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Resipsa 01-28-2010 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 738146)
Unless the text is clearer on the iPad than it is on the iPhone this will not be a Kindle killer.

The readablity of the Kindle far outstrips the iPhone. Staring at a iPhone reading a book is an eye-killer. Plus the Kindle is half the cost of the basic iPad.

If the iPad ever incorporates the e-ink technology then it would be a Kindle killer.

Actually, the kindle dx is the same price, which would be the closest match in screen size.

We can agree to disagree, no problem there. One trick ponies very rarely last for long once alternatives hit the street in the tech world. The fact that e ink is a little easier on the eyes isn't going to mean much when dedicated ebook readers are monochrome, very slow to
refresh, incapable of doing video based on poor refesh rates, can't run other apps, etc.

I want some kind of tablet that handles all of my needs, both business and personal. Could wind up being the Ipad, could be one of the Android or Windows tablets that are going to appear soon

The requirement for me is that it be a tablet, and the screen be at least in the 10 inch range, preferablly a little bigger. Not interested in a netbook, smartbook, laptop or anything else, for work related reasons it needs to be a tablet, and preferably, needs to do more than just show me a book.
If it's not e ink that's a tradeoff I'm very willing to make, and most people are going to feel the same way.

Wanger 01-28-2010 09:09 AM

Re: Apple's iPad...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 738146)
Unless the text is clearer on the iPad than it is on the iPhone this will not be a Kindle killer.

The readablity of the Kindle far outstrips the iPhone. Staring at a iPhone reading a book is an eye-killer. Plus the Kindle is half the cost of the basic iPad.

If the iPad ever incorporates the e-ink technology then it would be a Kindle killer.

Wouldn't the size difference indicate that it would be easier to see/clearer on one of these than an iPhone?

Mugen910 01-28-2010 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 738162)
I want some kind of tablet that handles all of my needs, both business and personal. Could wind up being the Ipad, could be one of the Android or Windows tablets that are going to appear soon

An Android Tablet....now that would peak my interest...free apps..and prob less restrictions.

I've always loved the tablet idea but the key is the apps and the perfect tablet size...

Resipsa 01-28-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910 (Post 738193)
An Android Tablet....now that would peak my interest...free apps..and prob less restrictions.

I've always loved the tablet idea but the key is the apps and the perfect tablet size...

They're coming......

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/m...tegra-chipset/

Doctorossi 01-28-2010 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910 (Post 738193)
An Android Tablet....now that would peak my interest...free apps..and prob less restrictions.

I'd rather pay a couple bucks each for my choice from a couple hundred-thousand apps than have my fill of a few hundred free crappy ones.

fishstix 01-28-2010 10:01 AM

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personally my take on this is that this may actually compete in the laptop margin.

I mean I bought my laptop due to space constraints along with ease of carrying while mobile. I can have a computing machine with decent graphics that plays all my games and operates all my programs, however, as a media machine it works great but size is still a major factor here.

If Apple can actually pull this off where I can get a media machine (plays movies and music decently) backed with the "basic" functions my laptop performs (i.e. minimalsitic web browsing, e-mail) and fits it in an easy to use yet compact enough size then why not?

I own a 1st gen touch and have no reason to get rid of it (due to its size), but one cannot overlook the funcionality that this thing might be able to perform and the different niche's that this thing can fill.

Is it a media machine = yes - is it an IPOD = no (due to size).
Is it a full blown laptop = heck no, will it perform the DAILY needs I use my laptop for = yes, and then some.

As far as a kindle killer, we'll have to see what happens. hardcore kindle users have their strong likes for the product. if Apple (or an associated open source program) can design a reader for it that can produce the "softness" that the kindle delivers for e-books texts they'll definately do well.

I wont be lining up to buy one but will definately look into it. heck I'll probably wait until vajacases decides to make a full blown protective case for them before I pick one up.

Either way, I like the concept for what I can do with it vs the other devices I currently own.

