Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB
 

Right after he chastized the Mod Team for not allowing him immediate access to all Forums, as making him wait the 24 hours that everyone else had to wait was "ridiculous".

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Uh-oh! Tom's Nub itches. :r

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Hrmm, both things that I wasn't aware of.

As with the previous posts, thank you for your info/input :tu

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They have medication for that :r

Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB
 

Hey he's a busy guy. :rolleyes:

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What would Sam Leccia know about things that are ridiculous?

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Some rock, eyeroll. :rolleyes:



:hy

He definitely threw a tantrum. He demanded we grant him access. Didn't respectfully ask. Demanded he be treated differently. Needless to say, that went over like a fart at a funeral.
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what, you say that like it isn't a good thing.

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He said it like he's never done it!!!:rolleyes:

Which?
The tantrum or the fart? :pn
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Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB
 

You, obviously, havn't hung out with Peter. :pn

Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB
 

the tantrum


not so much worried about the tantrum :D

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if he's anything like a couple of my techs, then no thanks. :confused:

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I've no interest in nub so this bothers me little. I do need to smoke more olivas though, only smoked the G and V.

From what you guys are saying dude wasn't very cool anyways.

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Maybe it's just me, but I just don't get all this angst. When the Villazon factory recently shut down, nobody here blinked an eye. When Frank Llaneza died, there were a few "RIP"s posted, but that was it. But this guy getting canned . . . perhaps, perhaps not . . . has people in a tizzy, even though Oliva says the cigars will continue unchanged?

:confused:

Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB
 

As mentioned, he acted like d-bag and didn't keep his word at the old forum. That's why many of us don't have a high opinion of him. Not to mention the bs Nub theory.

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But...but...but...the sweet spot!!!!!!!!! :r

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He is silly and fresh in a Kid-N-Play way.

MCS

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Any update on Sam? This is really messin up my weekend.

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That was the dick trick I was thinking of. It was quite a childish display.
Then after all the "I'm so important" sh1t, and his half hearted apology, he disappeared, despite all his promises to be a really swell guy.
Sam can suck it, as far as I'm concerned. :tu

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The "sweet spot". ;)

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All 4x66 of it? :r

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:r:r

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What's the latest? I can't sleep at night.

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Bide your time with some Taboo orders. Don't forget your coupon. :tu

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To many to quote, so this whole thread get's a big, "Ohhhh snap"

:=: :r

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Sam who? :)

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wow, i didnt realize some many people disliked the guy. I am not trying to start anything cause i haven't been around like some of you guys. But i did go to a Cain event at the first of the year, and got a chance to meet Sam, all i know was that i was impressed and his attitude and the time he spent with each person, was he trying to sell cigars, well yes that his business. Was he a dick and i couldn't stand to be around him no, in fact my buddy that went with me, after we left said that dude was just a cool guy. He spent a good hour with us, gave me free cigars, and drinks and a few other things. Now like i said before some of you jump down my throat, because it has happened before where i have steped over the line.... Again i have been around when this other event has happend that some of you are talking about, but i do know from meeting him he was an out standing guy. Also i was a part of his nub forum and witnessed first hand that he gives away cigars to everyone, and he sends boxes to troops and military all the time, just because of what they do for us. This is just my 2 cents, and i will leave it at that. As far as nub cigars and cain, i love them both, i smoke them all the time and i just enjoy them. But that again is my opinion. I like some cigars that others don't and hate some that others love, that the great part about cigars... Sorry didn't mean to post an essay... Just wanted to voice my opinion.... Thanks guys -(P

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Interesting to read the various opinions. I met him once, at a Cain event at The Beer Sellar- he was very friendly, and even gave mama a cigar he had just rolled when I mentioned that she used to work in the tobacco fields in N.Ct. He talked to everybody, and spent time with those he talked to. So, in my brief encounter, I have nothing bad to say about the fellow.

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I think Sam seems like a great guy based upon the 3 or 4 times I've dealt with him both as a former retailer and onlooker at an event. He seemed very humble and was genuinely appreciative of the support from customers who attended.

I don't know the story's history between some of you on the forum and Sam apparently wanting immediate access, but I will say this about myself: I don't know about you guys, but if I were still being beaten up weeks, months, and years after the many times I've made an ass of myself, I'd have no friends and possibly disowned by my family. I'm glad I have friends that are willing and able to forgive and forget. That's just my :2 on the matter as I'm sure none of you have the problem Sam and I apparently do in showing our asses from time to time. :tu

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Nicely said, Jason- and a good thing to keep in mind.

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I'm pretty sure I signed up here after the "24 hour gate" happened, or might have been right before. No doubt Sam got off on the wrong foot here and was wrong. I'm not ragging on anybody here (haven't been around long enough for that) and hope not to offend anybody. But I have read the thread back when it hapened (might have been more then one, not sure) in which the topic was discussed and I don't think Sam was ever really given a chance to make up for his mistakes. Now of course its easy to say "hey this is a open forum" he had ever chance he wanted! But if it is clear that you are not welcomed by the core group of users then why keep coming back?

Let me say I can totally understand why this kind of thing can happen also, when you are a core member somewhere and pretty much consider a place a home away from home its easy to jump on somebody for trying to beat your front door in. So I'm not trying to blame anybody for what happened.

I will say that I have gotten to know Sam pretty good, including being around him away from a event or cigar related environment and he is a great guy!

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Dan, you are more than entitled to your opinion, no reason to apologize. Just because some people have had bad experiences doesn't mean everyone here has to agree with us. :tu :)

Now, if we were talking Gurkha cigars..... :r

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Various blends of lead piping can be tough to distinguish, don't be so hard on yourself Admiral!

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:D

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I've read about the incident that happened here with Sam so I can understand why some guys would have doubts about him. I also understand some peoples "BS Meter" going off the scale on the "sweet spot" issue. That's all cool. Everyone's entitled to their opinion about where marketing meets hype.

I've had the guy at my shop for two events, I've interviewed him for our blog, and we've chatted at length about **** that has nothing to do with cigars. He's a regular guy who loves what he does for a living and hates being away from his family so much. He may not be the smoothest guy in front of a keyboard, but he's a helluva nice guy in person.

So he made an ass of himself here. We all have at one time or another, just not on a cigar forum. Your crazy Uncle Earl does that every year at Thanksgiving and you still forgive him. And Sam has more in common with you than you do with your Uncle Earl. Why the continued grudge?

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I miss Uncle Earl.

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Not really a grudge...Sam showed that he had no use for our community after posting for a couple days, getting some honest answers, and never returning. He has no use for us, I don't see any reason I should have use for him. :2

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:tpd:
He didn't just screw up. He screwed up and then never bothered to try again.
"Uncle Earl" might make an ass out of himself on one day of the year, but not all the others as well.
My opinion of Sam won't change unless he gives me a reason for it to change...
:2