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coastietech 09-22-2009 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 561981)
Sorry Joe, but I think you are not giving this team the respect they deserve. First two games they certainly did not look too good. However, there is a reason they play 16 games and the season is not decided after the first two games.

I give them the respect that they were a great team. They aren't the same team this year. That's a fact. You don't have Bruschi, Vrabel or many others. You defense is a shell of what it was in previous years that's a fact.

Brady is a great QB but only when he's in the pocket. He is a pocket passer and crumbles on the scramble. That is a fact. Look at the numbers.

Teams change sometimes for the better and sometimes for the worst, unfortunately for the Pats fans the Pats lost a great deal of solid players.

2000ARMY 09-22-2009 08:54 AM

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Talk to me in December... NE will win the division.

icantbejon 09-22-2009 09:02 AM

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It will be interesting to see. I don't think the AFC East is the strong division that it was in the past. I think it will be a tight race within the division, but I remember the glory days of the East where we always sent two to the Playoffs and could have gotten away sending three. Remember when the Dolphins and Bills were actually competitive? And Bledsoe was throwing for you guys? Those were the days for the East.

Gargoyle 09-22-2009 10:25 AM

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Let's not forget that even though the Patriots D lost 5 starters from last year and Mayo is out 6-8 weeks... they held the Bills offense to 17 points and the Jets to 16. That is pretty respectable and the new faces on D will improve and improve their communications with each game.

We expect better things on the O side. It will take Brady a few more games to get his timing back and to work out the chemistry with the new players. You had a rookie QB starting a WR and Galloway is still learning the offense. Things will improve with some more games here as well.

Resipsa 09-22-2009 11:01 AM

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Stick a fork in them.

I called this a couple of years ago, an old, fat slow defense just kept getting older, fatter and slower. Belechik sealed their fate this year by trading one of the only capable playmakers on D, Seymore, to the NFL equivalent of Siberia. Not sure what he did to piss Mr. Ego off, but I'd love to hear the story which I'm sure we will eventually

dogface_313 09-22-2009 12:48 PM

Re: Patriots Football - "We're on a mission"
 
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Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 562264)
Stick a fork in them.

I called this a couple of years ago, an old, fat slow defense just kept getting older, fatter and slower. Belechik sealed their fate this year by trading one of the only capable playmakers on D, Seymore, to the NFL equivalent of Siberia. Not sure what he did to piss Mr. Ego off, but I'd love to hear the story which I'm sure we will eventually


So, they have lost one game and they are done?

I can't wait untill next week when Tom Brady turns it around and takes a dump on the Falcons(too bad, I really like Matt Ryan, him being a BC grad). I understand that there are a TON of Patriots haters out there, but it is one thing to hate them, and a completely seperate thing to think that they are a garbage team. They will have atleast 12 wins this year, quote me on that!

coastietech 09-22-2009 01:34 PM

Re: Patriots Football - "We're on a mission"
 
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Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 562451)
So, they have lost one game and they are done?

I can't wait untill next week when Tom Brady turns it around and takes a dump on the Falcons(too bad, I really like Matt Ryan, him being a BC grad). I understand that there are a TON of Patriots haters out there, but it is one thing to hate them, and a completely seperate thing to think that they are a garbage team. They will have atleast 12 wins this year, quote me on that!

:hm Sounds like a bet in the making to me... :r

icehog3 09-22-2009 01:38 PM

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Simmer down now. :r

The Poet 09-22-2009 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 562577)
Simmer down now. :r

Masshole fans, regardless of the sport, and "simmer down" do NOT go together, my friend. :ss

dogface_313 09-22-2009 02:41 PM

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I tend to get heated over my sports teams. The hatred towards the Patriots has grown exponentially over the past few years. People like to claim it is because of the taping episode, but I would venture to say it has more to do with the fact that people hate a winner. I was raised on NE sports teams that were jokes, but they were our jokes. Now that they are legit teams I often get defensive about them.

I think I need sports fan counseling. "Hi, I'm Ryan, and I am a CeltiRedBruPat fanatic."

