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s15driftking 09-26-2009 10:32 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Parshooter (Post 568455)
Bobby, I got the cabinet at Bombay Trading Co. They are in a mall near you.

explicate please, i googled it with little result.

gettysburgfreak 09-26-2009 07:42 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
I need a watch winder but don't want to spend 200 bucks for one. Those of you that have one, where did you get yours?

MrOneEyedBoh 09-26-2009 07:47 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Does anyone know anything about wrist watches? I got an Omega from my grandfather and I heard if it has an airplane on the watch face its worth more than a normal one? Basically I was wondering if anyone knew anything about it.

Wolfgang 09-26-2009 08:04 PM

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http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m...8810/watch.jpg

Interesting watch. Dosent get much wear time. I love my Seiko Titanium band

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m...ium-wm-1-1.jpg

longknocker 09-27-2009 10:11 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang (Post 569216)
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m...8810/watch.jpg

Interesting watch. Dosent get much wear time. I love my Seiko Titanium band

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m...ium-wm-1-1.jpg

Love That Seiko, Bro! Beautiful Watch!:tu

Wolfgang 09-27-2009 12:18 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Thank you. its currently in the shop. Needed a new battery and a good cleaning. :D

s15driftking 09-28-2009 11:28 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
a nice informative video!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiCPu0SjEW4

Wolfgang 09-28-2009 12:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by s15driftking (Post 571401)

Aweosme video

RGD. 09-28-2009 12:37 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s15driftking (Post 568663)
explicate please, i googled it with little result.


They may not be in business in your area (or any where for that matter) - the store close to me closed down last year - bankruptcy I believe.


Ron

s15driftking 09-28-2009 12:38 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
website? link?

ade06 09-28-2009 01:00 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
All of the Bombay Trading Company's in my area (D.C., MD, DE and PA) have gone out of business too.

s15driftking 09-28-2009 01:09 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
I'd like to introduce two cool things to those who want to learn about them... the tourbillon and the minute repeater...


Tourbillon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj2Ia0KWxN0


WHAT IS A TOURBILLON
When it comes to time, accuracy is everything. Nobody’s going to take a watchmaker who can’t tick the talk. The gravity of the situation was not lost on the watchmakers of past who realised that the pull of Newton’s forces did have an effect on the performance of their timepieces. In the normal course of use, a watch goes through a variety of positions as your arm swings. This is great for the automatic movement. However, with the pocket watch, it tends to be kept in a vertical position, and we all know how gravity loves to play with that. The result is small changes to the accuracy of the timepiece.

In the beginning
Many may just brush it off as trivial, but others are bothered by it to the extent it’s more than dust in the eye. For instance, back in the 18th century, sailors’ lives depended on the accuracy of their ship’s deck watch or marine chronometer. Ingeniously, it was Abraham-Louis Breguet, ticked off enough about the fact that he was losing time this way, who decided to bridge the problem in 1795 by inventing the régulateur à tourbillon.

The tourbillon (whirlwind) device has the escapement parts in a mobile cage that rotates in one direction, driven by a fixed wheel. This eliminates the effects of gravity on the balance wheel movement, and restores accuracy to the timepiece.

Piece de resistence
The tourbillon, patented by Breguet in 1801, is one of those complications that many watch manufacturers strive to produce as a piece de resistance of their collection. Others wonder why they bother since it doesn’t seem to serve a practical purpose. The main reason for this dissenting perspective is the difficult nature of their creation and the resulting high cost. Extremely precise mechanical tolerances are called into play – not too much weight, nor friction, or the entire system could wind up just looking pretty on your wrist while you seek the time elsewhere.

Marrying art and craft was Constant Girard-Perregaux’s aim as he created the Tourbillon Sous Trois Points d’Or, in 1867. The three-bridge design he invented for his pocket chronometer has been copied since, eventually finding its way onto wrists in 1991.

Mechanical marvels
The difficulty of manufacturing chronometer tourbillons fostered more innovative thinking, and Bahne Bonniksen, a Danish immigrant to England, came up with the karrusel (derived from carrousel). Patented by him in 1892, the karrusel has a movement that rotates at a slower rate than the chronometer tourbillon, but is more robust.

In the 1920s, Alfred Helwig, the Glashutte master watchmaker, invented the flying tourbillon regulator, which is pivot mounted on one side with no supporting bridge.

