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mithrilG60 03-23-2010 09:30 AM

Re: Census 2010
 
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Originally Posted by skibumdc (Post 803384)
While mostly true, neighborhoods and zip codes can change drastically in the 10 years between censuseseses. sp? :)
Example: The Northern Virginia landscape has changed so dramatically over the past decade, the census data taken in 2000 has been worthless for school planning since 2002.

We still need the census, but the data is truly only useful in a suburban environment like the DC Metro area for 2 years. Demographics, income levels, age groups can change in as little as a year based on an article in the Post.

That's quite true, but those are the limitations imposed by the census mechanism the US has chosen to implement, so it is what you have to work with. Partially to overcome the data validity due to age issue Canada does a census every 5 years instead of every 10. Our census also asks for much more detail in some areas (level of education, income levels, marital status, employment, etc) and the general statistical information is released publicly almost immediately. I don't know how long the waiting period is to get individual specific data though as I've never really gotten into genealogy or family research.

Blueface 03-23-2010 09:47 AM

Re: Census 2010
 
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Originally Posted by cricky101 (Post 803379)
I filled mine out and mailed it yesterday, and lo and behold, the sun still rose this morning. :rolleyes:


And between tax returns, passport applications and driver's license info, they already know everything about me.

May be true but look at it from my perspective being Cuban and being one of three Hispanic groups signaled out.
I can't help but scratch my head and wonder why my government is so interested in knowing how many of you there are yet is not interested in knowing about any of the many other Hispanics there are in the world residing in the US such as folks from Honduras, Nicaragua, Panama, Costa Rica, Colombia, Ecuador, Bolivia, Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Paraguay, Republica Dominicana, Spain, and the others I have left out.

Nope, not interested in any of those. Just Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and Cubans. Doesn't make me lose sleep but certainly makes me question what the intent is. I would have been OK if they asked if you are Hispanic and then asked what country, rather than focus on just three.

UPDATE:
Ooops, forgot to read the next box asking if any other Hispanic origin.
I can sleep now.
There goes my conspiracy theory.
What the heck do I do with my time now?:r:r:r

replicant_argent 03-23-2010 09:57 AM

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Because, oddly enough, the government wants to blot out racism, yet still requires that we classify ourselves.
Nothing wrong at all with the first part.
The second part is pure hypocrisy.
One constituent, one vote. Nothing else matters.

Blueface 03-23-2010 09:59 AM

Re: Census 2010
 
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Originally Posted by replicant_argent (Post 803424)
Because, oddly enough, the government wants to blot out racism, yet still requires that we classify ourselves.

Hey!!!
Pete,
It is important to keep tabs on those darn Hispanics.
Freaking terrorists I tell you.:r
We need to know when they will become the majority and what is left is the new minority.:r

replicant_argent 03-23-2010 10:01 AM

Re: Census 2010
 
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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 803425)
Hey!!!
Pete,
It is important to keep tabs on those darn Hispanics.
Freaking terrorists I tell you.:r
We need to know when they will become the majority and what is left is the new minority.:r

Hola, mi amo. ;)

Blueface 03-23-2010 10:03 AM

Re: Census 2010
 
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Originally Posted by replicant_argent (Post 803426)
Hola, mi amo. ;)

You better get your Spanish much more refined than that.
When we take over, we are going to make Spanish the official language.:r
After all, it already is if you leave the country and go to South Florida.:r

replicant_argent 03-23-2010 10:05 AM

Re: Census 2010
 
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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 803430)
You better get your Spanish much more refined than that.
When we take over, we are going to make Spanish the official language.:r
After all, it already is if you leave the country and go to South Florida.:r

damn, now I have to use one of the only other 4 phrases I know.




Dos cerveza, por favor, amigo?

Blueface 03-23-2010 10:16 AM

Re: Census 2010
 
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Originally Posted by raisin (Post 803370)
Was it television that made stupidity so popular in America?

Depends on what channel you watched I guess.
If HSN, you bought a whole lot of crap you don't need.
If Sesame Street, you learned how to count.
I can count in four languages. I guess I must have watched a ton of it, in various languages.

kydsid 03-23-2010 10:34 AM

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Carlos you aren't the only one bugged by the Census. It is an old American tradition going back to every single census.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20000859-38.html

Neuromancer 03-23-2010 10:49 AM

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Carlos...fill out the freakin' form already...http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-.../deadhorse.gif

T.G 03-23-2010 10:51 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_kZE7MSlLw

JaKaacH 03-23-2010 11:10 AM

Re: Census 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cricky101 (Post 803379)
I filled mine out and mailed it yesterday, and lo and behold, the sun still rose this morning. :rolleyes:


And between tax returns, passport applications and driver's license info, they already know everything about me.

Another reason why the census is a big waste of money..With todays technology can't they figure out where everyones at without pissing away tax money every 10 years?

BC-Axeman 03-23-2010 11:30 AM

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Garbage in, garbage out.
I will give the minimum I think I can get away with. Let them try to come knock on my door.

Blueface 03-23-2010 12:56 PM

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:r:r:r

I just got my mail.
A reminder card that I should have gotten it already.

Too funny!!!