Gargoyle 09-22-2009 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 562711)
I tend to get heated over my sports teams. The hatred towards the Patriots has grown exponentially over the past few years. People like to claim it is because of the taping episode, but I would venture to say it has more to do with the fact that people hate a winner. I was raised on NE sports teams that were jokes, but they were our jokes. Now that they are legit teams I often get defensive about them.

I think I need sports fan counseling. "Hi, I'm Ryan, and I am a CeltiRedBruPat fanatic."

No kidding! I remember suffering on the freezing aluminum benches many years ago when the "Patsies" were getting nuked 45-3 by the Falcons. Then the balance of power shifts and people get pissed that we are percieved to run up the score... I remember this game and want more blood!

I enjoy the moment now, because as we have seen with the Bruins and Celtics a few years ago, things can fall apart and you are bottom dwellers quickly.

VTDragon 09-22-2009 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 561134)
The way I seen it it was a bad offensive game for the Pats, and Jets treated it like their Super Bowl.
Congrats to the Jets for the win, but I think the outcome will be a little different come November 22....

Yes, :tpd:this game was MUCH bigger to the Jets than the Patriots. It kind of reminded me of the years following a Super Bowl win when every team the Pats faced had them as the biggest game on the schedule. Having said that, there really was no excuse for the poor offensive performance they put in. They better wake up against the Falcons or things will not be looking good.

The Poet 09-22-2009 03:21 PM

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Speaking of Superbowl wins, two words - David Tyree. :jd


Sorry, couldn't resist that. :ss

RJK18 09-22-2009 03:30 PM

Re: Patriots Football - "We're on a mission"
 
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Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 562711)
I tend to get heated over my sports teams. The hatred towards the Patriots has grown exponentially over the past few years. People like to claim it is because of the taping episode, but I would venture to say it has more to do with the fact that people hate a winner. I was raised on NE sports teams that were jokes, but they were our jokes. Now that they are legit teams I often get defensive about them.

I think I need sports fan counseling. "Hi, I'm Ryan, and I am a CeltiRedBruPat fanatic."

I think the hatred comes from that @-hole coach. Wow what a jerk. He doesn't even show mutual respect for an opposing coach and player coming to shake his hand after a game.

coastietech 09-22-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RJK18 (Post 562769)
I think the hatred comes from that @-hole coach. Wow what a jerk. He doesn't even show mutual respect for an opposing coach and player coming to shake his hand after a game.

:tpd:

That is the main reason for my dislike, I'm mean other than the bad blood rivalry that the teams have. :r

dogface_313 09-22-2009 04:45 PM

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Joe and Rob, like I said before everybody hates a winner. :hf

I can't wait to see the Pats play next week. It is going to be like a Prize fighter that has tasted his own blood for a first time in a long time. They are going to come out in the first half like Mike Tyson answering the opening bell!

icehog3 09-22-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 562868)
Joe and Rob, like I said before everybody hates a winner. :hf

I can't wait to see the Pats play next week. It is going to be like a Prize fighter that has tasted his own blood for a first time in a long time. They are going to come out in the first half like Mike Tyson answering the opening bell!

They're going to bite someone's ear off? :confused:

dogface_313 09-22-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 562875)
They're going to bite someone's ear off? :confused:

Maybe, I hope not because then they will be called cheaters again.

I have a question for all.

Who really thinks that their beloved team, whomever they may be, is not doing something the league may frown upon. I am willing to venture that every team in the NFL is doing something to gain an edge.

icehog3 09-22-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 562960)
Maybe, I hope not because then they will be called cheaters again.

I have a question for all.

Who really thinks that their beloved team, whomever they may be, is not doing something the league may frown upon. I am willing to venture that every team in the NFL is doing something to gain an edge.

The Bears need to take some lessons then. :r

dogface_313 09-22-2009 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 562965)
The Bears need to take some lessons then. :r

lol i didn't say they were cheating to win, simply that they were all probably doing something. even cheating can't make up for a lack of talent!

TheTraveler 09-22-2009 05:43 PM

Re: Patriots Football - "We're on a mission"
 
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Originally Posted by Gargoyle (Post 562728)
Then the balance of power shifts and people get pissed that we are percieved to run up the score... I remember this game and want more blood!

