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:xxx

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90% of the cigars I smoke are Cuban, and the other 10% are DPG. Once my existing stock is gone, I don't intend to replace it except to support my B&M's on occasion.

DPG Blends for Tatuaje, and I like the majority of the line, sans Ambos Mundos.

Marketing 101 says that hype is key to developing interest in a brand.

Ladies and Germs, smoke what you like and like what you smoke. Whether you like Pete, Rocky, Jose/Jorge, Don Pepin, Kaizad, Dion, etc., doesn't really matter.

One could argue that REs and ELs are just hype, too... Don't lose sight of the forest from the trees...

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You wake up every day and decide what kind of person you are going to be and what kind of day you are going to have. You can look at all the hype around Tatuaje's products and decide that you are going to have fun with it and see if you can get a hold of some, speculate about what he is going to do next, or you can throw hate and ***** about this or that or how you can't get them, or how its a gimmick...

If you don't think you should have to pay over MSRP for a cigar just because it is limited, don't. I agree that people buying boxes and trying to flip them for twice what they payed is messed up, so I don't buy from them. I know I haven't paid any extra much extra for any of the LE cigars I have bought.

Its not like the type of advertising a certain brand uses affects you in the least and its not like you will die if you don't get to taste any particular cigar.

You are free to express your opinions, but realize that the opinions you choose to express affect people's perception of the community. There seem to be cigar communities that love Tatuaje, some that hate it and some that treat it like any other brand. I'd rather be a part of the latter.

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Word.
I think there is a serious need for butt cream on this issue, with the amount of people that are butt-sore over Tatuaje. While we respect varying opinions on this forum and coming out in a review that a cigar doesn't do it for you is a worthwhile contribution to the forum assuming you've tried it, it seems like the opinions expressed on the issue are bordering on needless flaming. Almost every new thread on Tatuaje lately gets thread-jacked by people with an agenda against Pete Johnson. I don't think they realize that when it's consistent enough, and when the same people are saying the same thing on thread after thread, it creates a hostile, divisive envrionment when you can't discuss a new release or review a stick without the thread turning into an "I hate Pete Johnson" fest. That's what people are saying might turn new members away from the forum. I would hate to lose membership just because a few people can't stop themselves from sh*tting on every thread that mentions Tatuaje. Especially when it's respectable, long time BOTLs that should be the bedrock of our community.

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I would argue that REs and ELs are just hype, too. :D

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I like Pete Johnson's cigars as long as I get the ones I want.

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This is an entertaining thread. I thought most peeps here loved Tats. I've never had one or care to pay alot for them, but thats just me. I got plenty other smokes that make me happy. Like the rev says, like what you smoke, smoke what you like. Words to live by.

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back to the original topic of tatuaje anarchy....

From another board:

"It's a limited run cigar for a retailer's anniversary. The retailer needs to remain a secret."

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There is a big difference, if you polled the majority of smokers, they would say that Ghurka never ever lives up to any hype. I would wager most would say that Tats, while maybe hyped up, typically are in the ballpark of the best NC cigars out there. I really can't think of a line of cigars OTHER THAN PADRON and OPUS/ANEJO that consistently makes a really great cigar. Ghurkas are dog turds, you wont ever hear anyone say that about Tats.

I consider myself a VERY well educated smoker, and know a lot about cigars, and 7+ times out of 10 if I go into a random B&M and buy to support, its gonna be a Tat (J21 if they have it, Especiales if they don't).

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For NHC I believe......

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That'd be my first guess as well.

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So... who's offering to secure a box for me? :dr:D:tu

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Tats are dog turds. :D

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I saw that one coming. :r

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I have yet to smoke a Tat I would pay for. Not bad but not that good either. I have smoked some Gurkha dog rockets but G3s are one of my favorite smokes. Maybe Tat has something I would add to my list but I haven't smoked it yet. I am not going out of my way for the new release but might try it if I get the chance. I would rather find a reliable regular production cigar I like.

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Despite all the trash talking here, there are MANY great tat regular production cigars, not everything they make is limited run.

