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icehog3 09-04-2010 03:28 PM
Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground
 
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Floyd Mayweather Jr., who has steadfastly refused to answer questions about the most recent round of failed negotiations for a fight with Manny Pacquiao, has unleashed a profanity-filled racist and homophobic Internet rant against the Filipino star.

In an approximately 10-minute Ustream video, apparently made Thursday and also posted on YouTube, Mayweather repeated his assertion that Pacquiao uses performance-enhancing drugs, an accusation that resulted in a defamation lawsuit from Pacquiao earlier this year.

"I'm on vacation for about a year, about a year," Mayweather said. "As soon as we come off vacation, we're going to cook that little yellow chump. We ain't worried about that. So they ain't gotta worry about me fighting the midget. Once I kick the midget ass, I don't want you all to jump on my d---. So you all better get on the bandwagon now. ... Once I stomp the midget, I'll make that mother f----- make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice."
It gets a lot worse, but I won't offend by posting more....what a POS. :2

GreekGodX 10-26-2011 08:43 PM
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HOLLYWOOD, Calif -- Don't hold your breath for that Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather megafight. As far as Top Rank CEO Bob Arum is concerned it's never happening.

"That fight will never, ever happen," Arum said. "Ever, ever happen because of Mayweather.

"When Mayweather talks about how he hates Top Rank he's talking bulls---. What Mayweather hates is Manny's right hand. Mayweather has no chin and Manny will knock him out. Pacquiao and Mayweather is a three or four-round fight. Period. And who knows that best? Mayweather. The one thing Mayweather has had throughout his career is he knows boxing. He understands boxing and Mayweather can not compete with Manny. It's the right hand of Manny that is preventing that fight from happening. If Manny agreed just to jab with the right hand the fight would be made in 30 seconds."

Pacquiao's promoter made the comments before Pacquiao's media day workout leading up to his Nov. 12 fight against Juan Manuel Marquez.

"Once Manny demonstrated that fearsome right hand there was no chance ever that the fight would happen," Arum said. "None. Don't kid yourself. I know Mayweather, everything else is bulls---."

When Pacquaio was asked about the megafight he smiled, shrugged his shoulders and answered the same way he normally does.

"I don't know," he said. "Maybe the promoters can not afford him. I think that's the reason. The promoters cannot afford him. What he's asking is hard."

Arum also said Mayweather tarnished boxing and cheated the fans with the way he beat Victor Ortiz last month.

"Mayweather demonstrated a complete lack of sportsmanship and the public that paid for that was cheated," Arum said. "I don't care about the baloney about protect yourself at all times and its a legal shot. That's not the issue. The fighter has the obligation to entertain the public and hitting this kid with two cheap shots really put a damper on boxing. For me, f--- the legacy, he cheated the public."

Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach said Pacquiao will only fight for two more years and four to five more fights before retiring and focusing on his political career and believes it is important for Pacquiao's legacy that he fight Mayweather.

"I think it would be good for boxing and good for the world if that fight happened," Roach said. "If that doesn't happen there will always be a question mark why they didn't fight each other. If Floyd ends up undefeated but didn't fight Manny Pacquiao it's going to haunt him for the rest of his life, but I don't think he thinks logically. It's always something with him. Only he knows why he won't take this fight."

Roach believes the fight needs to happen by next year for it to live up to its lofty expectations, but after so many false starts he's not making any predictions.

"You don't want them to fight when its too late and they're too old and the fight's not as spectacular," Roach said. "They're both in their prime right now and I think it needs to happen now. People around the world are getting tired of it. They need to fight already."
The latest news from Bob Arum on Pacquiao vs Mayweather. I wish they would just fight. Mayweather could really help his career out by doing it. The money they would both get would be insane.

Link to the story quoted above

icehog3 10-27-2011 12:11 AM
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Arum has an agenda here as well....but like you, Son, I just wish it would happen. Boxing needs it.

GreekGodX 11-03-2011 01:57 PM
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Perhaps setting the stage?

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Floyd Mayweather Jr. does not plan on taking another 16-month vacation from the boxing ring, like he did after easily outpointing Shane Mosley in May 2010.

Instead, Mayweather, who knocked out Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17, will make a relatively hasty return: May 5 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com on Wednesday night.

Mayweather's opponent has not been determined but Ellerbe said, "We're looking to make the biggest fight possible and everyone knows what that fight is, the little fella."

Ellerbe was, of course, referring to Manny Pacquiao. The welterweight champions and the top two pound-for-pound fighters in the world have been on a collision course for years. However, negotiations have fallen apart over drug testing protocol.

Pacquiao is set to fight Juan Manuel Marquez for the third time Nov. 12 at the MGM Grand and is a heavy favorite.

