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Ken,

It's definitely a glitch in my macbook, maybe with safari 4 beta. It does it for any app in my webmail. I haven't downloaded in safari 4 yet, so who knows.

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Thanks for the ideas. I've been toying with jumping from the app to web related information, based on currently selected cigar. I like your ideas, and they aren't as difficult to implement as I once thought.

We'll see how much interest there is in version 1 before I get too far ahead of myself though ;)

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are you using Yahoo web mail? If so, perhaps you could try firefox to see if that resolves it. Installing firefox on a macbook is very straightforward and non-intrusive.

Everybody else seems to be able to download and install the app, so I think it's on your end, sorry to say.

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I don't have an iphone currently, but this app is very cool Ken. Thanks for taking the time to make it :tu

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Ken,
First I gotta say this app rocks! I have added the Padron 40's and 80's under the padron 1926 section, worked great. I have had it crash a couple times, however I can never seem to reproduce it. Once, while adding a new cigar to a humidor, and the second time while editing the quantity before selecting the humidor. This said I have done this over 50 times while adding additional cigars/humidors and not reproduced it. One thought while in the add cigar page, is it possible to modify all settings, humidor, quantity, etc without saving each time, and just doing one final save? Finally the Rocky Patel list is very slim, missing the edge, 1990,92 etc. I know this is minor just updating. At any rate, I can't wait for my next B&M trip with this which brings up one last thing. When adding cigars to your humidor, or wish list maybe a msrp field would be good so you know when shopping around what prices are and what the msrp is? A price paid may also be nice to track cc and non cc alike as prices flucuate between stores? Thanks again, this app is great!

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Got one more, Would be nice when editing the humidor list or wish list if you could actually edit the names, etc seems currently you can only delete when selecting edit.

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Ok, sorry one more. From cigar reference, you can add a cigar, click brand, scroll through and add the pertinent information. My suggestion would be to allow this from inside the cigar brand, IE if I go into Rocky Patel, see that the Edge is missing, it would be nice to add it from that screen, rather then backing out. Currently the edit only allows deleting of existing cigars.

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The good news is that the crashing behavior you describe is consistent with what I already knew about, and is fixed for the next beta release.

Also, regarding the "modify all settings, humidor, quantity, etc without saving each time, and just doing one final save" question, that is also already done for adding new cigars to your humidor. However, when editing a cigar that is already in the humidor, then each field will save independently (likely will be far fewer fields being changed). So, I think I have this one covered as well for beta 2.

The bad news is that you've added a lot of cigars to your personal database, but (during the beta process), those will be overwritten by the new beta code. I need to get those added to the default database as well.

I'll PM you with an idea of how I can get the data from your iPhone to leverage the work you've already done...

Finally, the price suggestion sounds good, but I'm wondering if you have specific ideas of where it should be implemented? I fear this could be complex to populate, but maybe just provide a place if the user wants to add pricing?

Thanks for the testing!!

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believe it or not, this might be a little compicated to code. One workaround in the meantime is to add a new humidor with the new name, then "delete" the existing humidor, and you'll be offered the chance to move the existing cigars to another humidor. Select the newly added one, and you'll have essentially renamed your humidor. Can you test that for me?

Thanks

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This is the one that my son consistently tells me too. I need to figure out where to put the "Add" button on that screen. The edit button is already in the most obvious spot. I'll look into it though, as I agree it would be good to have it there.

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You are doing the lords work Ken!

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Ken,

Still working very well. No crashed today. I added some more cigars to the list, and have the process to get you my updated list. I hope to have it later tonight or tomorrow morning. Last, I added Solomon under shape.

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Props to promethius for some awesome testing and input. :tu Any BOTL's that end up with this app on their iPhone or iPod Touch will benefit from his input on this. Much appreciated.

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ok, I'm about ready to build and release a 2nd beta version of Mobile Stogie, based on input from first round of tests.

Since a few of the testers were unable to make time to provide feedback, I'd like to open this round up for 3 more testers.

If you are interested, and:

1. Can honestly spend some time with the app and provide feedback over the next few days
2. Can respond quickly to requests for needed info about your iPhone or iPod Touch, so I can setup the app to install for you.
3. Want to make the app better for the rest of the BOTL's

Please post back in this thread, and I'll add 3 more testers to the next round.

Again, I'm looking to finalize the app and send it to Apple by mid/end of next week, so quick turnaround on feedback is important. If you honestly can't make the time over the next few days, then please wait for the public release.

Thanks in advance for your help!

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I would be glad to help as I have an iphone I'm addicted too.

1.BigBruce

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dont have an iphone yet....but man if you get it out to the store i'm going to promote the hell out of it through all the geek review feeds I subscribe too. You gotta get a design going for your iphone app icon...since I don't have an iphone I can't see what you are using!