The arrival of the wristwatch resulted in watchmakers trying to find ways of miniaturising this already complicated movement. In 1930, the tourbillon regulator made its appearance in a wristwatch. Not too many tourbillons are in existence, and the quartz oscillator put an end to these mechanical marvels in the late ’60s. But the rebirth of mechanical watches has seen several companies taking up the miniaturisation process all over again.

Creative Applications
F.P. Journe’s Souverain Tourbillon is one of the more creative applications, while Blancpain seems to focus intensively on using these technical marvels. Omega has a self-winding Central Tourbillon which is produced in limited quantities, and has the movement as the centrepiece, while Patek Philippe swings in the other direction with its Sky Moon Tourbillon which has 12 complications and uses both
sides of the watch.

Whether it’s just a case of one-upmanship or practicality, the tourbillon is still an integral part of watchmaking and still causing a whirlwind of activity.

and........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourbillon

s15driftking 09-28-2009 01:13 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
and the minute repeater....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cB8ftBRJGM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfhma...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9S89...eature=related


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeater_(horology)

http://www.timezone.com/library/rdnotebook/200408292930

ratpack 09-29-2009 06:16 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Just buy one of those little babies they had recently in CA. $32,000 for a watch! That's an everyday wear.

rizzle 09-29-2009 09:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ucubed (Post 568390)
I have the same one gifted to me by my friend's father

I need to find some friends like that.;) I thought I noticed the green bezel on your wrist in a picture posted not too long ago.
:tu

gettysburgfreak 09-29-2009 02:44 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
After I hopefully complete the academy, I am going to buy this as a present

http://www.jorggray.com/jg6500nc-rose.html

longknocker 09-29-2009 04:25 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 573537)
After I hopefully complete the academy, I am going to buy this as a present

http://www.jorggray.com/jg6500nc-rose.html

Nice Looking Watch! You Deserve It!:tu

s15driftking 09-29-2009 06:35 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Breitling ****, just picked it up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...cture009-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...cture003-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...cture021-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...cture022-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...cture025-1.jpg

s15driftking 10-10-2009 07:01 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
a couple more of my watches

Triumph 46mm, ETA movement

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture037.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture035.jpg


Michael Kors, MK8075

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture046.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture043.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture042.jpg

Veritas 10-10-2009 09:49 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
I love watches, but my wallet won't support my habit. My current daily wear is a Tag Aquaracer. I get quite a bit of wear from my Luminox F-16 Series also. Others that spend more time in the box than on my wrist include a Movado Museum Series, a Tiffany, a titanium Seiko chronograph and several Tommy Bahama casuals. The only Rolex in the house is on the wife's wrist; they are too heavy for my taste.

I really like the looks of the Oris in Larry's post. Which collection is that from?

larryinlc 10-10-2009 10:48 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by G.Elrod (Post 593574)

I really like the looks of the Oris in Larry's post. Which collection is that from?

it's an Oris BC3 Big Crown. I bought it new for 450.00 40mm diameter

Larry

Veritas 10-10-2009 11:16 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Thanks. I'm going to look for one of these when I get back to the States.

gettysburgfreak 10-11-2009 07:04 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
I really like the look of this but I'm not so sure about the rubber band, I am a leather band kinda guy

http://www.amazon.com/Bulova-Marine-...=13GP37GAS9LPY

Veritas 10-12-2009 02:44 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
I have three watches with rubber straps - a Tag, a Luminox, and a Lacoste GMT. I like them for different reasons than leather. I don't consider any of these to be dress watches. For that application, leather straps (or metal bracelets) are preferred. For day to day wear, I really like the rubber strap. In fact, I bought my Tag with a stainless bracelet and replaced that with the rubber strap.

I guess they aren't for everyone. I don't like the heavy weight of a Rolex while others do. That's why there are so many watches (like cigars) - so we can all have our favorites.
:ss

BlackDog 10-12-2009 10:35 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Not really a collector, but I do enjoy watches. I wear a Seiko "Pepsi Diver" and an Omega Constellation.

s15driftking 10-12-2009 10:55 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by G.Elrod (Post 595825)
I don't like the heavy weight of a Rolex while others do.