I say show no mercy in ANY sport. It's a field of play/combat/glory, not a place to play pat-a-cake. :r

Seriously, though, I think running up a score is the only way to play. If you're not going to give it 100% don't step on the field. Besides, a lot of players in the last 1/3 of their careers depend on the stats they've built and the reputation they've earned. Hitting cruise at the end of blow-out games could cost them a couple of hits/20 more yards/another 5 baskets/etc, and over a couple of years that makes a difference in their stats.

On the flip side - I realize that with the physicality of these games it's possible a player may get a terrible injury by NOT slowing down at the end of a blow-out game. You take your chances either way ... I say go down fighting.

/threadjack Sorry about that. :)

Back on topic, I root for the Pats any time they play unless they happen to play the Steelers or the Bears or the Browns - those are the teams I really root for. I've always been a fan of most things NE - football, furniture and maple syrup top the list. After all, you guys pretty much fathered this nation's rebellion against the jolly old Brits. :D (nothing against the Brits, you guys make FANTASTIC pipe tobacco and Pusser's Rum is out of this world! :r ).

Geez, am I rambling? Where are my meds? Oh, there's that cigar ... good, I can calm down now.

One final note ... I've never seen a hockey game hit cruise control. Those guys are fighters! :tu

GO PATS !!! (unless you're playing my teams)

Resipsa 09-22-2009 05:45 PM

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there's a difference between hating a team (hey I hate the Jets, see how easy that is) and just thinking a team is on the decline and not very good anymore.

Just because people don't worship at your altar doesn't make them haters.

Resipsa 09-22-2009 06:58 PM

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Apparantly Im not alone......

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/1...ime-has-passed

dogface_313 09-22-2009 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 563162)

article written by a hater! lol

dogface_313 09-22-2009 07:02 PM

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I'm done talking, I want Sunday to come now!

2000ARMY 09-22-2009 07:05 PM

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like I said .... lets have this conversation in December.

Genetic Defect 09-22-2009 11:34 PM

Re: Patriots Football - "We're on a mission"
 
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Originally Posted by 2000ARMY (Post 563181)
like I said .... lets have this conversation in December.

is it going to take that long for them to win again?

colimo 09-22-2009 11:43 PM

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unfortunately for you Pats fans, your team will come here in 3 weeks to play a replay of one of the original old AFL games, as a matter of fact the first one played by both teams....

and unfortunately for you, the result will be the same 50 years later....

BRONCOS WIN :ss:tu
:su

coastietech 09-23-2009 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Vito (Post 563531)
is it going to take that long for them to win again?

This guy wins the interweb!! Bwhahahahahaha!!!:banger

macpappy 09-23-2009 07:58 AM

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I'm looking forward to Nov. 30. Could be a high scoring game.

VTDragon 09-23-2009 09:13 AM

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All of the preceding posts just reaffirm what I have long thought about sports. It is the best entertainment available. I truly love cheering my New England teams on and obviously many of you do the same for your teams. None of us win all the time and many arguments can be made as to which team or coach is better and why, but in the end it sure is fun to cheer them on. Go Pats!

dogface_313 09-28-2009 07:17 PM

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well, they did win yesterday. But, the receivers need to hold onto the damn ball!

VTDragon 09-29-2009 10:15 AM

Re: Patriots Football - "We're on a mission"
 
I wonder if Bill is regretting the Joel Galloway deal now. Let's trade him to Oakland for another draft pick before Al Davis keels over and we can't take advantage of him anymore.

Resipsa 09-29-2009 12:00 PM

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they still stink.

dunng 09-29-2009 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 573192)
they still stink.

Thank you for the insightful post... :tg

Resipsa 09-29-2009 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dunng (Post 573243)
Thank you for the insightful post... :tg

True my post was not insightful at all.

The sports world already KNEW they stink. :r

dogface_313 09-29-2009 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 573671)
True my post was not insightful at all.