Also...more suggestion...

Allow a field to let you add notes to 'review' your own cigar for your inventory.

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Yep, that would be very cool.

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Well. I guess I should apologize for dropping the ball. I had the computer issue, and then when I got that resolved, itunes wouldn't load the file onto my phone and would give me the "this file was not transferred to XXX because it cannot be played on this device" message.

I guess I also didn't realize the timeline you were working with.

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I have an iPod Touch and willing to help out, I will have a lot of time over the next few days to use it.

1.BigBruce
2. Sr Mike

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1. BigBruce
2. Sr Mike
3. King James

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Ken,
Unfortunately, I came down with that 72 hour bug that has me hacking and trying to coughing a lung out.

But, I've been adding and deleting cigars to the current database since I've been sitting at home.

You've apparently gotten the first thing I found fixed, which was the "forced capital" on the keyboard... most iPhone apps do this so it's a distraction to try and go back on each entry. :tu

There are a number of sticks that aren't listed that I have in my humidor, especially Gurkhas, RP's and Macanudos in the NC section. I have about 150 sticks in there now, and when I get to work, I'll add some more from my work humidor.

I have only had the app crash twice in all the time I've been using it. Everyone who sees it has really liked it; I did attend a herf last night, even sick, and a number of BOTLs who saw it mentioned that maybe it was time to get an iPhone or iTouch! :D

I'm still working with the app, but other the couple of things I mentioned, I haven't had a lot to report.

Be back with more data soon....

:dance:

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Anyway, I got the issues sorted out and so far I've seen a few items left out of the reference cigars.

The Fuente Maduros aren't listed. These include several of their regular lines, but the only wrappers listed are the cameroons (and sun growns listed separately). CAO and Don Pepin are missing several lines as well. La Flor as well.

Also, some cigars don't have a size option, ie La Aurora 100 Anos.

It seems adding a cigar is cumbersome. For instance, when you add a cigar, it asks to a humidor or a wishlist. This is fine. The next screen to add it to the humidor is the cumbersome part. I'd like to see it default to the humidor if you only have one entered. If there is more than one, then have it default to a preselected default chosen by the end user. There is also something I don't like about the screen you enter the cigar info to add it, but I don't know how to make it better. I'd like to see pop up windows that direct the user through the required info, and keep the non required info like box code separate and on a similar screen they are on now.

The app seems VERY cuban oriented, which I think will be a mistake when it comes to the majority of american users. Seems like it'd limit your audience.

Also, I didn't have ANY of the crashing issues that others were having when adding or deleting humidors, cigars, or anything.

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I really like the idea of the app. In fact, when the final version is out, I may be one of your customers if the NC database is improved.

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I enjoy this app. It takes some time to enter everything but its does a great job of tracking everything

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There is a "Notes" field in beta 2, where you can enter as much text as you want. A future version will have a much more robust "Smoking Notes" area, but that isn't designed and thought through yet.

Thanks for the suggestion

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No worries :tu. I'm glad you got it working, but I also understand that people have lives with more important things going on. Any help is appreciated, but the timeline pressure is my own self-imposed pressure.

Thanks.

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One quick learning for me is that the reference database is the key value here, so yeah, I really need to build out the NC data. Unfortunately, a lot of that info is all over the map, whereas the CC data was much easier to find concisely (Wikipedia and a couple of internet sites have a lot of it captured very concisely).

I think that's an exception rather than a rule, but I'll make sure it can show up blank if it's not needed.

Excellent point. I will see what I can do with this. Fundamentally, the only 'required' info is Humidor and Quantity, so those should be prompted more efficiently. I like that idea.

Agreed. I originally was adding the cigar data as an "extra", since users can enter their own anyway, but clearly this data is one of the value propositions of the app, so I need to get focused on the NC data.

With beta 1, as long as you add humidor first, it shouldn't crash, and that seems like the most intuitive way anyway. If you tried to enter quantity first, I can assure you it would have crashed ;). Beta 2 (due out today or tonight) will fix that so you can add 'em any way you want.

Great feedback. Thanks :tu

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Beta 2 list is filled:

1. BigBruce
2. Sr Mike
3. King James
4. sikk50

PM going out shortly with instructions. Thanks everybody :tu

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sounds good. After first cup of coffee I'll be ready to rock n roll

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Ken, first suggestion for today(still beta1) under my cigars, it lists humidors, wishlist, etc. Might be nice to have the cuban, non-cuban option you get once you enter a humidor/wishlist.This would allow a view of the total # of a specific cigar, say if you have 5 cohiba's in one humidor, and 10 in another. It would allow a quick reference without going through multiple humidors for a inventory reference.