I love heavy bulky watches. Although, there are some that are bulky withotu being heavy (titanium).

gettysburgfreak 10-12-2009 12:25 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
I like heavy watches as well

s15driftking 10-12-2009 02:34 PM

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for those who like clunky-but-not-heavy....

try one fo these:

http://www.bernardwatch.com/Corum/Ad...on-48mm/COR267

TheRiddick 10-14-2009 02:55 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Hate to say it, but this is a fake. Not a Brietling band, the main seconds hand has no Breitling B on the short end of it, bezel is defintely not a typical trademark Breitling style, the knobs are not trademark Breitling flairs, a number of other fake elements...





s15driftking 10-14-2009 04:07 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 599833)
Hate to say it, but this is a fake. Not a Brietling band, the main seconds hand has no Breitling B on the short end of it, bezel is defintely not a typical trademark Breitling style, the knobs are not trademark Breitling flairs, a number of other fake elements...

1. The bracelet (or band as you call it) is a ProII
2. I've never seen the "B" on the main seconds hand of a Breitling super avenger, Only Breitling for Bentley motors watches
3. BEZEL is the correct bezel.... for a Super avenger, are you thinking of the Breitling for bentley 6.75
4. The "knobs" as you called them are technicallly called "pushers" and they are legit, as is the whole watch
5. Please tell me the "number of other fake elements" as you put it.

would you like to see the 4,000 dollar proof of sale from the legit local authorized dealer i bought it from? would that convince you? or do you want to bust my balls some more?

you should do some research and get your facts straight before you tell me that my watch is fake.

TheRiddick 10-14-2009 06:09 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
I wear Breitlings daily for who knows how many years and know every model they sell pretty well. For the record, a while ago when Rolex hired a lawyer to go after fake market, the Rolex he was wearing in the meeting contained a fake band, bought from a reputable Rolex dealer (receipt and all).

Been wearing and buying the likes of Breitling, Chopard, Genta and Zenith way back when USA market didn't even know what they are (back then both Zenith and Genta were "grey" market only).

Not trying to establish my "watch red", if you're convinced the watch is not a fake, no issue on my side, it just looks strange to me.

s15driftking 10-14-2009 07:14 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 600150)
I wear Breitlings daily for who knows how many years and know every model they sell pretty well..


Apparently not well enough....

s15driftking 10-18-2009 01:30 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Let's get this thread rocking again! I know there are more of you that like nice timepieces!!

Thrak 10-18-2009 01:55 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
I have quite a few watches

A few of my favs are

1) Helix 'Wings' dive watch, black on black
2) Invicta 4847/2 Pro Diver automatic with 21-jewel miyota movement
3) Seiko pilots watch from early 90's (16th bday gift :) )
4) Movado two-tone museum
5) Citizen limited edition calibre 3100 (#986 of 999)
6) Tag Heuer 6000S/EL limited black face with black chrono dials, on e stainless band

Many more that I have in their boxes. ;) I like watches heh... considering picking up a bulova thats a GREAT deal http://www.pennywise.biz/ ... love the moveable interior dial.

s15driftking 10-18-2009 02:23 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrak (Post 605856)

Many more that I have in their boxes. ;) I like watches heh... considering picking up a bulova thats a GREAT deal http://www.pennywise.biz/ ... love the moveable interior dial.

where does it say that the interior dial is moveable?

Thrak 10-18-2009 02:27 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
thats what the guarded crown on the left is for, you can turn the interior dial for calculations on the slide rule

the white ring turns as you turn the left crown

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018AJNI6

look at the zoomed in pics there

s15driftking 10-18-2009 02:34 PM

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i see. thats cool as a "fun" point, but i'd probably never use it. Nice watch none-the-less although it is quartz.

Thrak 10-18-2009 02:41 PM

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whats wrong with quartz?

mosesbotbol 10-19-2009 06:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrak (Post 605907)
whats wrong with quartz?

Nothing really. They are more acurate. There are a few quartz watches that are very sought after:

IWC Flieger Quartz
Rolex Oyster Quartz
any JLC Quartz
Omega X/33

We use many of workshops that create the fanciest watch brand parts out there. In Biel, everything and everyone is watch manufacturing business. Sounds fancy, but it is not, they are manufacturies and machine shops.

Part of a watch's allure is from their distribution and marketing which makes the same watch as someone else seem more esteemed or something. There's a lot of marketing BS when it comes to major brands of watches. They turn them out like nothing. Rolex, Omega, Breitling... they make 800K+ watches a year... How much hand finishing do you think really goes into them?

