MedicCook 01-11-2011 11:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 1128360)
Yes they are; that is why you will find that Mugsy McGraw was Player/Manager from 1899 through 1902.

John McGraw played for the Baltimore Orioles of the NL 1891-1899 and as a player manager in 1899. 1900 he played for the St. Louis Cardinals. There was no team in Baltimore in 1900 because the National League contracted it. In 1901 a new ownership put a team back in Baltimore and hired John McGraw as the player/manager for the 1901 & 1902 seasons.

Subvet642 01-11-2011 11:45 AM

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Rk Year Tm Lg G W L Ties W-L% Finish Playoffs R RA BatAge PitchAge #Bat #Pitch Top Player Managers
1 1899 Baltimore Orioles NL 152 86 62 4 .581 4th of 12 827 691 27.2 26.1 24 7 J.McGraw (8.6) John McGraw (86-62)
2 1898 Baltimore Orioles NL 154 96 53 5 .644 2nd of 12 933 623 27.2 25.4 24 7 H.Jennings (8.8) Ned Hanlon (96-53)
3 1897 Baltimore Orioles NL 136 90 40 6 .692 2nd of 12 964 674 27.1 23.1 20 8 H.Jennings (8.1) Ned Hanlon (90-40)
4 1896 Baltimore Orioles NL 132 90 39 3 .698 1st of 12 995 662 26.8 25.6 22 9 H.Jennings (9.3) Ned Hanlon (90-39)
5 1895 Baltimore Orioles NL 132 87 43 2 .669 1st of 12 1009 646 25.5 25.7 20 8 H.Jennings (9.1) Ned Hanlon (87-43)
6 1894 Baltimore Orioles NL 129 89 39 1 .695 1st of 12 1171 819 25.9 26.3 20 10 J.Kelley (7.1) Ned Hanlon (89-39)
7 1893 Baltimore Orioles NL 130 60 70 0 .462 8th of 12 820 893 26.3 26.7 25 8 S.McMahon (4.8) Ned Hanlon (60-70)
8 1892 Baltimore Orioles NL 152 46 101 5 .313 12th of 12 779 1020 28.1 25.6 37 14 G.Van Haltren (2.2) George Van Haltren (1-10), John Waltz (2-6) and Ned Hanlon (43-85)
9 1891 Baltimore Orioles AA 139 71 64 4 .526 4th of 9 850 798 26.7 23.7 18 6 S.McMahon (10.6) Billy Barnie (71-64)
10 1890 Baltimore Orioles AA 38 15 19 4 .441 6th of 9 182 192 25.5 21.8 18 5 S.McMahon (1.7) Billy Barnie (15-19)
11 1889 Baltimore Orioles AA 139 70 65 4 .519 5th of 8 791 795 26.6 24.0 23 5 M.Kilroy (10.6) Billy Barnie (70-65)
12 1888 Baltimore Orioles AA 137 57 80 0 .416 5th of 8 653 779 27.0 22.4 23 10 T.Tucker (3.2) Billy Barnie (57-80)
13 1887 Baltimore Orioles AA 141 77 58 6 .570 3rd of 8 975 861 25.7 21.3 17 9 M.Kilroy (13.1) Billy Barnie (77-58)
14 1886 Baltimore Orioles AA 139 48 83 8 .366 8th of 8 625 878 27.5 23.6 31 15 M.Kilroy (6.8) Billy Barnie (48-83)
15 1885 Baltimore Orioles AA 110 41 68 1 .376 8th of 8 541 683 25.4 22.5 32 11 H.Henderson (7.2) Billy Barnie (41-68)
16 1884 Baltimore Orioles AA 108 63 43 2 .594 6th of 13 636 515 26.6 23.3 19 5 H.Henderson (7.0) Billy Barnie (63-43)
17 1883 Baltimore Orioles AA 96 28 68 0 .292 8th of 8 471 742 25.7 22.2 29 8 J.Clinton (0.9) Billy Barnie (28-68)
18 1882 Baltimore Orioles AA 74 19 54 1 .260 6th of 6 273 515 25.8 26.5 23 8 T.Brown (0.4) Henry Myers (19-54)