The sports world already KNEW they stink. :r

Football season is a marathon, not a sprint

Resipsa 09-29-2009 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 574134)
Football season is a marathon, not a sprint

dude. I know a thing or two about marathons, :r

dogface_313 09-30-2009 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 574144)
dude. I know a thing or two about marathons, :r

Well it seems you might want to stick to marathons, leave the football to the big boys. (what is your team by the way?) :hf

on an unrelated note. Wilhite pulled his groin running from someone following him?

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl...ory?id=4516186

Resipsa 09-30-2009 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 574520)
Well it seems you might want to stick to marathons, leave the football to the big boys. (what is your team by the way?) :hf

on an unrelated note. Wilhite pulled his groin running from someone following him?

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl...ory?id=4516186

Just a tip. There are members in this thread who have bantered about football and the Patises long before this board existed, and maybe, just maybe, you don't understand some of the dynamics. :).

Tom Brady is the most overrated QB in the history of the league, and is showing it. :r

taltos 10-01-2009 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 574847)
Just a tip. There are members in this thread who have bantered about football and the Patises long before this board existed, and maybe, just maybe, you don't understand some of the dynamics. :).

Tom Brady is the most overrated QB in the history of the league, and is showing it. :r

Would still take Brady over the Forehead.:fu

dogface_313 10-01-2009 05:37 AM

Re: Patriots Football - "We're on a mission"
 
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Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 574847)
Just a tip. There are members in this thread who have bantered about football and the Patises long before this board existed, and maybe, just maybe, you don't understand some of the dynamics. :).

Tom Brady is the most overrated QB in the history of the league, and is showing it. :r

FAIL on that statement. Saying the Patriots are hurting this year is one thing, but that statement is straight up wrong.

Patiots by two touchdowns over the Ravens defense this weekend. Brady throws for three. Two to Moss, Galloway finally catches a ball for one.

Resipsa 10-01-2009 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by taltos (Post 576802)
Would still take Brady over the Forehead.:fu

Paul!!!

Good to see you.

Yes, the forehead has been playing terribly, :r


Always said the Tom "The Baby" Bradys success had everything to do with the Pats D and little to do with him, he's nothing more than a game manager, NOT a QB. More Chad Pennington than Johnny U. Cassel's success last year proved my point, put a monkey in NE as QB and you'd see no change, :D

Now we're seeing how bad he plays without that D. Shame. No really :r

dogface_313 10-01-2009 10:36 AM

Re: Patriots Football - "We're on a mission"
 
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Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 577043)
Paul!!!

Good to see you.

Yes, the forehead has been playing terribly, :r


Always said the Tom "The Baby" Bradys success had everything to do with the Pats D and little to do with him, he's nothing more than a game manager, NOT a QB. More Chad Pennington than Johnny U. Cassel's success last year proved my point, put a monkey in NE as QB and you'd see no change, :D

Now we're seeing how bad he plays without that D. Shame. No really :r

A game manager that holds the single season passing touchdown record, enough said.

I am actually not going to argue this point anymore, this is a silly discussion.

VTDragon 10-01-2009 02:28 PM

Re: Patriots Football - "We're on a mission"
 
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Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 573671)
...The sports world already KNEW they stink. :r

I guess that's why Sports Illustrated picked them to win the Super Bowl.

Resipsa 10-01-2009 05:53 PM

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Dude. You're showing your age, Sports Illustrated hasn't been relevant in the sports world for a very long Time. Unless swimsuits are
considered a sport :D

TheTraveler 10-01-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 578074)
Dude. You're showing your age, Sports Illustrated hasn't been relevant in the sports world for a very long Time. Unless swimsuits are
considered a sport :D

They most certainly are! They're a spectator sport. :D

As for the Pats, I almost always root for them. I certainly hope they win most of their games ... that would be a hoot! :tu

Mikey202 10-04-2009 08:04 PM

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Brady just got call out by his old teammate, " Take off the skirt, and put on some slacks, BE A MAN!!!" Classic!!!! HAHA!!!!:D

timo 10-04-2009 08:33 PM

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http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...seau_to_1.html

Yeah baby!:)

Resipsa 10-04-2009 08:41 PM

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And the old, slow and fat just keep getting older, slower and fatter, :r:r:r


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