Calexan 01-28-2010 10:04 AM

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G4 was claiming that the 10hr claim was while it was connected to 802.11n and watching video in 720p format.... Dont know much else, thats just what they were saying.

I think no multitasking is a disaster.

King James 01-28-2010 10:29 AM

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Multitasking is an update away. The no camera is a bummer, but not a deal breaker for me. The accessory to plug into a full keyboard is sweet, but I'd never use that since I have a macbook. The thing looks sweet, and I think it will kill the kindle and nook. Apple's OS is amazing and there is no way a nook or kindle can compete when the iPad will probably be a better stand-alone ebook reader, and then when you add all the apps and internet ..... there is no match.

I will probably wait for the next generation one before I consider getting one.... I think it is cool, but don't have much of a reason for one right now. I would want a bigger HDD, too

Mugen910 01-28-2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi (Post 738207)
I'd rather pay a couple bucks each for my choice from a couple hundred-thousand apps than have my fill of a few hundred free crappy ones.

I concur..if there is an app worth paying for I'd then pay for it..but it's nice to have the options of free apps.

jkim05 01-28-2010 10:50 AM

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I want one. Just because. I already have an Iphone, Ipod nano, a netbook, two desktops, a laptop, etc., but I really wanted to get an Itouch just for the heck of it. Now I could get this instead, though I will wait probably for the 2nd gen or at least more reviews before I buy.

Resipsa 01-28-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by King James (Post 738237)
. I would want a bigger HDD, too

Jim, Apple is selling a camera kit that lets you plug into the dock connecter, use a SD card and transfer pictures and videos. Don't know what that means, and don't know if you'll be able to just carry a bunch of music and movies on an SD card and transfer ( or maybe even play them directly from the card). If that's so, the size of the flash storage may be a non issue.

Thrak 01-28-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jkim05 (Post 738250)
I want one. Just because. I already have an Iphone, Ipod nano, a netbook, two desktops, a laptop, etc., but I really wanted to get an Itouch just for the heck of it. Now I could get this instead, though I will wait probably for the 2nd gen or at least more reviews before I buy.

so what you're saying is, dont look to you for an objective review... :r

JE3146 01-28-2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Calexan (Post 738219)
G4 was claiming that the 10hr claim was while it was connected to 802.11n and watching video in 720p format.... Dont know much else, thats just what they were saying.

I think no multitasking is a disaster.

Connected and sending data are two different animals entirely.

JE3146 01-28-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910 (Post 738083)
This is cooler!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFNQE_TzQNI


In all seriousness once the iPad gets unrestricted (multitasking and VOIP ) things will be better...but it is just a bigger iPhone. $5 says the next gen will have a USB port...then the 3rd gen will have HDMI output, 4th gen multitasking...and people will just keep on buying every level. :r

:r

King James 01-28-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 738272)
Jim, Apple is selling a camera kit that lets you plug into the dock connecter, use a SD card and transfer pictures and videos. Don't know what that means, and don't know if you'll be able to just carry a bunch of music and movies on an SD card and transfer ( or maybe even play them directly from the card). If that's so, the size of the flash storage may be a non issue.

stop trying to talk me into one, Vic...dangit lol. It has been hard enough trying to justify why I do not and now you are knocking down all my arguements! :r

Thrak 02-01-2010 11:10 AM

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http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...4649207811.jpg

http://honda-tech.com/attachment.php...1&d=1264687375

Deputy 02-01-2010 12:16 PM

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I think Apple kinda dropped the ball on this one. No camera, no projector...no real multitasking capabilities....meh

RazzBarlow 02-01-2010 12:54 PM

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I'll keep my Kindle and Blackberry and still be ahead of the game by $150 or so

CigarNut 02-01-2010 01:13 PM

Re: Apple's iPad...
 
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Originally Posted by RazzBarlow (Post 743341)
I'll keep my Kindle and Blackberry and still be ahead of the game by $150 or so

It's interesting to me that all the people who think the iPad is a "Kindle Killer" have never actually used a Kindle...

