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Rep for Imagery.

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I've tried the Droid and had a Blackberry for a while but they don't compare to what I can do with my iPhone 3gs (it's the only Apple product I've ever tried). It would be tough for me to go back to using another smart phone at this point.

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I'd love to hear what you can do on your iPhone that cannot be done on a Droid/BB that would make you so loyal?

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:r Ok, that almost got the coffee all over the screen. Sadly though, I work with 2 that you note sounds exactly as if you know them. :D

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Every product has it's fanboi's, the more niche the product the more rabid and insular (and loud) they tend to be. That's even more so when you're dealing with a company like Apple who's products tend to be highly (read: over) priced fashion accessories/statements for some of their customer base.

Don't get me wrong, Mac is a fabulous OS and if you're a graphics, photography, video or design professional there's nothing better on the market today. However if, like most people, you use your computer primarily for email/web/documents/looking at pictures/watching video, any Windows or Linux based PC can do just as good a job for 50% or less the total cost. For many people that choose Mac, the extra cost simply doesn't matter that much. They're happy to pay the premium for their chosen platform and quietly go on doing their thing, just as most Windows and Linux users do.

For a small subset though they have to try to justify their purchase in their own mind and that expresses itself in the stereotypical "RAH RAH RAH, Mac is so much better than everything else. RAH RAH RAH!!" fanboi-ism that's become associated with Apple people. You see the same thing in the Linux world, just with the cool factor that Mac has replaced by a geek factor. Rarely do you see it with Windows, but that's just because it's hard to get that passionate about something which is the defacto standard and on 95% of the machines out there.

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As a IT type this has been a great thread to follow and I've learned a good bit. You summed it up so well in this statement spot on. People who turn a blind eye to their favorite (pick any item here) scare me. Nothing is perfect. At times on the other hand, they do provide me with many hours of amusement in reading the flame wars at times. Today though, it's been nice to see that hasn't happened here. Lot's of good discussion on pro and cons of many phones I have not had a chance to use.

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Indeed.

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I'd agree, also as an IT type ;) I'm on the server/infrastructure side for a large health authority. We used to be an exclusively Blackberry shop but just recently opened up ActiveSync to iPhone's, basically because of pressure from our users. No Droid's allowed yet, but I'm sure that'll come once enough exec's or doctor's start demanding it. In the last 6 month's we've received maybe 3 or 4 requests to add a Blackberry to the system, everything has been either iPhone or Droid. I personally just ditched my Blackberry in favour of an iPhone (the only Apple product I'll use) because I couldn't stand the limitations of the BB platform anymore. I probably would have gone Droid instead if it'd been an option for syncing with Exchange but c'est la vie.

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I'm an old school Palm fan, but I think Droid will end up being the big winner in the smartphone space. WinMo flat out sucks, iPhone forces you to accept too much proprietary bs, RIM/Blackberry has their annual server outages... Palm's WebOS was a nice effort, but I think it was too little, too late. I read an uncomfirmed report on Engadget Mobile (IIRC) that they are now looking at Droid as well.
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Thats really now irrelevant, they are slowing the update cycle for android. The revisions on the OS are much slower now then they were with 1.0 - 1.6.


If I was looking for a phone I'd look for one that has the features NOW, rather then wait for an update.

I've had the G1 since Day 1 and have been playing with it, ROMS, UIs, and SPLS and I know the average person doesn't want to deal with that. It's not fun, i even bricked my phone once.
I'd like to believe that but the sad truth is that it's not. Windows wont allow the phone to have for something along the lines of having too many keys or not a dedicated bing search key.
Very lame, BUT xda-developers will come through with a work around, just don't expect official support.

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Well if Palm gets bought out soon maybe their webOS will get a nice face lift.

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I've read reports that it's a futile effort to give a terminally ill company a remodel..
No one is going to buy Palm when they can hire the people after it crumbles and license the IPs

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apply all the bashing back and forth as CC v. NC, Fuente v. Pepin, Zaya v. Zacapa, Pepsi v. Coke.


Like what you do, do what you like. Rabid sniping over platforms is masturbatory flagellation for a largely subjective thing. Things are worth what you get out of it. I like my HTC because it is the only one of its color, so piss off. :D

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I have a droid, but there are things that the iPhone does that my droid can't.

It has a far superior app store for one. Also, since I use itunes and mobileme and have 2 Macs, the seamless syncing between the devices would be much smoother, some things (like access to my iDisk) I can't do at all on my Droid.

Something I like that my droid does that an iphone couldn't would be complete a call or have 3G since ATT blows

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I think the market app store for android is very good. I can find every app I need and usually free.

I guess if you're a mac user the itunes would matter..but I just pop my 16 gig card out of my G-1 and into my PC and easily transfer files.

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Which is why an iPhone for you may not be the right answer :)

But come on, I'm not saying the Android market is crap, but there is no way you can honestly say its on par with apple. Not only in its number of apps, but how you can search, update, etc

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:tpd:

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So is anyone else following the iPhone 4.0 sneak peak? Live right now ;)

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/l...est&refresh=60

Biggest announcements so far:

1) Multitasking (FINALLY)

- including the ability for background music, phone, VoIP and location services

2) Folders for App organization.