"Floyd made it very clear that he wants to give the fans the biggest fights that are out there. He wants to stay active," Ellerbe said. "We're going to do everything in our power to make the biggest fight out there for the fans and we all know what the fight is."

Mayweather, a five-division champion, has fought only five times since 2007.

Ellerbe said Mayweather informed him and fellow adviser Al Haymon on Wednesday of his decision to return in May.

"We had a discussion, Floyd, me and Al," Ellerbe said. "Floyd made it very clear to us what he wanted to do. He told us he is looking to make the biggest fight that is out there and to make it in May."

Ellerbe also informed Golden Boy promoter Richard Schaefer, who does not have a contract with Mayweather but has promoted his last five bouts, of the plan.

"I'm very excited that the sport's biggest pay-per-view star is going to be back on May 5," Schaefer told ESPN.com. "We have informed the pay-per-view industry and I have the arena on hold. I'm excited to continue my relationship with Floyd and his team. It's always fun to work with Floyd."

Although May 5 is seven months away, Mayweather's fights have typically been promoted for several months in advance of the fight. The first weekend of May is traditionally a weekend for a major pay-per-view fight.

"We have to plan any time you're the biggest star in the sport," Ellerbe said. "You have to plan in advance because his fights are events. In order to maximize the exposure you want to plan as far in advance as you can to make your event as big as possible. May 5, that is the date Floyd is fighting on. We have secured May 5 at the MGM. Floyd is excited to make his return."

Mayweather (42-0, 26 KOs), who turns 35 in February, reclaimed one of his old welterweight titles with his knockout of Ortiz in a fight that Golden Boy said generated 1.25 million buys and $78.44 million in domestic pay-per-view revenue. The buys tied the fight for third place all-time among non-heavyweight pay-per-views and gave Mayweather his third consecutive 1 million-plus pay-per-view fight and fourth in his last five bouts.

Although Mayweather plans to fight, he still faces several legal cases. He was acquitted last week of misdemeanor harassment charges alleging that he had threatened the lives of two security guards in the gated community in Las Vegas where he lives. But he faces a trial for a misdemeanor battery complaint alleging he poked another homeowner association security guard in the face during a different confrontation over parking tickets last November. Mayweather has pleaded not guilty.

In the most serious case, Mayweather faces four felony and four misdemeanor charges stemming from an alleged domestic dispute with his former girlfriend, who is the mother of two of his children.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. eyes May 5 fight

kydsid 11-03-2011 02:05 PM
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You know what both of them and the rest of boxing can just go to hell. I haven't watched anything in more than a year and honestly don't plan on it at all. They have turned boxing into a soap opera (media, hbo 24/7, the grandstanding etc). Just good boxing, thats all I want and they can't deliver.

chippewastud79 11-03-2011 09:33 PM
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Unfotunately, this could merely be more grandstanding by Mayweather to hype a fight against someone other than his most imposing potential foe. :hm

loki 11-03-2011 10:04 PM
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i'm sure it'll happen this time...I'm sure the other times of this not happening were just flukes...

GreekGodX 11-04-2011 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1463069)
Unfotunately, this could merely be more grandstanding by Mayweather to hype a fight against someone other than his most imposing potential foe. :hm
I think you are right, Adam. Bob Arum's answer back..

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When we asked yesterday whether Floyd Mayweather was serious about setting up a fight against Manny Pacquiao, 59% voted that it was "just more Mayweather blather."

Apparently Bob Arum, the promoter for Pacquiao, agrees with the majority. He thinks Mayweather's camp putting out the May 5 date was laughable.

"The way they are going about it seems like a bizarre way to go about it," Arum told ESPN's Dan Rafael. "If you want to put it together, you meet, you talk. You don't just come out and say, 'The fight is May 5 at the MGM.' ...I think it's Floyd's way of trying to grab a little bit of the spotlight away from Manny. I'm not going to get upset. I take it with a grain of salt."

Pacquiao fights Juan Manuel Marquez on Nov. 12.

Arum says the other side knows his phone number.

"When they want to do some serious negotiating somebody will call me... and we will sit down and talk. It's obviously a fight we want to make."
Bob Arum answers back

GreekGodX 01-10-2012 03:29 PM
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Hoping this really happens, fingers crossed!

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"Manny Pacquiao I'm calling you out let's fight May 5th and give the world what they want to see," read Mayweather's first tweet.

One minute later, Mayweather followed with this: "My Jail Sentence was pushed back because the date was locked in. Step up Punk."
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...cquiao-5-fight

Taki 01-10-2012 04:13 PM
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I still think Mayweather is a better fighter strategically speaking....very illusive, I think he stands a great chance in going the distance and winning the fight!

Taki 01-10-2012 04:15 PM
Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground
 
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Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 1462605)
You know what both of them and the rest of boxing can just go to hell. I haven't watched anything in more than a year and honestly don't plan on it at all. They have turned boxing into a soap opera (media, hbo 24/7, the grandstanding etc). Just good boxing, thats all I want and they can't deliver.
Dido....