I would hope to god that I would not have to be stuck with the iPad for reading a book... My eyes would be shot within a matter of days.

JE3146 02-01-2010 02:14 PM

Re: Apple's iPad...
 
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Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 743360)
It's interesting to me that all the people who think the iPad is a "Kindle Killer" have never actually used a Kindle...

I would hope to god that I would not have to be stuck with the iPad for reading a book... My eyes would be shot within a matter of days.

Same reason why when I have to read IEEE documents for a class or some datasheet, that I print it off, and then read it. Waste of paper? Sure. But I have enough issues with my eyes that I don't want to add more eyestrain to the mix.

Glossy screens are not meant for reading. There's a reason E-Ink is so popular with the portable reading devices. (Besides ridiculously low power consumption :D )

King James 02-01-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrak (Post 743229)

cute list, I love all the untrue, half-true, and completely irrelevant things on it

for instance:

you can get 3G
Why would it be a phone? although skype calls are possible
multitasking is an update away
can use SD cards for expandle memory, maybe more if you unlock the ipad
why the hell would it have windows or linux? its apple
no good games? LOL
also can use USB as well
physical keyboard with the $40 accessory
handwriting and voice recognitions will be out within the first few updates
Free internet????? when is anything ever free...go sit at starbucks I guess, theres your free internet

RazzBarlow 02-01-2010 02:46 PM

Re: Apple's iPad...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 743360)
It's interesting to me that all the people who think the iPad is a "Kindle Killer" have never actually used a Kindle...

I would hope to god that I would not have to be stuck with the iPad for reading a book... My eyes would be shot within a matter of days.

I don't view the iPad as a Kindle Killer. I LOVE my Kindle. It's one of the best devices I've ever bought! I really love how easy the screen is on my eyes and the ease of use.

pnoon 02-01-2010 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RazzBarlow (Post 743461)
I don't view the iPad as a Kindle Killer. I LOVE my Kindle. It's one of the best devices I've ever bought! I really love how easy the screen is on my eyes and the ease of use.

:tpd:

You're a fart smeller . . . er . . . smart feller, Marshall. :D

Blueface 02-01-2010 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by King James (Post 743454)
cute list, I love all the untrue, half-true, and completely irrelevant things on it

for instance:

you can get 3G
Why would it be a phone? although skype calls are possible
multitasking is an update away
can use SD cards for expandle memory, maybe more if you unlock the ipad
why the hell would it have windows or linux? its apple
no good games? LOL
also can use USB as well
physical keyboard with the $40 accessory
handwriting and voice recognitions will be out within the first few updates
Free internet????? when is anything ever free...go sit at starbucks I guess, theres your free internet

:r
Good analysis Jim.

RazzBarlow 02-01-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 743464)
:tpd:

You're a fart smeller . . . er . . . smart feller, Marshall. :D

Sir, are you somehow implying that I sniff my own. . .?

Thrak 02-01-2010 05:40 PM

Re: Apple's iPad...
 
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Originally Posted by King James (Post 743454)
cute list, I love all the untrue, half-true, and completely irrelevant things on it

for instance:

you can get 3G
Why would it be a phone? although skype calls are possible
multitasking is an update away
can use SD cards for expandle memory, maybe more if you unlock the ipad
why the hell would it have windows or linux? its apple
no good games? LOL
also can use USB as well
physical keyboard with the $40 accessory
handwriting and voice recognitions will be out within the first few updates
Free internet????? when is anything ever free...go sit at starbucks I guess, theres your free internet



It was a joke... It must have hit a nerve lol...

King James 02-01-2010 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrak (Post 743665)
It was a joke... It must have hit a nerve lol...

no, didn't think you made the list.... just pointing out that someone did and probably mostly believes it.... and I'm sure I could find plenty of people to go along with it as well

replicant_argent 02-02-2010 09:57 AM

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An interesting article I found thought provoking.
http://stevenf.tumblr.com/post/35922...uters-ive-been


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