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newcigarz 06-07-2010 03:10 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880090)
Interesting how you know it's going to be a success before it comes out.. :rolleyes:

See the pic above. I'll hang on to my judgement until proven wrong.
is that a pic of your phone? or did you google cracked iphone pic?

My pic is of my phone, a phone that people at a herf on Saturday saw me drop and it is still fine.

JE3146 06-07-2010 03:12 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
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Originally Posted by mithrilG60 (Post 880063)
Those are from dropping it on the edges, it applies much more force to a smaller area. I've had friends that were unlucky enough to drop theirs right on the corner and completely spiderweb the screen and it's still been completely usable. I've also seen Blackberry's, including most of the work units at my office, that have stood up far worst to much less abuse and look like total ass within 6 months of being issued.

It's all in how well you take care of your stuff. If you were one of the kids on teh playground that was always abusing their toys and breaking them then any smartphone is probably not the best purchase decision. If you're careful with it, especially if you buy a case, your iPhone will look exactly the same in a couple years as it does the day it comes out of the box.
Obviously it's about how you take care of your stuff, but accidents do happen. My phone has survived 2 drops. With the new no cell phone laws forcing me to use hands free speaker phone while driving, when the law first came out, I forgot a couple times I had the phone on my lap when I hopped out of my car.

You just hope that when you go to pick up your phone after feeling like the dumbest person on Earth that it's still in one piece. :D

JE3146 06-07-2010 03:12 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 880097)
It will be, Apple is going to sell a ton of them.
I don't count that as a success in my eyes. But then again I'm not a marketing major.

I look at things differently. One of which being design choices.

If they're good choices and the product is well received with nearly no complaints. That's a success.

JE3146 06-07-2010 03:15 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 880100)
is that a pic of your phone? or did you google cracked iphone pic?

My pic is of my phone, a phone that people at a herf on Saturday saw me drop and it is still fine.
Merely highlighting a picture representing that which I have seen on more than one occasion, albeit not as extreme. But then again your antagonism towards my comments called for something a bit extreme.

mithrilG60 06-07-2010 03:16 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880090)
Interesting how you know it's going to be a success before it comes out.. :rolleyes:
Whether or not it's going to be a success is not really a debateable issue, it's going to sell like hotcakes..... we all know that. Whether it deserves that success is what only time will tell.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880090)
See the pic above. I'll hang on to my judgement until proven wrong.
I've seen Zune's, iPhone's, iPod's, Blackberry's, Droid's, Creative River's, etc. that look exactly like the picture you posted. All that pic proves is that if you give people stuff, especially portable electronics, and they'll find a way to break it.

How many tens of millions of iPhone's and iTouch's have been sold in the last 3 years? What percentage of those sold have broken their screens? I'm guessing the failure rate is pretty damn small given that if it wasn't the media and anti-fanboi's would have jumped all over it. Considering the fact that the glass screens have already proven themselves to be far far tougher than you'd ever think possible I think you're making rather a large mountain out of a very small molehill.

NO device manufacturer warranty's their screens simply because, as a result of the amount of abuse the device receives from most users, that is going to be the biggest single point of failure in the device. If that's a issue for you don't buy a smartphone. Condemning a new device that isn't even on the market yet simply because you feel the decision to use dual-glass is stupid is ludicrous. It's doubly so considering the fact that Apple's handheld glass screen's have been some of the toughest on the market for years.

newcigarz 06-07-2010 03:18 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880105)
I don't count that as a success in my eyes. But then again I'm not a marketing major.

I look at things differently. One of which being design choices.

If they're good choices and the product is well received with nearly no complaints. That's a success.
Again with my clouded judgement, I see one of the most technologically advance pieces of mobile communication ever to come to market. I will gladly punk down my money and drink the kool-aid.

JE3146 06-07-2010 03:21 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mithrilG60 (Post 880109)
Whether or not it's going to be a success is not really a debateable issue, it's going to sell like hotcakes..... we all know that. Whether it deserves that success is what only time will tell.



I've seen Zune's, iPhone's, iPod's, Blackberry's, Droid's, Creative River's, etc. that look exactly like the picture you posted. All that pic proves is that if you give people stuff, especially portable electronics, and they'll find a way to break it.

How many tens of millions of iPhone's and iTouch's have been sold in the last 3 years? What percentage of those sold have broken their screens? I'm guessing the failure rate is pretty damn small given that if it wasn't the media and anti-fanboi's would have jumped all over it. Considering the fact that the glass screens have already proven themselves to be far far tougher than you'd ever think possible I think you're making rather a large mountain out of a very small molehill.