John "Mugsy" McGraw's managerial time with the Orioles:

Year Age Tm Lg G W L W-L% Finish
1 1899 26 Baltimore Orioles NL 152 86 62 .581 4 Player/Manager
2 1901 28 Baltimore Orioles AL 135 68 65 .511 5 Player/Manager
3 1902 29 Baltimore Orioles AL 1st of 2 58 26 31 .456 8 Player/Manager

MedicCook 01-11-2011 12:00 PM

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You are not getting it. Same city, same name, but not the same franchise. The Baltimore Orioles of the NL were done after the 1899 season. The team was contracted, disbanded, destroyed, the players went elsewhere to play in 1900. In 1901 the American League wanted to put a team in New York but the Giants blocked the formation of this new franchise in New York. This new franchise then used their back up plan and went to Baltimore and called themselves the Baltimore Orioles. They hired former Baltimore player/manager McGraw for 1901-1902.

Subvet642 01-11-2011 12:00 PM

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For more information, see the link below from The Yankee Encyclopaedia:


http://books.google.com/books?id=xEo...McGraw&f=false

Subvet642 01-11-2011 12:55 PM

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As I dig deeper into this, I'm finding contradictory information, but not any concrete organizational link. Ryan, it seems that I cannot prove my assertion and therefore must be in error.

VirtualSmitty 01-13-2011 10:14 PM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Yanks inked former Rays Closer Soriano to a three year deal to setup up Mo. Good sign, gives us the best on two punch at the end of the game by far. Too bad he can't start :r

MedicCook 01-13-2011 10:15 PM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
It is needed after finding out that Pettitte will not be returning for 2011. Add in Logan, Joba & Robertson and they could shorten the game down to 6 innings.

jonumberone 01-14-2011 04:52 AM

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I like the move, but I don't understand If they were going to pay 11+ million for a setup man, why not keep Kerry wood? :confused:

MedicCook 01-14-2011 10:28 AM

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Because Soriano is better than Kerry Wood. Plus when Wood signed they still had hope for Pettitte in the rotation.

VirtualSmitty 01-14-2011 10:37 AM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 1132659)
Because Soriano is better than Kerry Wood. Plus when Wood signed they still had hope for Pettitte in the rotation.

Exactly. Soriano is much better than Wood and younger too. Plus it gives us a proven closer if Mo decides to call it quits in three years.

So Yankee fans, think Mariano will pass Hoffman on the all time saves list this year?

MedicCook 01-14-2011 10:38 AM

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This year will be tight I think. As long as he stay's healthy I think he will do it on 2012.

jonumberone 01-14-2011 10:44 AM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 1132659)
Because Soriano is better than Kerry Wood. Plus when Wood signed they still had hope for Pettitte in the rotation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 1132669)
Exactly. Soriano is much better than Wood and younger too. Plus it gives us a proven closer if Mo decides to call it quits in three years.

So Yankee fans, think Mariano will pass Hoffman on the all time saves list this year?

I understand Soriano is younger than Wood, but he proved himself here in NY.
Wood had a 1 year club option at 10 million. We have seen more than 1 closer come here in a setup role and be awful, ala Tom gordon, Kyle Farnsworth.

As for the saves thing, It's kind of like the who's the best HR hitter of all time question. The answer is obviously Babe Ruth even tho people have hit more HR than him.
Hoffman may have more saves but he has always been awful in a big spot and Mo is the better closer regardless of how many saves he has.

VirtualSmitty 01-14-2011 10:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone (Post 1132679)
I understand Soriano is younger than Wood, but he proved himself here in NY.
Wood had a 1 year club option at 10 million. We have seen more than 1 closer come here in a setup role and be awful, ala Tom gordon, Kyle Farnsworth.

As for the saves thing, It's kind of like the who's the best HR hitter of all time question. The answer is obviously Babe Ruth even tho people have hit more HR than him.
Hoffman may have more saves but he has always been awful in a big spot and Mo is the better closer regardless of how many saves he has.

