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NCRadioMan 06-18-2009 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruzee (Post 430224)
*****UPDATE*****

Roger Goodell hands down an indefinate suspension and some very harsh words for Stallworth. Good for you NFL! :tu Here is the story:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4270311

Goodell takes no chit. I like him. I don't think Stallworth will play a down in the upcoming season. I hope not anyway.

icehog3 06-18-2009 06:17 PM

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Glad the NFL took action after the courts failed to.

Bruzee 06-18-2009 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 430404)
Glad the NFL took action after the courts failed to.

Yeah, I agree. It is nice to see that they somewhat care about what people would think if they allowed him to play right now. Good move by the NFL. :tu

Mr. Ed 06-18-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruzee (Post 428808)
Funny you bring that up. That is another reason why this is crazy. Vick did something horrible...... to animals. He did more time than Stallworth will ever do!

I believe Vick also obstructed the investigation and lied. Is that so much worse than calling 911 after killing someone while DUI?

I don't know.

I think money is a big factor. :2

Bruzee 06-18-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Ed (Post 430605)
I believe Vick also obstructed the investigation and lied. Is that so much worse than calling 911 after killing someone while DUI?

I don't know.

I think money is a big factor. :2

That really is comparing apples and oranges friend. I could care less if he called 911 and waited for police. Thats what he is required to do when in an accident. I don't give him and extra credit for doing what is required of him. But, I totally agree with you about the money aspect. You get the justice you can afford.

Mr. Ed 06-18-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruzee (Post 430615)
That really is comparing apples and oranges friend. I could care less if he called 911 and waited for police. Thats what he is required to do when in an accident. I don't give him and extra credit for doing what is required of him. But, I totally agree with you about the money aspect. You get the justice you can afford.

That's the point, Vick did not do what was required of him, hence the greater amount of jail time.

Dislclaimer: I am neither a lawyer nor am I familiar with the Federal statuets against dog fighting or anything else Vick was charged with,

Bruzee 06-18-2009 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Ed (Post 430636)
That's the point, Vick did not do what was required of him, hence the greater amount of jail time.

Dislclaimer: I am neither a lawyer nor am I familiar with the Federal statuets against dog fighting or anything else Vick was charged with,

Yeah. I see your point. :tu I am also not an expert of any kind, and esspecially not on federal laws.

DrDubzz 06-18-2009 10:11 PM

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didn't Stallworth also get 2 years of house arrest, lifetime probation and a slew of other penalties along with his jail time?

I believe he's also paying out the ass to the family

not that all that makes it ok, but I think that's why the jail time is so short

Bruzee 06-18-2009 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RX2010 (Post 430651)
didn't Stallworth also get 2 years of house arrest, lifetime probation and a slew of other penalties along with his jail time?

I believe he's also paying out the ass to the family

not that all that makes it ok, but I think that's why the jail time is so short

Yeah, I see that point too. But, house arrest? Come on man. I cannot agree with the civil payment being a part of it. Because I cannot afford to pay millions to avoid jail. Is that fair? If I kill someone while driving drunk, I can't pay the family, and you can bet your ass I'll be sitting in a prison cell for more than 24 days.

kgoings 06-18-2009 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Ed (Post 430636)
That's the point, Vick did not do what was required of him, hence the greater amount of jail time.

Dislclaimer: I am neither a lawyer nor am I familiar with the Federal statuets against dog fighting or anything else Vick was charged with,


Vick also tortured and killed innocent animals. Albeit a far cry from killing a person, Vick was intentional and showed NO remorse.

Donte, probably got off easy.

Tobi, yea being in the military is a completely different world.

Cops, lawyers, judges, and polititions all get away with crap that no one else can...cause they run the system.

In the line of duty or not, he may not have done something "criminal" but last time I check running a light or stop sign is a moving violation. If I did that I would defiantly be looking at jail time. If it was not important enough for him to have his siren and lights on, then he shouldn't have been running lights and stop signs. He should have done time period.