NO device manufacturer warranty's their screens simply because, as a result of the amount of abuse the device receives from most users, that is going to be the biggest single point of failure in the device. If that's a issue for you don't buy a smartphone. Condemning a new device that isn't even on the market yet simply because you feel the decision to use dual-glass is stupid is ludicrous. It's doubly so considering the fact that Apple's handheld glass screen's have been some of the toughest on the market for years.

When you drop a device there typically always exists a proportion of surface area that withstands impact better than others. The ratio of those proportions typically determines (amongst other factors like height, angle, etc) whether or not the device will survive cosmetically.

When you increase the surface area of a compound that (could) break more easily. It makes me question it.

That's all I'm getting at.

Read above to the accidents do happen post. I fully understand what you're getting at.

You know damn well there will be people who question it's durability and will perform drop tests.

I'll just simply wait for those tests. (which won't matter really until Apple goes Verizon, which see my LTE post a page or so ago. I assume they'll make the transition then.)

As you've put, apple does make great products. Which is why I own them. I do not rush out, stand in line, and purchase day 1, a product which has no prior review or testimonies to backup the quality that they (the maker) claims it has. I don't see why that's such an issue?

newcigarz 06-07-2010 03:22 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880108)
But then again your antagonism towards my comments called for something a bit extreme.
Yep, all my fault. You are right. Steve jobs is the devil. the Apple iphone will crack if you look at it wrong. And you couldn't make a call on AT& T's network if your life depended on it.

Congrats you have changed all our minds.

Please move on nothing to see here. :tu

Blueface 06-07-2010 03:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 880043)
Yes, it happens.

This is the iphone that the new iphone 4 will be replacing. It is an original Edge iphone purchased the 2nd day they were available. never had a single day of trouble and never broke the glass.

http://www.fototime.com/D6B3FFDB12D855D/standard.jpg
Tony,
You are in fact a testament to the durability of this phone.
You have used it for quite some time and it shows its wear on the cover but the glass is intact indeed.

I have dropped mine many, many times now. Furthermore, my grandson has dropped it twice as much as I have. My floor in my home where it has usually landed is tiles. When it has landed on tiles, it has landed on a driveway or patio. Granted, no damage in terms of scratches on case due to the Incipio cover but the exposed glass has never chipped or cracked to date.

I can only imagine the abuse it took with folks that have cracked them or the oddity of a complete freak chance as mine has been tough for two years now. I think the Incipio type case is well worth it also and doesn't add bulk at all that is noticeable.

JE3146 06-07-2010 03:24 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 880111)
Again with my clouded judgement, I see one of the most technologically advance pieces of mobile communication ever to come to market. I will gladly punk down my money and drink the kool-aid.
The irony... ;)

T.G 06-07-2010 03:25 PM
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http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=4250

newcigarz 06-07-2010 03:26 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880121)
The irony... ;)
What is ironic? I have said from the beginning. If Apple makes it I will buy it.
I don't care if it sucks.
Haters hate.

Blueface 06-07-2010 03:27 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 879960)
So you really think Steve Jobs is the 'genius' that invented this special glass?

Is that the way I'm reading this?
Of course not but he is the man behind producing it for his product.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880066)
Oh jee, I donno :rolleyes:

http://googleg.info/Image/broken-iphone.jpg

I'd say my original concern was pretty darn valid. And then later in the presentation they clarified. Glad you all can feel high and mighty over it at my expense.
Is that your phone?
Anything is possible but that phone looks like it got impacted quite unusually hard with a direct blow to it, almost as if with a hammer.

I can't speak for the one you chose to post.
I can only speak for mine dropped over and over again, tested repeatedly by a 3 year old and not a scratch.

Kreth 06-07-2010 03:30 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Burn him! Burn the heretic!



:r
Posted via Mobile Device

JE3146 06-07-2010 03:30 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 880130)
Of course not but he is the man behind producing it for his product.



Is that your phone?
Anything is possible but that phone looks like it got impacted quite unusually hard with a direct blow to it, almost as if with a hammer.

I can't speak for the one you chose to post.
I can only speak for mine dropped over and over again, tested repeatedly by a 3 year old and not a scratch.
Read above, I explained it there :)


I was merely highlighting your post because it in a way dismissed the achievements of those who actually designed the features for this phone (which I will admit is impressive).

So often people think Steve Jobs is the gift from God, when he merely signs the paychecks for those that put him in his spotlight.