Soriano proved himself in the AL east, thats good enough for me. Remember Wood was struggling in Cleveland when we got him, he turned things around nicely in pinstripes. But he did struggle in the post season, he was too up and down. Soriano at least will have a higher trade value if he flounders in the environment given his track record.

As for all time best closer, there's no doubt in my mind it's Mo. But you still get a few lone Padre fans that point to Hoffmans record, overlooking how bad he was in the post season and the fact he had several more years pitching as a closer than Mo, and use it to try to put him in the same league. Hoffman was great and i'm sad to see him retire but he is a distant second to Rivera in terms of greatness :2

MedicCook 01-18-2011 02:53 PM

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The Yankees avoided arbitration with 3 pitches today.

Phil Hughes goes from $447,000 in 2010 to $2.7M in 2011.
Joba Chamberlain goes from $487,975 in 2010 to $1.4M in 2011.
Boone Logan goes from $590,000 in 2010 to $1.2M in 2011.

The Poet 01-18-2011 03:07 PM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 1138004)
The Yankees avoided arbitration with 3 pitches today.

Phil Hughes goes from $447,000 in 2010 to $2.7M in 2011.
Joba Chamberlain goes from $487,975 in 2010 to $1.4M in 2011.
Boone Logan goes from $590,000 in 2010 to $1.2M in 2011.



Hughes? OK, I guess he earned it.

Joba? Hmmmm . . . OK, I guess they can afford it.

Logan? Uhhhhh . . . ask me again come July or August, OK?

MedicCook 01-18-2011 03:09 PM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Logan was excellent last year. Baseball contract history shows that you get paid for what you did yesterday.

VirtualSmitty 01-18-2011 03:13 PM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 1138025)
Logan was excellent last year. Baseball contract history shows that you get paid for what you did yesterday.

He had a decent season but he got knocked around in the post season. Dunno if he was worth it.

MedicCook 01-18-2011 03:17 PM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 1138031)
He had a decent season but he got knocked around in the post season. Dunno if he was worth it.

He did fine against the Twins, it was Texas that did him in and he was not alone as all the Yankees pitchers got knocked around by the Rangers.

2010 was the best season of his short career. Hopefully he will have some lefty help in the bullpen this year also.

The Poet 01-18-2011 03:26 PM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 1138025)
Logan was excellent last year.

I guess his ERA and BAA were pretty good (2.93 & .231). However, he only pitched 40 total innings, which would mean his "yesterday" earns him $10,000 per out "tomorrow". Plus, he's a righty. Plus plus, his ERAs in four previous "yesterdays" were 5.19 (2009), 5.95 ('08), 4.97 ('07), and . . gulp! . . . 8.31 ('06).

Which is why I said see me after the All Star Break, and not "We wuz robbed!" :r

MedicCook 01-18-2011 03:28 PM

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Logan is a lefty.

The Poet 01-18-2011 03:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 1138054)
Logan is a lefty.

My bad. He bats right.


Or so they say. From what I can find, he's yet to have a hit, so who would know for sure? :D

MedicCook 01-18-2011 03:34 PM

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That's fine with me. I don't like pitchers batting or runnign the bases. Remember Wang.

The Poet 01-18-2011 03:58 PM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 1138070)
That's fine with me. I don't like pitchers batting or runnign the bases. Remember Wang.

I sure do. And what I remember is that damn stupid 3rd base coach waving him around in a game where we already had a big lead.

Who was that dumb bozo, and why wasn't he fired immediately?

VirtualSmitty 01-18-2011 04:07 PM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 1138099)
I sure do. And what I remember is that damn stupid 3rd base coach waving him around in a game where we already had a big lead.

Who was that dumb bozo, and why wasn't he fired immediately?

I think it was Larry Bowa :r

MedicCook 01-18-2011 04:09 PM

Re: New York Yankees 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 1138111)
I think it was Larry Bowa :r

He was in LA with Torre in 2008. I can't remember who the 3rd base coach was.


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