Here's a picture of Rolex leaving the driveway of one of the shops we use...

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...l/photo-53.jpg

mosesbotbol 10-19-2009 07:05 AM

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One thing you might want to consider if you have a lot of watches is to PVD coat it. I think we can do most watches for around 500 CHF. It looks pretty cool and if you have a sporty Rolex will set it apart from the rest.

Thrak 10-19-2009 03:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 606724)
Nothing really. They are more acurate.

Oh I agree totally, I have a Zodiac quartz that is the most accurate watch I've ever owned... it literally gains about 3 seconds over 9-10months lol. Incredible. My Invicta with the Miyota movement is still gaining 5-8 seconds a day, but its only a couple months old.

I was just asking because of the way driftking said "although it is quartz", as if there is something wrong with quartz.

I think most people would be really surprised to learn who actually makes the movements in certain brands, and what other brands share the EXACT same parts....

Thrak 10-21-2009 08:25 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s15driftking (Post 561201)
mission accomplished! Breitling Super Avenger!

http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs268...._6540576_n.jpg

Just wondering, what year is this super avenger?

s15driftking 10-22-2009 10:54 AM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
2009

wayner123 10-22-2009 12:40 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Parshooter (Post 567352)
BE CAREFUL. You can slide down the slope just as fast as with cigars :D

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...7/cases006.jpg

OH MY!! :dr:dr

TWO Daytona's!! That's nuts man.

Watches are my second hobby. I even make straps for various ones. My favorite (right now) everyday wearer is the Omega Planet Ocean.

eber 10-22-2009 02:00 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
I really love watches but just can't afford much right now, the only watch I have of note is a ESQ Swiss Chronograph. I will post a picture later tonight or tomorow

Darrell 10-22-2009 02:04 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s15driftking (Post 599947)
1. The bracelet (or band as you call it) is a ProII
2. I've never seen the "B" on the main seconds hand of a Breitling super avenger, Only Breitling for Bentley motors watches
3. BEZEL is the correct bezel.... for a Super avenger, are you thinking of the Breitling for bentley 6.75
4. The "knobs" as you called them are technicallly called "pushers" and they are legit, as is the whole watch
5. Please tell me the "number of other fake elements" as you put it.

would you like to see the 4,000 dollar proof of sale from the legit local authorized dealer i bought it from? would that convince you? or do you want to bust my balls some more?

you should do some research and get your facts straight before you tell me that my watch is fake.

Wow. Way to show your ass, Bobby.

Greg is not going to blow smoke up your ass. It may do you some good to listen to him rather than getting your panties in a bunch and throwing a tantrum. Greg has been in this game probably longer than we have been alive.

:2

Thrak 10-22-2009 02:13 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s15driftking (Post 612361)
2009

The face and chrono locations dont match the pics on Breitlings site. :confused:

I'm not saying its a fake, cuz I'm not versed enough to know, but its pretty obvious that its different than whats on the site.

It does however, look exactly like this one

http://watchwoot.com/magento/index.p...hite-dial.html

bobarian 10-22-2009 02:36 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrak (Post 612652)
The face and chrono locations dont match the pics on Breitlings site. :confused:

I'm not saying its a fake, cuz I'm not versed enough to know, but its pretty obvious that its different than whats on the site.

It does however, look exactly like this one

http://watchwoot.com/magento/index.p...hite-dial.html

:tpd: Its not even close. http://www.breitling.com/en/#/models...avenger-faces/

But I'm not a watch guy so what do I know. :2

stevieray 10-22-2009 02:39 PM

Re: Wristwatch collectors out there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrak (Post 612652)
The face and chrono locations dont match the pics on Breitlings site. :confused:

I'm not saying its a fake, cuz I'm not versed enough to know, but its pretty obvious that its different than whats on the site.

It does however, look exactly like this one

http://watchwoot.com/magento/index.p...hite-dial.html

What jumps out at me is the placement of the "8" and "10" on the dial, i.e. not enough cut away from the numbers. By no means am I a Breitling expert...but the dial doesn't look right to me.

MikeyC 10-22-2009 02:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 612692)
:tpd: Its not even close. http://www.breitling.com/en/#/models...avenger-faces/

But I'm not a watch guy so what do I know. :2

It's clearly not the same face as pictured on the Breitling website, but if you look at the website the Super Avenger is listed as having a new face for 2009. Maybe the watch pictured is an '08?


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