Rabidsquirrel 03-23-2010 03:13 PM

Re: Census 2010
 
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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 803174)
What I meant is we use to have to walk around with documents and offer them up to the government at any request, at any time.

Hah, now that you point that out, that's the only way I can read it.

RBOrrell 03-28-2010 10:52 AM

Re: Census 2010
 
Do they sell tin-foil hats for those that don't fill out cenus forms?

captain53 03-28-2010 10:55 AM

Re: Census 2010
 
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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 802542)
Maybe it is me and what I do for a living that makes me uneasy when someone asks for my name and date of birth.
Why is the census asking for that?
Since when is this a process to attach a name to a statistic?
I can see asking my age.
I can see asking information about individuals in my household as they have a valid address to whom they mailed it to. However, it was mailed to "RESIDENT" and I feel it should stay that way.
They are not going to get that from me.

Here is the kicker, can we have your phone number in case we don't understand the answers. These freaking questions are as basic as 1+1.

Am I being too paranoid? I never participated in any prior census so wouldn't know what others have been like before. Curious to hear from those that have.

:tpd::banger

Blueface 03-28-2010 11:37 AM

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:r

I just learned they will follow up with you SIX TIMES!!!
They will hunt you down until they find you.

:r

I filled it out and am sitting on it.
Since I will be traveling quite a bit in the near future, can't wait to see how, when and what city they will ultimately find me.

Rabidsquirrel 03-28-2010 12:14 PM

Re: Census 2010
 
All it is is a snapshot in time. It's great for people (like me) who are trying to trace their family back in time.

Neuromancer 03-28-2010 04:38 PM

Re: Census 2010
 
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Originally Posted by Rabidsquirrel (Post 808889)
All it is is a snapshot in time. It's great for people (like me) who are trying to trace their family back in time.

You're not going to be able to use this census for tracing anyone...they're only released to the public after 72 years...right now I've used the 1910, 1920, and 1930 census to look up grandparents and great-aunts and great-uncles...in 2012 the 1940 census will be relased to the public...and I'll have to wait until 2022 for the 1950 census in which I should first appear...

Rabidsquirrel 03-28-2010 05:16 PM

Re: Census 2010
 
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer (Post 809096)
You're not going to be able to use this census for tracing anyone...

I know, but maybe someone down the road wants to know about me.

BC-Axeman 03-28-2010 09:09 PM

Re: Census 2010
 
I don't have a valid mailing address. This has caused me some minor problems in the past. I do have valid ways of receiving mail. So far, no census.

Razorhog 03-28-2010 09:13 PM

Re: Census 2010
 
I still haven't received the form. If I do get it soon, should I count my two sons who will be born in the next few weeks?

T.G 03-28-2010 09:44 PM

Re: Census 2010
 
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Originally Posted by Razorhog (Post 809274)
I still haven't received the form. If I do get it soon, should I count my two sons who will be born in the next few weeks?

Count them as 95% each.

smokin5 03-29-2010 09:51 AM

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Blueface (& others), you're either too paranoid or not paranoid enough.
Presuming you file income tax returns (you DO file them, don't you?), you've already given them a ton & 1/2 of your personal info & then some. Address? Check. Occupation? Check. Every bank account on which you earn interest? Check. Every investment on which you get dividends? Check. Where you work? With whom you have your mortgage? Check & Check. Your social security number, which can then be used to pull up every credit card, auto loan & other debt you've had, not to mention your birthday? Oh yeah, that too.
Shall I continue, or has my point been made?
The federal government already knows more about you than you might know about yourself. The census info requested is benign compared to all the other info you've already volunteered to the government. Get over it or move to a cave in the forest. :tf

BC-Axeman 03-29-2010 10:46 AM

Re: Census 2010
 
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Originally Posted by smokin5 (Post 809668)
Blueface (& others), you're either too paranoid or not paranoid enough.
Presuming you file income tax returns (you DO file them, don't you?), you've already given them a ton & 1/2 of your personal info & then some. Address? Check. Occupation? Check. Every bank account on which you earn interest? Check. Every investment on which you get dividends? Check. Where you work? With whom you have your mortgage? Check & Check. Your social security number, which can then be used to pull up every credit card, auto loan & other debt you've had, not to mention your birthday? Oh yeah, that too.
Shall I continue, or has my point been made?
The federal government already knows more about you than you might know about yourself. The census info requested is benign compared to all the other info you've already volunteered to the government. Get over it or move to a cave in the forest. :tf

They know what I let them know. I know what they know. There are ways of obfuscating the data. 'Nuff said.

BlackDog 03-29-2010 12:58 PM

Re: Census 2010
 
I've been part of a longer-term census survey since the beginning of the year. They call me and ask the same questions each month (for 9 months) about the employment and/or schooling of each family member. Each call takes about a half hour, which I find to be a nuisance. Same script 5 times, once for each member of the family over the age of 15. How many days did you work in "X" month, how many days were you off on vacation/sickness, how many days off due to layoff/slack work, how much did you earn, does your employer provide health insurance, do you want another job, have you been looking for another job, etc., etc. It's certainly a lot more info than the Constitution stipulates.


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