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Let's see if I understand correctly. Essentially, you would like to see an "All Humidors" item in the humidors list? That way, you could drill down to view your collection as a whole, instead of by individual humidor.

Do I have that correct? (I hope so, because that is pretty straightforward to code ;)).

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Update:

Beta 2 is now built; just waiting for some info from 2 beta testers to send it out. I think we're still on track for release in a week or so.
Here's an updated status:

Bug Fixes and Design Changes

• FIXED: Application crash in certain situations adding or deleting a humidor
• FIXED: Application crash in certain situations adding a cigar to a humidor
• FIXED: No longer able to add a new humidor with the same name as an existing one
• FIXED: Humidors with apostrophe character caused inconsistent behavior
• FIXED: Detail page of non-cuban reference cigar was not displaying the "Filler" value
• FIXED: Detail page of reference cigar was not displaying the "Box Code" value

• CHANGED: Text entry now defaults to initial capital letters by word.
• CHANGED: Notes field in My Cigars detail now allows multiple lines of text, with scrolling field.
• CHANGED: Display the length as blank field instead of "(null) (0.0in.)" when no value is entered

• DATA: Began cleaning up default database for improved consistency (more to come)
• DATA: Additions to the cigar reference database (thanks beta 1 team!)
  (Total is now up to 891 unique cigars in the database)

Working On:

• Humidor names don't line up in certain circumstances
• Ability to add new cigars from the Brand List
• Need More NC's added to database
• Improvements to data entry to streamline the process
• Adding an "All Humidors" view to the My Cigars section.
• Continued data cleanup
• When viewing a "My Cigar" record, click a button to "Flip" to the details of that cigar.
  (beta testers haven't asked for that yet, but they will :)).

Probably work on for future version:

• Linking to external info on the web (pricing, reviews, B&M's, etc)
• A field (or 2) to enter MSRP and/or price paid in the My Cigars section
• Ability to edit humidor name (workaround currently exists)
• A more robust "Smoking Notes" section of the App

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You nailed it, and when you say it that way, it's so much simplier. :tu

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great job so far :tu

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One more screenshot for those that are watching but don't have the app. (the list scrolls for a few more items, like indicators for EL, RE and Discontinued.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k.../Teaser2-1.png

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Yet another screenshot, and a question: Notice that this cigar is an NC, so does not show the "Vitola" field, but does show "Binder", "Filler", and "Wrapper" (not necessary for CC's because they would all say "ISOM" anyway. In the 'my cigars' section, should I omit "Box Code" for NC's, or does that field apply in some way to NC's?

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...ke/Teaser3.png

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When can we expect the windows mobile version to be released :r

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I saw this first hand yesterday and I really liked the application and playing around with it. Thanks for letting me check it out Jon. :tu

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Hold your breath, Hell may freeze over yet. About a week after that, I might start coding :ss

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:r

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still debating the box code question, so answering with another question. :P So on the home screen, it lists cigar reference, my cigars, total unique wishlist. Is there a way that you could make those buttons to bring up a list of your cigars? So I could click on 107 total cigars, and it would open a table/list of the brand, type, and quantity of my cigars? The 891 unique list(button) would take you to the cigar referece page for all cigars?

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Not quickly ;).

However, that is a good idea. Let me think about it for a bit to see what it would take. Then of course, you'd want links from that table/list, and links from that, and so on :D.

Can't quit my day job, so have to limit features for first official version.

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Can you also add a function for it to work with my wireless hygrometer sensor so I can check my humidity and temp on the go? :r

can't wait to test it out though :tu

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just waiting for you to respond to the PM I sent you, and you'll be testing soon :)

As for the wireless hygrometer, that's another good idea. I'll also have it bake lasagna for you for when you get home. :r

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KenS' son here, been helping test this since way back in the alpha stage. A page or so back someone mentioned the app's icon. I was the one who designed the icon so I have a question for the current beta testers; what do you think of it? Any suggestions for it, I think I've grown attached to it so I might overlook something on it so hearing someone elses opinion on it would be welcomed.

No problem, glad you enjoyed it.

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Damn... us WM users get no love! :fu

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Love, No.
Pity, Yes.

:r:r

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bah. I missed the PM.

Got it now

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FWIW, I think this is a great idea as well (even though I only have two humidors).

Also, if you want a reference guide for a lot of NC cigars, Pearlman's or however it's spelled might be a wise investment. That being said, it will be extremely cumbersome to add all those cigars. I guess in the end it'll all pay off though. :wo

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I like it, I think the background stands out from all my other apps on my phone. Simple and clean for what my opinion is worth.:2