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massphatness 10-12-2010 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Volusianator (Post 1019502)
You obviously have no clue what you're talking about. Your statement is such an easy one to let ramble, but couldn't be further from the truth.

Trying to do this on my phone, so I apologize in advance for any sloppiness.*

First off, no offense taken. Not having a clue is often how Grace describes me. I didn't take it as a personal shot but rather thought I may have touched a nerve based on the response. If Volusianator and Favre are buds, I can understand his jumping to #4s defense. *I am just as prone to sometimes blindly defending my friends even when the situation may not be fully warranted.*

I do not know Brett Favre. I am not in a position to have first-hand knowledge of his motivations and interactions with any of his four NFL teams. *In that sense, I suppose I don't have a clue.*

I do know what my eyeballs tell me though. *And my eyeballs tell me Favre is a me-first player who's agenda begins and ends with Brett Favre. *Does he have a passion for the game? *Probably, but it's not mutually exclusive of his narcissitic personality. Favre's all about winning? *Maybe. *So long as he's the reason for the winning. My eyeballs tell me he wants to be throwing the football and scoring on spectular, improvised plays. *He does not, for example, want to hand the ball off to AP 25 times a game - even if that gives the TEAM the best shot at winning. *There are guys who crave the ball in their hand with the game on the line. I believe Favre is one of those guys. But I also believe he consistently puts his team in the position where he needs to "lead" them back because he doesn't play smart: *he plays for the greater glory of Brett Favre.

I used to respect the guy. I used to buy the whole aw-shucks, gunslinger personnae. But after riding a river of crocodile tears out of Green Bay followed by the pathetic is he or isn't he retirement charades the last few years, I've changed my opinion of the guy. I stand by my assertion that he is a dream killer, and any title chances the Vikes have rest more in the legs of AP than the arm of #4. *Were it not for a guy named Desmond Howard, we'd talk about Favre being the greatest QB never to have won anything.*
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massphatness 10-12-2010 12:26 PM

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I don't know what the hell caused all the asterisks in my post above. :(
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ChicagoWhiteSox 10-12-2010 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 14holestogie (Post 1019523)
Let me clarify.

Used to be a loveable hick.

Now he's just a self-absorbed d*ck.

Maybe he always was and my eyes were glossed over all his years in GB. :sh


:tpd:

http://pyleoflist.com/wp-content/upl..._letmeplay.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASBJJBIZVmk

Bad to the bone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2pIvg-2vEY

shilala 10-12-2010 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by massphatness (Post 1019878)
I don't know what the hell caused all the asterisks in my post above. :(
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I want to have Brett Farve's baby. Even if it's a little awkward.

kaisersozei 10-12-2010 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by massphatness (Post 1019878)
I don't know what the hell caused all the asterisks in my post above. :(
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I don't know either, but I was looking for the footnotes

Volusianator 10-12-2010 01:47 PM

Re: So what's the line on Farve retiring for good mid-season?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by massphatness (Post 1019875)
Trying to do this on my phone, so I apologize in advance for any sloppiness.*

First off, no offense taken. Not having a clue is often how Grace describes me. I didn't take it as a personal shot but rather thought I may have touched a nerve based on the response. If Volusianator and Favre are buds, I can understand his jumping to #4s defense. *I am just as prone to sometimes blindly defending my friends even when the situation may not be fully warranted.*

I do not know Brett Favre. I am not in a position to have first-hand knowledge of his motivations and interactions with any of his four NFL teams. *In that sense, I suppose I don't have a clue.*

I do know what my eyeballs tell me though. *And my eyeballs tell me Favre is a me-first player who's agenda begins and ends with Brett Favre. *Does he have a passion for the game? *Probably, but it's not mutually exclusive of his narcissitic personality. Favre's all about winning? *Maybe. *So long as he's the reason for the winning. My eyeballs tell me he wants to be throwing the football and scoring on spectular, improvised plays. *He does not, for example, want to hand the ball off to AP 25 times a game - even if that gives the TEAM the best shot at winning. *There are guys who crave the ball in their hand with the game on the line. I believe Favre is one of those guys. But I also believe he consistently puts his team in the position where he needs to "lead" them back because he doesn't play smart: *he plays for the greater glory of Brett Favre.

I used to respect the guy. I used to buy the whole aw-shucks, gunslinger personnae. But after riding a river of crocodile tears out of Green Bay followed by the pathetic is he or isn't he retirement charades the last few years, I've changed my opinion of the guy. I stand by my assertion that he is a dream killer, and any title chances the Vikes have rest more in the legs of AP than the arm of #4. *Were it not for a guy named Desmond Howard, we'd talk about Favre being the greatest QB never to have won anything.*
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I was looking for the footnotes as well! :r

We all have the right to our opinions, and at the end of the day, all that matters is that we enjoyed our cigars.

