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Blueface 10-19-2009 12:58 PM

Re: USPS opening a domestic package.
 
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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 607074)
Nope. Just a good old Priority Mail box.

How on this Earth could they have known what was inside?
That would mean these guys are opening up packages randomly?
What a way to risk losing a job!
Sure this isn't some type of joke?
Come on, whoever did this to the poor guy, come clean now, own up to it, all will be forgiven.:D

tsolomon 10-19-2009 01:05 PM

Re: USPS opening a domestic package.
 
Interesting.

Priority Mail, which is often used for shipping tobacco, is sealed against inspection. Therefore a federal search warrant or consent would be needed to open these packages. Unless the mailer voluntarily discloses that a package contains nonmailable matter, generally the only way to determine whether it contains unlawful contents is to open the package.

http://www.usps.com/communications/n...ibbons0424.htm

bvilchez 10-19-2009 03:23 PM

Re: USPS opening a domestic package.
 
Very interesting read on the inspection needed for Priority mail.
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elderboy02 10-19-2009 05:17 PM

Re: USPS opening a domestic package.
 
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Originally Posted by bvilchez (Post 607422)
Very interesting read on the inspection needed for Priority mail.
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Indeed it is.

Mindflux 06-14-2010 01:01 PM

Re: USPS opening a domestic package.
 
What became of this?

Gophernut 06-14-2010 01:53 PM

Re: USPS opening a domestic package.
 
I'm interested to find out too!:D

dyieldin 06-14-2010 01:55 PM

Re: USPS opening a domestic package.
 
Really, you can not leave us hanging on this!

shilala 06-14-2010 02:11 PM

Re: USPS opening a domestic package.
 
Stuff gets mashed quite a bit.
The only thing I can figure is that the box got mashed on the belt and the stuff spilled out. Whoever recovered the box may have found the coffin and smoking tips beneath the belt and just thought it obvious they went together.
Normally they'll bag the box. Printed on the bag is the "We screwed up your stuff" message. The employee may have just been lazy and didn't bother bagging.
To assume someone "stole" two out of three coffins just doesn't make any sense at all, for about a million reasons.

In any event, it totally sucks. I used to insure everything, but I stopped. I spent so much in insurance that I could easily pay for a number of lost packages. Occasionally I do use it though, if something is exceptionally valuable and I don't want to take the hit if it gets destroyed or lost.
I hope it all works out for you guys!!! :tu

MichaelJ 06-14-2010 02:55 PM

Re: USPS opening a domestic package.
 
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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 886793)
Stuff gets mashed quite a bit.
The only thing I can figure is that the box got mashed on the belt and the stuff spilled out. Whoever recovered the box may have found the coffin and smoking tips beneath the belt and just thought it obvious they went together.
Normally they'll bag the box. Printed on the bag is the "We screwed up your stuff" message. The employee may have just been lazy and didn't bother bagging.

My thoughts exactly. I work at UPS in the mornings as a second job and I can see how this can/does happen. Not sure if the potential is there with USPS, but would assume so. Hope this turned out ok.

markem 06-14-2010 02:59 PM

Re: USPS opening a domestic package.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 886793)
Stuff gets mashed quite a bit.
The only thing I can figure is that the box got mashed on the belt and the stuff spilled out. Whoever recovered the box may have found the coffin and smoking tips beneath the belt and just thought it obvious they went together.
Normally they'll bag the box. Printed on the bag is the "We screwed up your stuff" message. The employee may have just been lazy and didn't bother bagging.
To assume someone "stole" two out of three coffins just doesn't make any sense at all, for about a million reasons.

:tpd: I agree completely. My advice is to make sure that there are no air spaces in your package. My thinking is that if you reinforce, especially at the corners, then the package has a better chance. None of my packages have collapsed in the machinery, but it is only a matter of time, given how much I ship. Still, making sure that there are no spaces or soft spots seems like a good plan, especially since they thinned the material on the priority boxes to reduce costs.

shilala 06-14-2010 03:01 PM

Re: USPS opening a domestic package.
 
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Originally Posted by MichaelJ (Post 886835)
My thoughts exactly. I work at UPS in the mornings as a second job and I can see how this can/does happen. Not sure if the potential is there with USPS, but would assume so. Hope this turned out ok.

I worked for UPS for a minute and there was always stuff floating around in the truck that came out of packages. I always did my best to try to get the loosies back in the right box, but I could have easily stuffed the wrong thing in the wrong open box. There's no time to mess around.
The alternative is that no one gets the roll arounds, and I just fall on them.
I can see real easy how stuff could have fell out and the wrong stuff put back in. I can't imagine anyone intentionally rifling and putting the wrong stuff in. The odds are way too astronomical, but I'm sure it could happen. It's just awful far out there.

neoflex 06-14-2010 07:13 PM

Re: USPS opening a domestic package.
 
I would be curious to hear how this turned out.

Neuromancer 06-14-2010 07:39 PM

Re: USPS opening a domestic package.
 
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Originally Posted by barbourjay (Post 606312)
So i sent a package to a member here and all went well with everything except, he gets the priority mail box and it had been opened by the USPS. they opened it, removed two of the coffins and replaced them with a note and some type of quit smoking tips.

is there any repercussions to the post office about this, or the employee? they blatantly stole something of mine and replaced it. i'm waiting for the box to get back to me to take it to the post office but would like everyone's opinions on what i should do. should i talk to the post master? i don't ship insured, only with a DC# usually as i don't expect the USPS to steal anything. especially a small priority mail box.

I know this isn't what you want to hear but it's highly unlikely that it was opened by a postal worker...I recently won a set of trading cards on ebay...the seller stuck them in a small priority mail box and shipped it...it came to me as an empty box with a stamp on it from the PO stating the box opened during shipment and the contents were lost...the problem here is the stickum they use on those boxes...it's crappy...I never ship a priority mail item without taping the box shut over their flap...the flaps never stay closed...a more likely scenario is that the box opened and the missing items fell out and were seperated from the box and the PO employees had no way to match them up as the contents probably went one way and the box another...if the box opened in a mail bag the coffins would have slid to the bottom of the bag while the box went on for processing...when someone noticed the box was open they added the note...by then, the missing contents were long gone...the PO usually doesn't deliberately open domestic mail unless there's a reason...hopefully, that's why the stupid laws that some states are passing banning the mailing of tobacco products will fail...it's highly unlikely the PO is going to take on the job of enforcer...


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