Re: In your opinion which NC is closest to a CC?
 

Tom,
Let me see if I remember my learnings from "Logic" classes in school.
Here goes nothing.

My wife says I have "unapproachable credentials" when I forget to wear deodorant and do gardening.
I believe everything I read after I write it down.
Therefore, if I read something after I write it down, after doing gardening while forgetting to wear deodorant, then I too have read and written something for which I have "unapproachable credentials'.
:r:r:r

Re: In your opinion which NC is closest to a CC?
 

Your conclusion"seems" valid but is not because your premises are invalid.
Therefore your argument is unsound. But it mad me smile.

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I seriously doubt your percentages are correct. I quote David Savona's blog on cigar aficionado when I say:
"Suckling said he vastly underestimated how many Cuban cigars
were smoked by Americans, estimating the number to be around
8 to 12 million cigars per year. Officials from Habanos S.A., Cuba's
cigar exporting organization, told him that they estimate the figure
to be 25 million or even 50 million units per year."
If your percentage was right then, that would mean Americans were consuming 500 million to 1 billion fake cigars a year. :rolleyes: That's a lot of Cohibos.

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And trust.... the far reaching "Gubmint Arm of da law" would "lub to get its paws on some o dat tax munee!"

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To me, that number does seem way out of proportion. It would make sense to me that 90% of americans who buy a handful CCs while on vacation, or from a buddy, or from the back room of their B&M are buying fakes. But I think that the amount of people who buy hundreds of boxes a year really offset those figures.

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Yeah, I think the 'trusted authors' confused the fact that 90% of Americans who think they have smoked a Cuban cigar have only smoked fakes. The thing is, the 10 percent that know better smoke a lot more of the genuine thing than tourists do fakes on vacation.

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Any CCs that taste like Nicaraguan cigars? Then maybe I would smoke more CCs LOL.

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I haven't tried one so I can't say they taste Nicaraguan, but it seems like the new Cohiba Behike was designed explicitly for the American market; a whole extra leaf of ligero, gigantic ring gauges and a swollen price to match. Suckling said it almost blew his head off:rolleyes:, so it may have more of the kick you're looking for.

Re: In your opinion which NC is closest to a CC?
 

I find this interesting. To me the Mag 48 and Mag 50 both taste like NC's to me. More so than even a RyJ Cazadores which many believe to be the closest to NC tasting CC. I am however, in the minority most of the time in regards to taste.

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Really?
Wow. Goes to show tastes vary. Everyone perceives things in a unique way.

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First I've heard of anyone stating this . . . let alone many.

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Found a couple on here:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showpo...2&postcount=10

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Ain't that the truth!!!! :banger

Re: In your opinion which NC is closest to a CC?
 

Cigars are no different than foods or beverages.
The taste is acquired via our sense of smell and taste.
That sense varies from individual to individual.
Some have certain flavor sensors more developed or more acute than others.
That said, there is a wide array of foods, beverages and vices such as cigars that pass through our senses and in turn are interpreted.

For determining what can be labeled as what when it comes to these senses, what the masses perceive is probably the best barometer rather than what one or two or a few perceive.

So...............if the masses taste CC's and find them nothing like NC's, that doesn't make the few dissenters wrong. It just means their senses are different in this regard to this flavor being picked up.

Can some be fooled by NCs and think they are CC's? Sure, why not? Some of the NC's I have had lately are amazing. However, to me, they are still different.
Can all be fooled? I say no way.
So, whoever found a Cazadores to taste like a NC, that is their taste sensing profile speaking. The masses seem to disagree and perhaps that is the best barometer. Either way, doesn't make either side wrong.

BTW,
They are probably all made out of the same tobacco anyway as 90-95% are fake anyhow. That is why those Cazadores, Mag 50 and Mag 48 all taste like NC's.;)

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Carlos: As Long As They "Taste" Like The The Real Thing; I Don't Care, Brother!:D

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I'm glad you agree with me on those RyJ Cazadores...

I'm telling you, that's the only CC that tastes EXACTLY LIKE a Nic Puro, a la Pepin. Must be the foil fermentation that does it.

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I don't agree with Wayne on the Mag 50s (haven't smoked a 48 yet... still waiting for them to dry out a little)...

Long time ago, Wayne sent me a RyJ Cazadores that I smoked in a Blind Taste Test. Usually my palate is pretty well balanced, but I would have bet the farm that it was an NC.

I've also passed a Tat Cazadores with a RyJ Cazadores at the same time. Several people thought they were the same cigar.

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And, Carlos said it best.

Taste is very perceptual.