Blueface 06-07-2010 03:31 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 880125)
What is ironic? I have said from the beginning. If Apple makes it I will buy it.
I don't care if it sucks.
Haters hate.
Tony,
All I can assume is I hang out with the wrong crowd.
No matter where I travel to in this country, whenever I get together in a crowd of folks, 9 out of 10 have an iPhone.
That was the case the other day at Doug's. That was the case yesterday in Miami at a very large party at my wife's cousin's place. That was the case at James (Croatan's) place not too long ago in Ft. Worth and on and on.

There are a bunch of us Steve Jobs followers. Man I love that flute he plays.:r

Blueface 06-07-2010 03:34 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880132)
So often people think Steve Jobs is the gift from God, when he merely signs the paychecks for those that put him in his spotlight.
:r

I would hope none of the folks I know think that.
I personally do think he is quite a smart innovator and marketer.
That has been proven by his success where so many have failed.
Think about all the computer giants gone under that could not compete against Microsoft for software and IBM for hardware. He is still there and doing awfully well and no doubt his products are unique, regardless of who makes them for him in actuality.

Smokin Gator 06-07-2010 03:34 PM
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All I can say is on June 15 I order my first iPhone and I couldn't be more excited about a phone.

Blueface 06-07-2010 03:36 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokin Gator (Post 880141)
All I can say is on June 15 I order my first iPhone and I couldn't be more excited about a phone.
:tpd:

I called the wife and broke the news to her.
Told her no nails and hair that week as I need the cash instead.:r

newcigarz 06-07-2010 03:38 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokin Gator (Post 880141)
All I can say is on June 15 I order my first iPhone and I couldn't be more excited about a phone.
What! Don't you want years of real world experience and testing before you so blindly hand your money over to Steve Jobs! :r

JE3146 06-07-2010 03:39 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 880144)
What! Don't you want years of real world experience and testing before you so blindly hand your money over to Steve Jobs! :r
Really...? :rolleyes:

Glad you can keep things civil.

sikk50 06-07-2010 03:41 PM
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http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...0/3f06a7ff.jpg

newcigarz 06-07-2010 03:44 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880148)
Really...? :rolleyes:

Glad you can keep things civil.
I'm not the one who came into your thread and peed on your parade. :2

newcigarz 06-07-2010 03:48 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Engadget's first look

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/i...irst-hands-on/

s0leful0ne 06-07-2010 03:48 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
its hot in here...

long read but insightful : http://gizmodo.com/5555953/fanboyism-and-brand-loyalty

Also, I'm fairly certain theres a threshold to a degree of durability to a product. Every company (not just Apple) does the best it can to spend the least amount of money on a product while selling it for the most profit.

mithrilG60 06-07-2010 03:50 PM
Re: iphone 4 just announced.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokin Gator (Post 880141)
All I can say is on June 15 I order my first iPhone and I couldn't be more excited about a phone.
I'm looking forward to June 21st myself. Having just gotten my 3Gs a couple months back I find the upgrade to an iPhone 4 will be pretty unlikely…… but I'm really looking forward to some of the features in OS 4 ;)

poker 06-07-2010 03:51 PM
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As far as durability, I admit the iPhone is pretty good. I have had the original, and the 3G.

Dont get me wrong, the glass can break, and it does not require a bad impact either. I had mine in my back pocket one day and sat on a bench on my back patio. Caught the edge of the face of the phone and thats all she wrote. The picture of the shattered glass in the pic above looks mild compared to mine.

The good news is that shattered LCD's and digitizer glass on most all iPhones can all be replaced/repaired.


With that said, I'll be getting the 4 when its released.

JE3146 06-07-2010 03:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 880158)
I'm not the one who came into your thread and peed on your parade. :2
PM sent.

Blueface 06-07-2010 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by poker (Post 880169)
As far as durability, I admit the iPhone is pretty good. I have had the original, and the 3G.

Dont get me wrong, the glass can break, and it does not require a bad impact either. I had mine in my back pocket one day and sat on a bench on my back patio. Caught the edge of the face of the phone and thats all she wrote. The picture of the shattered glass in the pic above looks mild compared to mine.

The good news is that shattered LCD's and digitizer glass on most all iPhones can all be replaced/repaired.


With that said, I'll be getting the 4 when its released.
Kelly,
You just reminded me of a funny story in my life.
I am a gadget freak and when cell phones came out, I had one of the first ones in the car, then the portable briefcase, then that Motorola brick and then things got sweet as technology went, we got the Motorola Flip Phone in our lives.

I had every generation of the Flip Phone but the first one is the one you reminded me of. I walked into the AT&T store with the phone in about 25 pieces and dropped it on the counter and told them the phone stunk. It just fell apart from normal use. The jerk that was with me then started laughing and then the employee realized I was just kidding. I actually dropped the phone on the ground, it survived that impact but apparently it was poorly made as it didn't tolerate the tires going over it as I backed up my car.:r:r:r

newcigarz 06-07-2010 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880171)
PM sent.
PM returned.