Zens7s 10-12-2010 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Volusianator (Post 1019630)
1) Packers

who's the second team? :r

Hey there Sugartits, last I checked we are 4-1 and the Pack is 3-2. :D

shilala 10-12-2010 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Zens7s (Post 1020056)
Hey there Sugartits, last I checked we are 4-1 and the Pack is 3-2. :D

Hehe. Sugartits. :r

Volusianator 10-12-2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zens7s (Post 1020056)
Hey there Sugartits, last I checked we are 4-1 and the Pack is 3-2. :D

If "we" is the Bears, then yeah, the statement I was quoting was that with the Vikings playing so poorly, there's only two teams in the division to offer competition to the Bears. I was saying the Packers and who else, God knows the Lions are no threat. Then again, with all the injuries to the Packers, we're probably not much either.

Zens7s 10-12-2010 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Volusianator (Post 1020073)
If "we" is the Bears, then yeah, the statement I was quoting was that with the Vikings playing so poorly, there's only two teams in the division to offer competition to the Bears. I was saying the Packers and who else, God knows the Lions are no threat. Then again, with all the injuries to the Packers, we're probably not much either.

Out of sheer pity I cheered when the Lions won this week. Of course I'd already smoked three cigars and had about four whiskeys by then so I may have actually been rooting for the drywall for all I know.

Volusianator 10-12-2010 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zens7s (Post 1020077)
Out of sheer pity I cheered when the Lions won this week. Of course I'd already smoked three cigars and had about four whiskeys by then so I may have actually been rooting for the drywall for all I know.

OK, that seriously made me laugh out loud.

poker 10-12-2010 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Volusianator (Post 1019650)
As I said...

Now just go back to your 13th banter. Sorry if that was offensive.

Whoa there. Now you have my attention as well.

massphatness 10-12-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zens7s (Post 1020056)
Hey there Sugartits

Helloooooooooooo, Susan :banger

Zens7s 10-25-2010 01:33 PM

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Well after last night and watching him hobble off the field I'd say we are a bit closer to the end-o-Favre Fest.

Did anybody catch the fake SNL commercial this weekend with Brett Favre for Wrangler No Fly Jeans? It was hilarious.

Bunker 10-25-2010 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Zens7s (Post 1036171)
Well after last night and watching him hobble off the field I'd say we are a bit closer to the end-o-Favre Fest.

Did anybody catch the fake SNL commercial this weekend with Brett Favre for Wrangler No Fly Jeans? It was hilarious.

OpenFlyJeans ;)

Resipsa 10-25-2010 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 14holestogie (Post 1019749)
...and I will post wherever you moderate and have a fit. ;)

and I will post and give Tom and the other Mods fits.

It's the Circle of LIfe, :noon

Resipsa 10-25-2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1019961)
I want to have Brett Farve's baby. Even if it's a little awkward.

Well, conveniently enough for you it seems he's sending pictures of his equipment to people, so now seems the time to apply for consideration.

Gophernut 10-25-2010 02:48 PM

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Vikings coach Brad Childress says that Favre has a fracture in his left ankle that may keep him out of next game. So who knows.

Zens7s 10-25-2010 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gophernut (Post 1036271)
Vikings coach Brad Childress says that Favre has a fracture in his left ankle that may keep him out of next game. So who knows.

Makes sense why he fell over in the pocket. Wonder if it went out then or when they sacked him in the previous play. All I know is that he went down faster than my libido when I think of a man wearing nothing but Crocs while sending dick pics.

Resipsa 10-25-2010 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zens7s (Post 1036417)
Makes sense why he fell over in the pocket. Wonder if it went out then or when they sacked him in the previous play. All I know is that he went down faster than my libido when I think of a man wearing nothing but Crocs while sending dick pics.

Just for my own information, what is the approriate attire when sending a woman pics of my junk? You know in case I ever do such a thing.

Volusianator 10-25-2010 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bunker (Post 1036178)

OK, that was freakin' hilarious!

Kreth 10-25-2010 06:10 PM

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I don't think it matters at this point. We're officially a long shot to even make the playoffs. Between Favre's flashback when he started throwing to green jerseys, Childress blowing the chance to challenge the Pack's first TD, and the BS call reversing Shiancoe's TD, last night pretty much killed us. :rolleyes:
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Wanger 10-25-2010 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Zens7s (Post 1036417)
Makes sense why he fell over in the pocket. Wonder if it went out then or when they sacked him in the previous play. All I know is that he went down faster than my libido when I think of a man wearing nothing but Crocs while sending dick pics.

I think the injury happened on the play he threw the pick to Hawk.

