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wrench turner 85 02-17-2009 07:14 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hotreds (Post 240840)
No- it's up to you to do with your source what you want. If the guy calls you names for doing so that only proves how right you were not to give it up. On the other hand- and I'm not saying you do or did this- some BOTLs really need to cool their jets about bragging about their latest pick-ups- esp. with CCs. After all, these ARE illegal here- and in theory should not be any anyone's hands that lives in the USA.

But- to answer your question succinctly: No.

:tpd:

nozero 02-17-2009 07:15 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
Your source, your call.
:2

beamish 02-17-2009 07:42 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nozero (Post 241207)
Your source, your call.
:2

couldnt agree more

totallytentative 02-17-2009 07:46 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
My personal call is that it would be a situation-dependant thing.

If the source is nothing special and exclusive access isn't an issue, then sure, why not?

If the source is something exclusive and a bit of an "insider tip" that gives you an edge that would be eroded by spreading the word around everywhere, then I would defer to those that say, "It's your source.". The fishing hole analogy is great.

Basically I would let someone in on some very valuable information if I have a good and familiar relationship where you trust this person, it's okay to tell him not to tell anyone else, and where it would be okay to call him out on it and say, "Hey man, did you tell anyone about that or something?!?" Harder to do this with a stranger or casual acquaintance.

Stonewall 02-17-2009 07:48 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
It's your info and you can choose who to share it with I wold not worry about what anyone thought.
Josh

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-17-2009 07:51 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
No, its not wrong.

Hitagain 02-17-2009 10:18 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
I agree that it is your source and your right not to reveal it. Not like I would know anything, as new as I am, I'm happy when I find something local at MSRP. I did ask someone local to my area when some local B&Ms where around here and he was happy to let me know, I may at some point down the line ask for someones source and if they wouldn't reveal it, I would at least hope they offer to make a buy for me, but if they didn't I would completely understand....

groogs 02-17-2009 10:23 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stonewall (Post 241336)
It's your info and you can choose who to share it with I wold not worry about what anyone thought.
Josh

:tpd: Your source is your source, do with it what you will.

Wolfgang 02-17-2009 10:26 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
I wont give my sources out to anyone! My family asked how I obtained a box of HDM Des Dieux and my only answer the whole week was " from a friend". I know what I had to do to be let on to these sources and there is no chance in H-E-double hockeysticks Im giving it up. They can order through me no charge whatsoever and I will ship to them. (maybe skim a stick or two off the top)

Sandman 02-17-2009 10:42 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
I used to, now I don't. It's unbelievable how ungrateful some have been when I have helped them out. Never did give out a source that was beyond the obvious though. It was amazing at the old board, there would be banner ads flashing all day, and people would still be wondering where to source cigars. :confused:

ucla695 02-18-2009 06:53 AM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
I don't think it wrong to keep sources closely held. It's a privilege, not a right.

s15driftking 02-18-2009 07:10 AM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
i have encountered similar situations.

I tell people who deserve to be told. I NEVER feel obligated to tell osmeone just because they ask. You wouldn't give away business tactics and secrets to those hwo could potentially ruin you and your livelyhood would you?

I know "sharing cigar sources" is a much milder example... but just think about it. Besides, if you are asking this community, it sounds like you didn't want to tell him in the first place. That is called a "gut feeling"

ronhoffman2 02-18-2009 03:55 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
keep it to yourself, especially from schmoes who have 1 post and it's asking you where to get your smokes from.

shilala 02-18-2009 04:22 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
I share most everything eventually.
I don't think there's anything wrong with staying tight-lipped about a source, but I always feel guilty about it.
I figure if I feel guilty, it's wrong. When I tire of feeling guilty, I cough it up. :)

s0leful0ne 02-18-2009 04:29 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
i agree that there is no problem . You've done the footwork (or phonework) to find them and have worked hard to develop a relationship with them.

I'm even tightlipped about the Asylum. I pre-screen the friends I invite on here :)

SeanGAR 02-18-2009 04:36 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
I know this one guy ... used to be gurhka smoker ... he subtly asked in a post where one might get some of the forbidden fruit.

Did I feel bad when I told him? No ... he seemed like a nice guy from my limited online interactions with him.

So I told him .... www.papayas-r-us.com.

Now his collection of papayas is truly impressive. His buying hasn't interfered with mine because he graduated to sites that I have not used: www.ripe-red-papayas.com, www.nuthin-but-papayas.net and www.aged-dunhill-payapas-for-all.com.

But in your case I wouldn't sweat not telling somebody. They don't understand, well that's just too FB.

Steve 02-18-2009 04:40 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
Mucho UNcool!

BTW, where was that fabulous poon spot and what tide was it? J/K

:ss


Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin Gator (Post 240866)
Exactly... I have a very nearly same story when I was guiding. This one was on TV and I went back to the spot and saw the camera man in the spot. I nearly jumped off of my boat and strangled him.


Smokin Gator 02-18-2009 05:35 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steve (Post 242952)
Mucho UNcool!

BTW, where was that fabulous poon spot and what tide was it? J/K

:ss

Just for you brother...

This is a deep hole on the north side of Pine Island right off of the Intracoastal.Last half hour of the outgoing and first half hour of the incoming;)

But it was a redfish spot.

s15driftking 02-18-2009 05:37 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 242930)
I share most everything eventually.


well put, with time people may become deserving etc.

Bubba - NJ 02-20-2009 02:09 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
Not at all . One source ruined is one too many ! :ss

RGD. 02-20-2009 03:10 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbourjay (Post 240898)
. . . my young brain to process.


It all gets easier to avoid answering the question when you get old. "Um I got those from . . . now lemme think - what the hell is that name - crap I forgot - it will come to me one day - damn."

And people believe you . . . cause your old.

Most of the time though I sound like that when I'm seriously trying to answer the question - :ss


Ron

Steve 02-20-2009 05:37 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
It's been a while since I've gotten down around there, but there are quite a few good spots down around there as I recall. I still figure you and I will have to do a recon one of these days!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin Gator (Post 243089)
Just for you brother...

This is a deep hole on the north side of Pine Island right off of the Intracoastal.Last half hour of the outgoing and first half hour of the incoming;)

But it was a redfish spot.


spectrrr 02-21-2009 06:11 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
Simple rule of thumb. "If you have to ask......"

Simple answer too - you have a friend that is willing to do YOU (and you only) OCCASIONAL favors. Simple as that. now you're not being a fukstick for not telling them, its simply a problem that your source is limited and not open for business with other people. Add in something about being paranoid too if need be :)
That line or random variations of it can apply to CC and NC sources alike.

Generally if someone is a decent friend, I'll offer to pick it up for them... but they're still not getting my source. Source only goes to people that I REALLY know.

Rabidsquirrel 02-22-2009 05:57 PM

Re: is it wrong to withold a source?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandman (Post 241764)
It was amazing at the old board, there would be banner ads flashing all day, and people would still be wondering where to source cigars. :confused:

I think the biggest problem with that is most people, including me, have no idea if they were legit. I figure some day I'll either take a chance with one of them, or someone will clue me in on where to go. Doesn't really make a difference to me, I'm enjoying what I have now.


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