Now back to the iphone.

I know Carlos said 16G for him. I never thought I would need more, but I am seriously considering the 32G.

JE3146 06-07-2010 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 880180)
PM returned.
Glad to see a person can be judged by their opinion of Apple.

Shows a lot about a person.

newcigarz 06-07-2010 04:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880181)
Glad to see a person can be judged by their opinion of Apple.

Shows a lot about a person.

Couldn't keep it to PM huh, shows alot about a hater. :td

JE3146 06-07-2010 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 880182)
Couldn't keep it to PM huh, shows alot about a hater. :td
Hey just doing what you told me to do ;)

Wherever, whenever, whatever.

Enjoy.

newcigarz 06-07-2010 04:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880183)
Hey just doing what you told me to do ;)

Wherever, whenever, whatever.

Enjoy.

funny I can get you to do what I told you to do. :r

I must be channeling Steve Jobs now.

JE3146 06-07-2010 04:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 880185)
funny I can get you to do what I told you to do. :r
I'm a brainwashed engineer. I'm good at being told what to do. It's what I do :r

And that power is given to the highest bidder. ;)

newcigarz 06-07-2010 04:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880186)
I'm a brainwashed engineer. I'm good at being told what to do. It's what I do :r

And that power is given to the highest bidder. ;)
Everyone has to be good as something. :tu

Blueface 06-07-2010 04:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 880180)
PM returned.

Now back to the iphone.

I know Carlos said 16G for him. I never thought I would need more, but I am seriously considering the 32G.
I barely need 8 GB after two years.

newcigarz 06-07-2010 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 880188)
I barely need 8 GB after two years.
I think that I would really utilize the HD video feature. I think that will chew up the memory.

Blueface 06-07-2010 04:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 880189)
I think that I would really utilize the HD video feature. I think that will chew up the memory.
Tony,
Just think about how many GB most HD camcorders come with today.
Many of them are under 8 GB.
Take some videos, edit them, uploading them, erase them, you are then ready for more. Why pay $100 extra? Not like you have a newborn you will be shooting every minute. Do you and we don't know?:r

newcigarz 06-07-2010 04:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 880192)
Not like you have a newborn you will be shooting every minute. Do you and we don't know?:r
Free Willy! :r


I guess you're right. MY thought is I probably won't upgrade for another 5 years or until Steve sells me something else. Whichever comes first.

The Professor 06-07-2010 04:26 PM
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I'm starting to regret responding to this thread and having these updates appear in "My Replies." :rolleyes: Seriously ... can y'all just be done? Please?

The Apple page is quite interesting in terms of all the details of the technology. On the glass, their claim is that it's the "same kind of glass that's used on helicopters and high-speed trains." Sweet.

The Engadget initial impressions report is interesting ... and there's a collection of more reports up on the Macrumors.com page. Sounds like everyone is really blown away by the screen.

T.G 06-07-2010 04:26 PM
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No SD or Micro-SD slot on the 4G either?

JE3146 06-07-2010 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 880195)
No SD or Micro-SD slot on the 4G either?
Doubtful, would eliminate the need to spend more money (lots) on a device with a few bucks worth of added memory ;)

newcigarz 06-07-2010 04:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 880194)
I'm starting to regret responding to this thread and having these updates appear in "My Replies." :rolleyes: Seriously ... can y'all just be done? Please?

Just for you Dokk. :rolleyes:

Blueface 06-07-2010 04:34 PM
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Check this video out.
Supposedly the best display ever.Clicky

The Professor 06-07-2010 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 880200)
Just for you Dokk. :rolleyes:
Yay. :) Now if we could just get Jordan to STFU about everything he hates about the iPhone. ;)

JE3146 06-07-2010 04:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 880206)
Yay. :) Now if we could just get Jordan to STFU about everything he hates about the iPhone. ;)
Now why would I do that?

:D

The real question is which iPhone is less evil... The white one or the black one.

The answer is FALSE :D

Blueface 06-07-2010 04:39 PM
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I wonder if the pre-order on 6/15 be available online also or just in the store?

The Professor 06-07-2010 04:39 PM
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I think it's online, too, Carlos.

The Professor 06-07-2010 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 880209)
Now why would I do that?

:D

The real question is which iPhone is less evil... The white one or the black one.

The answer is FALSE :D
http://scienceblogs.com/sunclipse/siwoti-cat.png


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