MMA :tu Much more diverse and much more skill

ArgusP2 01-10-2012 04:17 PM
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Calling him "out" over Twitter? Yeah, that's going to be taken seriously...

icehog3 01-10-2012 04:21 PM
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Still hoping this happens, at least Manny gets an opportunity to shut Big Mouth's yapper.

What is "Dido"? Are you missing an "L"? :r

ArgusP2 01-10-2012 04:36 PM
Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground
 
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1526614)
Still hoping this happens, at least Manny gets an opportunity to shut Big Mouth's yapper.

What is "Dido"? Are you missing an "L"? :r
Could be a fan of the singer? :r
;s

GreekGodX 01-10-2012 04:39 PM
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I read another article that said Pacquiao was going to tell his promoter that the only fight he wants is Mayweather. But I also read somewhere else that a injury to Pacquiao would keep him out of a fight until June.

icehog3 01-10-2012 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 1526629)
I read another article that said Pacquiao was going to tell his promoter that the only fight he wants is Mayweather. But I also read somewhere else that a injury to Pacquiao would keep him out of a fight until June.
Prison Death Match! :wo

Zeuceone 01-10-2012 09:30 PM
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Ill believe it when they say it on facebook

icehog3 01-10-2012 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeuceone (Post 1526801)
Ill believe it when they say it on facebook
What is "Facebook"? I have never seen it mentioned on MySpace.....

BnBTobacco 01-10-2012 09:53 PM
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Same with the millions of boxing fans, I am hoping for this fight to materialize in order to prove that Manny is really the Pound-for-Pound King. Manny's greatness cannot be validated without beating Mayweather.

ArgusP2 01-10-2012 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1526825)
What is "Facebook"? I have never seen it mentioned on MySpace.....
MySpace? Never heard of it. BTW, wanna "friend" me on Friendster?

Ashcan Bill 01-11-2012 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BnBTobacco (Post 1526837)
Same with the millions of boxing fans, I am hoping for this fight to materialize in order to prove that Manny is really the Pound-for-Pound King. Manny's greatness cannot be validated without beating Mayweather.
Couldn't agree more. After Manny's last fight, I'm not so sure I wouldn't bet on Mayweather now. Manny has too many irons in the fire, and doesn't look to me like he has the hunger he once had.

Stephen 01-11-2012 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashcan Bill (Post 1526926)
Couldn't agree more. After Manny's last fight, I'm not so sure I wouldn't bet on Mayweather now. Manny has too many irons in the fire, and doesn't look to me like he has the hunger he once had.
Aww Hell, I feel a music montage coming on...:bx

Noodles 01-13-2012 10:06 AM
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This fight won't happen anytime soon for various reasons.

I predict these two will eventually meet when both are in the twilight of their careers. 2017 fight seems like the possible date.

kydsid 01-13-2012 11:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1526614)
Still hoping this happens, at least Manny gets an opportunity to shut Big Mouth's yapper.

What is "Dido"? Are you missing an "L"? :r


Ditto Tom, get your mind out of the gutter. I know you slept there last night but give it a try. :r

icehog3 01-13-2012 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 1529370)
Ditto Tom, get your mind out of the gutter. I know you slept there last night but give it a try. :r
"Ditto", now I know what that means, Jason. :r

kydsid 01-13-2012 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1529375)
"Ditto", now I know what that means, Jason. :r
Glad I could help, I know you local boys can be a little slow on the uptake compared to us boys on the top. :D

icehog3 01-13-2012 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 1529383)
Glad I could help, I know you local boys can be a little slow on the uptake compared to us boys on the top. :D
Some prefer top of the local pyramid to bottom of the big one, Jason. ;) :r

BnBTobacco 01-17-2012 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashcan Bill (Post 1526926)
Couldn't agree more. After Manny's last fight, I'm not so sure I wouldn't bet on Mayweather now. Manny has too many irons in the fire,and doesn't look to me like he has the hunger he once had.
Hahaha I agree with you on that.

BnBTobacco 01-17-2012 10:31 PM
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To add to that, Manny now has a lot of companies, TV shows and commercials, and he also is a representative in Congress. He has become a billionaire and an inspiration to millions especially his countrymen.

icehog3 01-19-2012 11:26 PM
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Floyd called up Manny directly, and allegedly offered him a 50/50 split for a May 5th fight.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...manny-pacquiao

GreekGodX 01-20-2012 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1535605)
Floyd called up Manny directly, and allegedly offered him a 50/50 split for a May 5th fight.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...manny-pacquiao
Hoping it leads to something.. I cannot imagine how that phone call went down and would have loved to be listening in.