Another case in point, here in AZ a detective left his dog officer in the car during the summer and killed him. Nothing nada. He was 'stressed' because of the job. Two months later a lady does the same thing, she was stressed too, she served time. Double Standard.

shilala 06-18-2009 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruzee (Post 430655)
Yeah, I see that point too. But, house arrest? Come on man. I cannot agree with the civil payment being a part of it. Because I cannot afford to pay millions to avoid jail. Is that fair? If I kill someone while driving drunk, I can't pay the family, and you can bet your ass I'll be sitting in a prison cell for more than 24 days.

I did read that one of the penalties is that he NEVER gets to drive again.
2 years house arrest, and I think probation was 7 years.
I have no idea what kind of money he shelled out, but there is merit to calling the police and standing against the charges.
He's clearly remorseful, as well.
So far as Goodell's actions, it's all about the money. Stallworth plays, the league takes flack and loses money. I wonder if he's called the family and expressed his heartfelt remorse. I sure wouldn't bank on it.

skullnrose 06-18-2009 10:29 PM

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For what it's worth what M Vick did was a federal offense in his case he was not just dealing with a state court. I'm glad the NFL took a stand on Stallworth I just hope they make it stick.

Bruzee 06-18-2009 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 430670)
I did read that one of the penalties is that he NEVER gets to drive again.
2 years house arrest, and I think probation was 7 years.
I have no idea what kind of money he shelled out, but there is merit to calling the police and standing against the charges.
He's clearly remorseful, as well.
So far as Goodell's actions, it's all about the money. Stallworth plays, the league takes flack and loses money. I wonder if he's called the family and expressed his heartfelt remorse. I sure wouldn't bank on it.

He can have a restricted driver's license after 5 years guys. House arrest is a joke, considering he can leave for work and such. Merit for calling police and cooperating? Yes and he shall be rewarded for that by not being charged with addition crimes. Like hit and run, or obstructing justice, or failure to report an accident. I'm sorry I don't have more compassion for his cooperation. I guess its my "cop" attitude.

kgoings 06-18-2009 10:41 PM

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Oh yea I almost forgot, in Arizona during the act of a misdemeanor if some dies due to the act, it is a felony. The officer in question should have done time

Bruzee 06-18-2009 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kgoings (Post 430682)
Oh yea I almost forgot, in Arizona during the act of a misdemeanor if some dies due to the act, it is a felony. The officer in question should have done time

Are you talking about the trooper that ran the stop sign without lights and siren? That would be an infraction, at best. And if you still believe he should have done time, even after reading all the arguements against it, then we will have to agree to disagree. :D

kgoings 06-18-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruzee (Post 430685)
Are you talking about the trooper that ran the stop sign without lights and siren? That would be an infraction, at best. And if you still believe he should have done time, even after reading all the arguements against it, then we will have to agree to disagree. :D

He was going 70 in a 35, pursuing someone speeding. That is reckless, that fast in a residential area, (assumption considering the speed limit and stop sigh) he should have had his lights on....to catch some speeding is not that important to put other civilians in more harms way by being reckless in the pursuit.

I am done. We can agree to disagree.

Bruzee 06-18-2009 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kgoings (Post 430690)
He was going 70 in a 35, pursuing someone speeding. That is reckless, that fast in a residential area, (assumption considering the speed limit and stop sigh) he should have had his lights on....to catch some speeding is not that important to put other civilians in more harms way by being reckless in the pursuit.

I am done. We can agree to disagree.

I have never said that it wasn't smart. I would agree that it was a stupid decision to pursue the speeder at that speed and without proper emergency equipment. I don't know all the facts of the case, and I am sure you do not either, but you cannot say that he wasn't doing something important. A jury of 12, whom had ALL the facts, agreed that he should not be criminally responsible for what happened. Neither of us can argue with that fact. I have trouble with people, whom have never put on a badge, assume they know how hard the job is or isn't. No other profession, minus the president, takes as much criticizm or second guessing than law enforcement. I could argue till I'm blue in the face about the importance of traffic enforcement and what other serious crimes it uncovers and leads to, but this is not the time for that.

***Notice. This is not a thread about the peace officers! But about a drunk driver killing a man, and pleading to 30 days in jail.***


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