As for the season...it might be done, but after the game next weekend, the schedule gets much more favorable. I think they should have fired Chilly a couple years back. He's NOT a good head coach. Why the hell do you take a knee at the end of the first half with 2 timeouts left? Why don't you have someone in the booth watching the replays and tell you to throw the flag on Quarless "td".

I'm a terminal Vikings fan, and will continue to have my heart broken by them every year. I was disappointed by Chillys first season that we gave up our season tickets. The product he put on the field was not worth it. Fire him and bring in a PROVEN winner.

Kreth 10-25-2010 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanger (Post 1036536)
Fire him and bring in a PROVEN winner.

Except, along with needing a coach, we're right back where we were two years ago before this whole Favre mess. And now we also need an O-line, a couple of outside LBs and a few DBs while we're at it.
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ChicagoWhiteSox 10-25-2010 09:57 PM

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Real. Comfortable. Jeans.

Wanger 10-26-2010 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kreth (Post 1036562)
Except, along with needing a coach, we're right back where we were two years ago before this whole Favre mess. And now we also need an O-line, a couple of outside LBs and a few DBs while we're at it.
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O-line = yes

OLBs...Greenway is an OLB, and it seems like Lieber has disappeared the last couple games, but has been a SOLID player.

DBs = If they could keep them all healthy, they'd be fine, I think.

As I've said all along, the only way the Favavervarvearvervarevravervve experiment is worth it is if they bring the hardware home...doesn't look like it was worth it at all.

QUAZY50 10-26-2010 10:44 AM

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Favre was quoted to say he is commited to the team so I think theres that question.

As for if it was worth it? I think so, T-jack won't be any good (IMO) and at least it gave us some good entertainment..

Besides, they should have beat the packers, the refs blew that one.. The NFL has even appologized.

Gophernut 10-26-2010 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Wanger (Post 1037023)
O-line = yes

OLBs...Greenway is an OLB, and it seems like Lieber has disappeared the last couple games, but has been a SOLID player.

DBs = If they could keep them all healthy, they'd be fine, I think.

As I've said all along, the only way the Favavervarvearvervarevravervve experiment is worth it is if they bring the hardware home...doesn't look like it was worth it at all.

I really don't think our O-line is that far off. We need Loadholt to pick up his game. He's not bad, but needs to get better. Sullivan back at center will help, and the left side of the line is fine, I think.

OLB's I agree, they are not the problem.
DB's again I agree, health is the issue. Cook looked terrible against the packers. His replacement, Walker, looked serviceable.

Coaching= the problem with this team right now. Out coached terribly on Sunday night.

Refs? What are you going to do. They blew it on the Shiancoe td/incompletion.

Bottom line is we have been in every game, we haven't played our best, and with the division being like it is, we could still make a run. Losing Favre, could hurt, especially since we traded away our best backup QB.

Zens7s 10-26-2010 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 1036436)
Just for my own information, what is the approriate attire when sending a woman pics of my junk? You know in case I ever do such a thing.

A banana, a snorkel, and a baked potato.

Which, true and strange story, is also the same answer I once gave Jim McMahon when asked what I was wearing.:sh

Speaking of broken up QB's that Giants Defense has been eating em up lately like a Fat Kid at a pizza buffet. Tony Romo went down screaming for a new clavicle last night too. They took out my QB and my backup QB (Bears) a few weeks back too. GIANTS HUNGRRRRRYYYYYY.... :su

ChicagoWhiteSox 10-26-2010 02:02 PM

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Do they allow walkers in the NFL?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CPBXd6U4M8...-vick-espn.jpg

357 10-26-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Zens7s (Post 1037582)
A banana, a snorkel, and a baked potato.

Which, true and strange story, is also the same answer I once gave Jim McMahon when asked what I was wearing.:sh

You can't throw out a story teaser like that then go back to talking football.

Kreth 10-26-2010 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gophernut (Post 1037312)
I really don't think our O-line is that far off. We need Loadholt to pick up his game. He's not bad, but needs to get better. Sullivan back at center will help, and the left side of the line is fine, I think.

We can't stop a simple pass rush, let alone a blitz. Every time Favre drops back to pass he gets mugged. It's been that way since the end of last season.
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DB's again I agree, health is the issue. Cook looked terrible against the packers. His replacement, Walker, looked serviceable.
Admittedly, Walker looked better than he did against the Cowboys. But mainly it seems to be Winfield and Williams making plays. We never should have let Sharper go.
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Zens7s 10-26-2010 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1037671)
You can't throw out a story teaser like that then go back to talking football.