BnBTobacco 01-24-2012 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 1535709)
Hoping it leads to something.. I cannot imagine how that phone call went down and would have loved to be listening in.
Would love to hear how the conversation went as well..

GreekGodX 02-02-2012 03:05 PM
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Mayweather will be fighting Cotto May 5th, not PacMan :td

icehog3 02-02-2012 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 1547547)
Mayweather will be fighting Cotto May 5th, not PacMan :td
Shocking. :rolleyes:

rebelknight 02-02-2012 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1547571)
Shocking. :rolleyes:
Yea can't say I didn't see this coming. The whole thing was handled extremely unprofessionally. I don't know of too many big fights where a guy sets a date, time and venue and just expects the other fighter to completely agree to his terms. If Mayweather really wanted the fight he should have come into contact with Arum and Pacquiao before and tried to work on a real deal not just say this is when I'm fighting and if you want to be a part of it you don't have a choice. If I were Manny I wouldn't have taken the fight either. I really don't feel that his reputation has anything to lose by not fighting Mayweather. Mayweather on the other hand needs that fight to happen to back up all the times he's ran his mouth. I'd love to see this fight happen just as much as anyone but I really can't blame Manny for it not going through up to this point. :2

icehog3 02-02-2012 04:39 PM
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Yup....I am not blaming Manny, and agree with your assessment of how Big Mouth Floyd the Ego handled the whole thing. I am just disappointed that we may never see these two fight in their relative "primes".

Taki 02-02-2012 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1547637)
Yup....I am not blaming Manny, and agree with your assessment of how Big Mouth Floyd the Ego handled the whole thing. I am just disappointed that we may never see these two fight in their relative "primes".
+1 Brother....ridiculous that this fight has gone down yet!! They should have fought so long ago and now they probably won't fight and if they do they will be in wheelchairs racing down the hall!! What a joke

icehog3 05-02-2012 04:50 PM
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http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...nhancing-drugs

I call "bullshit". :2

DBall 05-02-2012 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1629905)
I concur... what crap will he come up with if Pac submits to the random drug testing...?

chippewastud79 05-02-2012 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DBall (Post 1629961)
I concur... what crap will he come up with if Pac submits to the random drug testing...?
I believe, Pacquiao already said he would do a test the week of the fight, just not the night before. :hm

kydsid 05-02-2012 07:57 PM
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I have managed to move three times, get a promotion and engaged in the time this thread has been open. What is the over / under I have a grandkid by the time this fight actually happens?

pnoon 05-02-2012 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 1630052)
I have managed to move three times, get a promotion and engaged in the time this thread has been open. What is the over / under I have a grandkid by the time this fight actually happens?
I have no clue but congrats on your engagement. Ms. Callahan, I presume?

proguy747 05-02-2012 08:09 PM
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Manny looks awful shady for not participating in olympic style drug testing. No matter what his excuse.

kydsid 05-02-2012 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1630058)
I have no clue but congrats on your engagement. Ms. Callahan, I presume?
Your Memory is scary good. Took me a minute just to figure out how you could even know. And yes indeed, thanks.

pnoon 05-02-2012 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 1630072)
Your Memory is scary good. Took me a minute just to figure out how you could even know. And yes indeed, thanks.
:)
Sometimes my memory scares me.

Jasonw560 05-02-2012 08:58 PM
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Mayweather's a punk. I haven't paid for a PPV fight in years, but I'd pay just to see Pretty Boy Floyd get his ass kicked.

rennD 05-05-2012 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1629968)
I believe, Pacquiao already said he would do a test the week of the fight, just not the night before. :hm
I dont understand what you are saying. Does anyone know if these drugs are semi-instant? As in "the night before" type of instant.

chippewastud79 05-05-2012 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rennD (Post 1631590)
I dont understand what you are saying. Does anyone know if these drugs are semi-instant? As in "the night before" type of instant.
One of the reported hang-ups to getting this fight to happen was: Mayweather claimed he wants Pacquiao to submit to a drug test the night before the fight, similar to the testing done throught out the Tour de France for blood doping or other PED's. Pacquiao won't agree to have blood drawn the night before the fight. Blood doping could be a 'night before' remedy, but I am not sure if it would be gone before the night after the fight, when both fighters are drug tested again by boxing's governing body where the fight was fought, I believe. :sh

In my opinion, it is Mayweather's current out to avoid fighting Pacquiao for the time, until he can formulate another excuse. I think his first excuse was the split for the prize money. :rolleyes:

Stephen 05-05-2012 09:45 PM
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As if I needed another reason to dislike Money. Accompanied to the ring by Justin Bieber? Seriously?

chippewastud79 05-06-2012 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1631967)
As if I needed another reason to dislike Money. Accompanied to the ring by Justin Bieber? Seriously?
He also had Triple H and 50 Cent. ;)


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