3) Enhanced email

- support for integrated inbox
- multiple Exchange accounts
- open attachements directly from email with apps from app store

4) iBooks

5) Enterprise features

- better data security
- mobile device management (this sounds like a BES-like feature of remotely disabling devices)
- wireless app distribution
- Exchange 2010 and SSL VPN support
- looks like Apple is finally starting to make very aggressive steps into the enterprise market, as I mentioned before, RIM needs to innovate or the pressure from iPhone and Droid will remove them from their core business

6) More and better gaming

7) iAd - mobile advertising

- great more ads, more a end user perspective this is not exciting at all :(

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My original plan was to wait for the iPhone 4.0 to come out and then replace my current phone, but now I am in a situation as I can't sync the phone as like most really need the phone to its fullest capacity. I don't want to spend $200 for 3 months, in order to spend it again on an iPhone 4.0.

On top of it all, I think AT&T is just too expensive.

After my exprience over the last couple of weeks, the iPhone has lefta bad note with me. The only thing that could win me over is if AT&T gives me a free iPhone once I say I am leaving, but that'll never happen.

How easy is to port your telephone number from one carrier to the next?

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Quick and painless when i switched from ATT to Verizon years ago. I wouldn't see it getting more difficult so should be a breeze, they did it automatically for me @ Verizon when i switched :tu

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As long as you are out of contract, easy.
I was told that I could port my number while still in contract (just keep paying the remainder of my contract) when I left Sprint, but found out that was untrue. I fought with Sprint as they cancelled my contract and tried to charge me for breaking my contract, even though it was their own reps that said I could do it.

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I'm not sure what you mean? I can search for apps and update the current apps I have. I don't know about numbers but I cannot honestly say that having more apps means they are better.

The only thing you have to know is not to cancel your current plan. Let your new provider do the number porting first.

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This one apparently will work only on iPhone 3Gs, iTouch 3rd gen and iPad.

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I never said more is better. But with more comes better quality, more variety, etc.

And you don't have a format like itunes (not just on the device) that is anywhere near as good for searching and reviewing/previewing.

And what about an "update all" button? really bugs me the droid doesn't have that

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Doesn't the Droid have a notification of your apps most recent updates?

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yah, and then you get to update them all individually

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ah ok...I guess I'm just one to like updating specific apps.

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It's not gonna hit ipad till Fall. It's nice that it's come around. Changes pretty much everything to a good end. :tu

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Just went to T-Mobile, my phone choices are:

Mytouch
G1
HTC HD2
Samsung Behold 2
Motorola Cliq

Are there the expert opinions on these?

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Don't really know anything about those phones, but did see in the news recently where t-mobile was paying people with iphones to switch to a hd2
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10472925-1.html
I didn't really read any of the details or fine print, I'll leave that up to you :tu

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Mytouch - Not Bad
G1 - I love having a real keyboard
HTC HD2 - no exp
Samsung Behold 2 - no exp
Motorola Cliq - Very heavy and OS hasn't update.

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I'm not an expert on T-Mobile phones but I know the g-1 has been around for a while. It's bulky compared to the iPhone as well. I have hear good things about the MyTouch 3g (it runs Android).

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Do they have an ETA?

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This list is based on the one feature I just love on the iPhone - Visual Voicemail. I could never go back to dialing my queue.

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What is the diff with iPhone Visual VM and Google Voice?

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This question may have already been answered and I missed it so here I go. I'll be home in May and I want to drop my sprint phone and get an iphone. Will the new iphone 4.0 be out by the end of May?

Thanks,

Chris.....

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Not till summer, Chris. That probably means late September.

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:tpd: Or X-Mass.

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lol. Yup. There's that, too. :)

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Thanks guys, I might just hold off until the end of the year to upgrade my sprint phone.


:tu


Chris.....

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June has been the tradition for new phone released from June. Does not mean it is written in stone...

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Moses is the Behold 2 an option?

http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/...-33775406.html

Seems nice. My last phone was a Samsung and, like I said, the hardware was excellent.

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They are quoting a release date of "summer" for iPhone OS 4.0. Note that this is just the operating system they're talking about, there has been no announcement for the iPhone model that will replace the 3Gs yet. If Apple's patter hold's true, that will likely happen in June.

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My total Apple experience is limited to surfing a little on a friend's MacBook, and I have never owned any cellphone of any type. But I noticed the "Thumbs Down" rating this thread got, so looked to see the reason. For the life of me, I can't find one - unless Steve Jobs is a CA member.

All I'll say is, when an outsider like myself compares specs and price of Apple against other products, one wonders who would pay twice as much for half the product. That would make it four times better, and I find that hard to believe.

Oh, BTW, my Apple friend mentioned above now owns a PC laptop.

The Apple faithful are probably not happy that anyone would dare question the glory that is the iPhone. :r
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Hey hey now!!!! Are you implying that Iphone isn't worthy of such glory???? BLASPHEMY!!!!!

I love my Iphone :tu

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:tpd:

You're just not cool if you own a Thinkpad/PC, Android, Blackberry, or Zune.

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I don't see very many, if any, "fanboy" statements in this thread, just people explaining why they do like the iphone.

I sometimes think the PC or Palm fans are more guilty of the fanboyisms then they let on ;)


In fact there really isn't any bashing going on from iphone users against other products, only from that side against apple

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awwww.. shucks, I was just about to jump in the fray with a whole hearted endorsement of the moto droid. :sad

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In general, I enjoyed my iPhone except for a few things. The self learning dictionary is horrible. Spell a word wrong and it remembers it, there's no way to get rid of it unless you wipe out the whole phone. Real clever idea from Apple. If T-Mobile gets the iPhone with full functions (Visual Voicemail), I would consider the next one that comes out this summer.

The iPhone was the first of a phone I had been waiting forever for; touchscreen with a nice UI. For that, it was worth it, but just like Personal Computer from IBM, it wasn't the end, just the beginning. How many are using IBM desktops now? Not that they are bad, they are not.