Lol. Jim McMahon and I have a close mutual friend that used to live here in Ft. Worth. Two years ago on Valentines Day he was in town for the Davey O'Brien awards and I was late getting to the restaurant to meet the group. They decided it would be fun, after many cocktails, to prank call me and have Jim ask me "So what ya wearing?" For some inexplicable reason my first answer was "a banana, a snorkel, and a baked potato." I managed to make him totally speechless for about five seconds, which for him may be a record. :)

357 10-27-2010 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Zens7s (Post 1037799)
Lol. Jim McMahon and I have a close mutual friend that used to live here in Ft. Worth. Two years ago on Valentines Day he was in town for the Davey O'Brien awards and I was late getting to the restaurant to meet the group. They decided it would be fun, after many cocktails, to prank call me and have Jim ask me "So what ya wearing?" For some inexplicable reason my first answer was "a banana, a snorkel, and a baked potato." I managed to make him totally speechless for about five seconds, which for him may be a record. :)

That IS a great story.

Resipsa 10-27-2010 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Zens7s (Post 1037582)
A banana, a snorkel, and a baked potato.

Which, true and strange story, is also the same answer I once gave Jim McMahon when asked what I was wearing.:sh

Speaking of broken up QB's that Giants Defense has been eating em up lately like a Fat Kid at a pizza buffet. Tony Romo went down screaming for a new clavicle last night too. They took out my QB and my backup QB (Bears) a few weeks back too. GIANTS HUNGRRRRRYYYYYY.... :su

I'm afraid to ask where I'm supposed to put the banana........:noon:noon:noon

Wanger 10-27-2010 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Zens7s (Post 1037799)
Lol. Jim McMahon and I have a close mutual friend that used to live here in Ft. Worth. Two years ago on Valentines Day he was in town for the Davey O'Brien awards and I was late getting to the restaurant to meet the group. They decided it would be fun, after many cocktails, to prank call me and have Jim ask me "So what ya wearing?" For some inexplicable reason my first answer was "a banana, a snorkel, and a baked potato." I managed to make him totally speechless for about five seconds, which for him may be a record. :)

LMAO! :r :r

Bunker 11-23-2010 07:29 AM

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Those odds have to be even money at best now.

I would think Frazier would ask him to go so he can a serious look at Jackson at QB.

With all the lockout talk with teams unlikely to drop big money on a new head coach, it seems likely that Frazier will have a good shot of getting the job for next year too as it just makes good business sense to cut ties with Farve now.

Wanger 11-23-2010 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bunker (Post 1071121)
Those odds have to be even money at best now.

I would think Frazier would ask him to go so he can a serious look at Jackson at QB.

With all the lockout talk with teams unlikely to drop big money on a new head coach, it seems likely that Frazier will have a good shot of getting the job for next year too as it just makes good business sense to cut ties with Farve now.

Frazier was going to be hired as a head coach next year, somewhere. I'm glad that we have a good chance at keeping him here. :)

As for Favrevarvervarevraveare...well, he'll keep starting, but I don't know that he'll play the entire game, every game. He may be given token starts with Jackson seeing significant time. Honestly, that depends on how they come out the next game or 2, and the results of those games.

mosesbotbol 11-23-2010 09:12 AM

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Farve will keep playing as long as teams will pay for him. Do you blame him? Heck, he could be a back up QB and play 5-7 more years no problem.

icehog3 11-23-2010 10:17 AM

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So what's the line on Farve retiring for good mid-season?
I will see your "who cares", and raise you an "I don't give a ****". ;) :r

MedicCook 11-23-2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1071276)
I will see your "who cares", and raise you an "I don't give a ****". ;) :r

:r

I think he should keep playing. The more he plays the more wins the other teams will get.

icehog3 11-23-2010 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 1071278)
:r

I think he should keep playing. The more he plays the more wins the other teams will get.

Wish he hadn't played against the Packers Sunday. :r

14holestogie 11-23-2010 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1071312)
Wish he hadn't played against the Packers Sunday. :r

Well, the Packers blew out the Cowboys. Bye bye Wade.

Then the Vikings. See you, Brad.

Next up, Lovie????

:)

ChicagoWhiteSox 11-23-2010 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 14holestogie (Post 1071317)
Well, the Packers blew out the Cowboys. Bye bye Wade.

Then the Vikings. See you, Brad.

Next up, Lovie????

:)

Nah, Lovie has won just enough games this year not to get the boot:r

icehog3 11-23-2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 14holestogie (Post 1071317)
Well, the Packers blew out the Cowboys. Bye bye Wade.

Then the Vikings. See you, Brad.

Next up, Lovie????

:)

We shall see...I don't have enough confidence in the Bears to trash talk, Tim...but I ain't counting them out, either. ;)

Bunker 11-23-2010 11:05 AM

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Marvin Lewis needs to go (but I have been saying that for at least 3 years now).


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