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"Great" is subjective enough. I have only tried four different Tats and I will try others but "great" hasn't happened to me yet.
I am not trashing PJ or his cigars. I find the ones I like from many companies, even Gurkha or Altadis or some of the others that people like to trash. These new "Face" cigars look interesting but as they are not something you will be able to get anytime you want I will let them pass.
Smoke what you like...:ss

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I've tried a heck of a lot more than four Tat products and haven't found one fit to smoke, as of yet. I have a few cigars and you won't find a Tat anywhere (I don't think.)
I just don't like them. It's that black peppery pine tree flavor in the back of my mouth. It just puts me off, bad. I can't stand it.
That said, I keep trying them. Unless it's a Noella Especial or El Triunfador. I've never even experienced a Gurkha that was remotely as vile. How anyone can smoke either and not chunk is a mystery to me.
That's where subjective comes in. I don't think there's anything great about Tats. Not even remotely. But, I have to take into mind that tons of people love them. And from my experience, their construction is beyond reproach.
I've seen lots of his interviews and read a lot of stuff Pete has written. I'm glad Pete does what he does. He enjoys it, and he makes lots of people very happy.There can't be anything bad about that.
Except maybe his cigars. :r
:=:

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From a business stand point Pete has great marketing appeal... Those that want to chase them down will, I agree retailers should have no part in his contests... Did any one win the Ducati ? I like most of his products... In fact I just got my hands on a 5er of Dracs thanks to one of our very own her... I won't participate in his antics.... My local B&M got a Golden ticket....Haven't been there since.... I am still looking out for a Boris or 5er, some day I will get the pleasure to enjoy one just not meant to be yet...

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NHC cigar:http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...&id=1572979468 seems to be same as sw and sw maduro....hopet hey come out with somethin g smaller than 40 ct boxes, thats a big commitment....maybe a box plit will be in order when they come out, the sw is one of his cgars i enjoyed, i actually liked the nat better over the 1 maddie i had....i actuallly traded my 2nd maddie for a natural, i have been called crazy for this

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That link didn't work, Tom. It gets automatically shortened.
Use the little "insert link" trick. Highlight the text, click the little earth/chain icon, and drop the url in there.
Don't know why links get chopped by the software here, but it happens.
I wanna see those smokes. :)

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http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5714847_n.jpg

There ya go, Scott. Doesn't look like an SW to me, as they're 6 3/4 x 42, same size as cazadores iirc.

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No

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Then for whom?

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By now all should know I do the Halloween cigar every year. I do this to have fun with the brand and at the same time create buzz. This is something I will continue to do. Last year many things caused problems this is why I am changing to something simple. For all the collectors, I am still making the funky gimmicky box and releasing it first. Then I am also releasing the same cigar two weeks later in plain boxes for people that only care about the smokes. Just under 22,000 cigars which happens to be a lot for a company my size and should be enough to make it easy to find. No spooky ticket and no giveaway. Just cigars for the holiday.

The Tatuaje Anarchy thing, I can't take credit for. I do know it will be easy to find. That's all I can say as I've been asked to keep quiet.

The NHC cigar will be easy to find as it's made for NHC only. They come in boxes of 40 but I am sure that Dan will be making samplers in different formats and the price is right.

I respect the opinions but the name calling is stupid. Don't like the product don't buy it. Don't like my marketing (which by the way , I don't know marketing) Don't buy the product. I make tons of regular production product that people can buy at a good price point that has no gimmicks tied to it.

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First of all good to see you posting on here, Pete.

Your brand is one of the few NC brands that I still enjoy. I like the Halloween series and all the unique stuff you do with your brand. Ulike other brands, you back your great branding with a quality cigar. I'm definitely looking forward to your future cigars :tu

I wouldn't take some of the comments seriously on here. Keep doing what you're doing. Hope to see you in Michigan soon.

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Ditto on the above. I once had dinner and smokes with Pete and talked cigars for hours. I TRULY think he does the special stuff b/c he wants to make cool and fun stuff that people will enjoy, not purely as a cash-grab or for the marketing boost. Some people should be embarrassed by their comments in this thread.

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Thanks for checking in on this thread, there are still lots of fans of your products here don't let this thread make you think this whole board is drinking that tatuaje haterade

:tu

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:tpd:True.
Personally I think PJ's gimmicks are fun to see in this type of hobby. I'm pretty stoked to see Pete posting in here. Thanks Pete!

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Thanks for chiming in here Pete. Love your cigars!

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Thanks for the info Pete! :tu

On a side note those NHCs look tasty! :dr

If they're the SW blend in a Lonsdale vitola I will be ecstatic! No question I will be picking up a box of these on release.

I enjoy the chase and I enjoy HTFs. Sure it sucks when you smoke them up and you know you can never get anymore or you miss the boat and never get your hands on them (like me with the monster series to date :bh) but something else will come along and the chase begins again. Many of us enjoy it whether it be EL, LE, Regionals, NCs or CCs. I find nothing wrong with it.

That also may be because I have yet to get burned too many times since almost every HTF I have come across has been quite good.

