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Ewingrules 07-11-2010 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRonS (Post 912318)
Well thats just the thing.. He took less money to go to Miami.. So at least people cant say he did it for the money.. He lost about 15 million (110 totol) by going to Miami, rather then the 125 million he would have got by staying in cleveland

With that much money does it really matter? The state tax is alot better in Florida than it is in Ohio.

Ewingrules 07-11-2010 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 912391)
Heat ownership seems to have been involved through proxy (Wade) all along.

I agree but it is hard to prove. The point is players are allowed to get together and do these things and the owners can't. There will be a lockout and things are going to change big time in the NBA.

icehog3 07-11-2010 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ewingrules (Post 912882)
I agree but it is hard to prove. The point is players are allowed to get together and do these things and the owners can't. There will be a lockout and things are going to change big time in the NBA.

Looking forward to it, hope it lasts two seasons. ;) :r

TheRiddick 07-11-2010 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ewingrules (Post 912882)
I agree but it is hard to prove. The point is players are allowed to get together and do these things and the owners can't. There will be a lockout and things are going to change big time in the NBA.

Open admission now: http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index....iamis_cou.html

If NBA doesn't go after Miami with some seriously hefty fines, this league is done.

ChicagoWhiteSox 07-11-2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 912988)
Open admission now: http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index....iamis_cou.html

If NBA doesn't go after Miami with some seriously hefty fines, this league is done.


What can the NBA do besides fine Miami?

yachties23 07-11-2010 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 912994)
What can the NBA do besides fine Miami?

They have taken draft picks away in the past, They could theoretically take cap room away from them. Forcing them to only give minimum contracts to anybody besides the big 3.

David Stern usually is the man, but I can see him cowering here.

ChicagoWhiteSox 07-11-2010 12:39 PM

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They should take full action IMO.

yachties23 07-11-2010 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 913009)
They should take full action IMO.

It is terrible for the sport and the league. It would make me very happy to see the league step in, but it won't happen.

ChicagoWhiteSox 07-11-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by yachties23 (Post 913026)
It is terrible for the sport and the league. It would make me very happy to see the league step in, but it won't happen.


That's what I don't understand. They need to step in.

yachties23 07-11-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 913031)
That's what I don't understand. They need to step in.

They won't. I had been suggesting that the 3 players were in collusion together for some time, and a friend suggested that the League stands to make too much money off this one team.

I disagree. You put 2 of the 3 biggest draws on the same team, thus reducing road gates. Not to mention Miami is the 17th largest market in the NBA, if Lebron went to Chicago or the Knicks he would play in the 1st or 3rd largest market. More money is to be made elsewhere.

I'd love to see these three spend the next 5 years playing with jim the parking lot attendant, and max from accounting due to restrictions placed on the team.

TheRiddick 07-11-2010 01:11 PM

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I'd LOVE to see someone like Lee suing LeBron for chances missed. Lee wanted to stay in NY area and Nets were looking at him, but everything was predicated on LeBron's "decision", which we know now was decided LONG AGO.

The league can and should step in with no uncertainty, limited cap room and no first round picks for the duration of the contracts LeBron, Wade and Bosh signed. Six years. Telling others that in future if they want to play same game, they can expect to stagnate for the duration of their scheme. This is not just tampering, but with 2 different players at the same time with the GM coordinating for months.

ChicagoWhiteSox 07-11-2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 913040)
I'd LOVE to see someone like Lee suing LeBron for chances missed. Lee wanted to stay in NY area and Nets were looking at him, but everything was predicated on LeBron's "decision", which we know now was decided LONG AGO.

The league can and should step in with no uncertainty, limited cap room and no first round picks for the duration of the contracts LeBron, Wade and Bosh signed. Six years. Telling others that in future if they want to play same game, they can expect to stagnate for the duration of their scheme. This is not just tampering, but with 2 different players at the same time with the GM coordinating for months.


What's the media saying about this? I haven't really heard a whole lot about this.

I'm going to assume that the media, i.e. espn, hasn't said anything about this:rolleyes:

itzfrank 07-11-2010 01:37 PM

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This must be what it feels like to be the Yankees. lol.

floydpink 07-12-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRonS (Post 912318)
Well thats just the thing.. He took less money to go to Miami.. So at least people cant say he did it for the money.. He lost about 15 million (110 totol) by going to Miami, rather then the 125 million he would have got by staying in cleveland

Considering Florida has no state income tax, the loss is probably minimal.

I'll be interested to see how this works out as well as who will come off the bench as I don't know who's left.

Although I see Miami probably being top in the East, they still won't beat the Lakers for a while in a best of 7 series.

icehog3 07-12-2010 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 913916)
I'll be interested to see how this works out as well as who will come off the bench as I don't know who's left.

The Heat have agreed to play other teams 5 on 3. :)

Made in Dade 07-12-2010 09:32 AM

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Go Heat!!!

icehog3 07-12-2010 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Made in Dade (Post 913979)
Go Heat!!!

And take the Dolphins with you. ;)

ChicagoWhiteSox 07-12-2010 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Made in Dade (Post 913979)
Go Heat!!!


:pu

The Poet 07-12-2010 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by itzfrank (Post 913057)
This must be what it feels like to be the Yankees. lol.

Not really, brother . . . the Yankees have tradition, and Miami has mosquitoes. :r

floydpink 07-12-2010 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 914319)
Not really, brother . . . the Yankees have tradition, and Miami has mosquitoes. :r

And the Yankees have bought a whole lot more than 3 great players and conspired to win a whole lot more than 1 title.

floydpink 07-12-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 914319)
Not really, brother . . . the Yankees have tradition, and Miami has mosquitoes. :r

I was going to go on about all New Jersey has but it's the summer and you should really enjoy yourself.

(I grew up in NJ and haven't managed to do a u-turn on I-95 in 20 years)

ChicagoWhiteSox 07-12-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 914360)
And the Yankees have bought a whole lot more than 3 great players and conspired to win a whole lot more than 1 title.

:r

Neuromancer 07-13-2010 07:02 AM

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Go Heat!!!

icehog3 07-13-2010 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Neuromancer (Post 914847)
Go Heat!!!

And take the Dolphins with you!

Neuromancer 07-13-2010 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 914866)
And take the Dolphins with you!

You can have the Dolphins and while you're at it take the Marlins with you too...we'll keep the Heat, at least for the next NBA season...

NeuRon 07-13-2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ewingrules (Post 912880)
With that much money does it really matter?

umm, lets see... 15 More Million dollars when your 25 years old? hmm.. yea thats a big deal... lol

MiamiE 07-13-2010 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 914319)
Not really, brother . . . the Yankees have tradition, and Miami has mosquitoes. :r

Uhhh did I miss something. Looks like the Heat are doing what the Yankees have done for 15+ years! Some tradition! :r

Niterider56 07-16-2010 08:27 AM

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The heat are picking us some players to go with the 3 huckstateers but I don't see them winning more than maybe 1 title in 5 years.

Ewingrules 07-16-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRonS (Post 915442)
umm, lets see... 15 More Million dollars when your 25 years old? hmm.. yea thats a big deal... lol

With the state tax difference and the fact that he makes more in endorsements than playing ball in the big picture it is not much at all.

Ewingrules 07-16-2010 11:40 AM

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The signed Mike Miller and the Big Z to unite with Lebron. They must be printing money in Miami.:D


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