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Thank you for chiming in Pete, good to have you here. :)

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If it's Anarchy, what's with the secrets and rule following? Did someone drop the dictionary on this one? ;)

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:r

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Thanks, Jordan. I thought that was wasted. :D

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LOL,,,Yeah I know

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New marketing slogan:

Tatuaje! The Apple of the cigar world

What can I say. I have bought Tatuaje's and liked the ones I have bought.

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So since I get sick of your "i'm so great" attitude I can go on here and say you are a tool?

I think that the mod's would put an end to it if I was personally attacking you all the time.

Show the same respect and be a decent human being.

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Woah, wait, what?

Darrell is human?

You sure about that?

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Sure, call me whatever you want.

Who knows, give it a try. Take a risk! :D

OK!

I apologize for calling you a tool, Pete. What I really meant is that I don't care for your strategy for building hype on your cigars. I know that is the core of marketing, building anticipation for something. However I don't like how upset it makes people when they search, search, search and are sad when they cannot find them.

:)

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Pete,

I personally love your blends and they are one of the few NC's I buy on a regular basis.

While I don't go too crazy looking for the hard to finds, I am a huge fan of the brown label regios.

I did stumble upon some Blacks in the tube at Corona in Orlando recently and enjoyed them a bunch.

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I watched the video and wondering if Anarchy is an acronym.

On the website it's a.n.a.r.c.h.y. :r

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These threads always go off on the most irrelevant tangents. Who cares if someone does or does not like Pete Johnson. I would go so far as to say that the very large majority of people saying they don't like him have never seen the guy outside of a google photo. This thread is about an upcoming product (I'll assume it's a cigar since the one guy said it's not clothing).

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Wow, this was an interesting thread! I don't really have a super emotional opinion on Pete Johnson or his cigars. The tatuajes that I've had have all been decent cigars, and they seem to be priced about right (I haven't chased any of the limited runs). For what it's worth, I'm all for his marketing campaign. What could be more American? It makes good business sense to me; he's creating hype and demand for his cigars, what's wrong with that? Any good business person trying to make their way in the world would do the same damned thing. If you want one of his cigars and can't get one, too bad! Either try harder next time, be willing to cough up more money, or be left out - it's that simple! Just because you enjoy Tatuaje cigars doesn't mean you are entitled to one of their limited/exclusive lines! Do people bash Corvette when they release limited run cars? Are all Corvette fans that have a standard built car entitled to a limited run car? Of course not! That's why they are LIMITED RELEASES!! There is a limit to how many are made, and therefore they command a higher price than REGULAR releases! It seems to me that Pete Johnson puts out a quality cigar (for the most part, I haven't tried them all), and he markets them aggressively. What the hell is wrong with that?

Maybe I'm missing something here, but just because I enjoy Cohibas doesn't mean I'm entitled to a Behike. If I want one that badly, I should be willing shell out some dough, but I'm not willing to, and that doesn't hurt my feelings or change my opinions on Cohiba/Habanos SA one bit.

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...and is this different from finding many other sticks how? Fuentes, Padrons, and many others not to mention certain Cuban marcas were, or still are just as hard to find if not harder.




The way I look at it, if a person dosent like a brand for whatever reason, just dont buy them. Period. Pretty simple concept really & it dosent require a Masters degree to figure out.

I havent ever smoked a Tat anything to be honest and it would be probably safe to assume I wont like them, but geeze man OBVIOUSLY many folks do, so why should I knock what someone else enjoys?

To each their own. If you aint footing the bill for someone else's Tat's, you got nothing to say other than you dont like the cigars.

:2

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Or anything else for that matter...cell phones, dvds, concert and sporting event tickets...etc. If somebody feels sad enough times over something that's really important to them...they'll figure out what needs to be done to stop feeling sad. IE: Find out how to obtain whatever they feel is important, or make it unimportant anymore. Those people who aren't on the different cigar boards, don't know that the majority of boutique cigars even exist...so they have no reason for bad feelings. And for those of us who are on the different cigar boards monitoring every move out favorite blenders make...well, we're poorer for it... :r

And as if chasing Tat's wasn't bad enough...now there's this Andre guy... :bh

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Pete keep on keeping on with your Holiday line, it’s a great product and IMO & fun to try to track down a box or two.

I look forward to meeting you during your upcoming visit to Outlaw Cigars in Kansas City next month!



:tu :tu :tu



Chris.....

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Well said, Kelly!


:tu


Chris.....

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so I guess this thread got bumped because of the other Tat Anarchy thread, but there is no new info on this strange mystery product yet? just checking :tu

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Sing it with me now,

Somewhere over the rainbow...

:xxx