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Todd, the first 9 I smoked was amazing IMO, the half dozen I have smoked since where underwhelming. I liked my first Undercrown, disliked the rest. I loved the T52 pig but don't care for the robusto. Who knows. As Tom said and you know.....smoke what you like. I can think of better things than to be in love with a cigar that retails for 12 bucks. I'll stick with my 5 dollar boli pcs.

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How was the UF-4? As for me, they were not what I expected. Underwhelming is a good term.

The FFP I think is the best stick of the bunch.

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Actually Clayton, I just today moved it into my travel humi to torch within the next few VCM herfs. :D

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I have 5 left. Needed age even tho they were released in fall of '11. I hope they get better.

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That's exactly what I say below. I started the thread to see if I was the only one out there. And, as much to start a conversation as anything else.

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I have noticed a number of cigars that get wimpier with age. Some mellow and smooth out. Most lose the sharp edges (if I can say it that way) to their unique flavor profiles.

So Scott, I know you think that Oliva Vs age well, what do you think about the Litto Gomez stuff, especially the LGD and Coronado lines?

Peace of the Lord be with you.

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I agree with you bro. Most of the trendy cigars just do not appeal to me. At lest not for their price points. I feel very strongly about that with regards to Liga/Tat. They are damn good smokes for half their MSRP.

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Interesting view on the Air Bender in comparison. Compared to the LGs, Coronados, and Small Batch, I've only had a couple - in fact just one of each size. I haven't bought any of them yet, only because financed haven't favored me doing so. Maybe I need to revisit them before a box purchase.

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I wouldn't worry about it.

Right around when the T-52 was first coming out or maybe even a bit before, Steve Saka and I were having a conversation about the 52, the then upcoming Dirty Rat and a few other projects that they were working on at DE and he made a comment that went something like "Invariably, if you make a cigar that everyone likes, you've made a cigar that no one will love."

The converse is also true, in making a cigar that appeals so strongly to some smoker's tastes that they "love" it, you've made a cigar that is not going to be to everyone's tastes.

So you don't like the Liga Privada line. No big deal, not everyone is going to love it. Maybe someday they will release something that you do like, or, maybe that day will never come. Who knows?

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I am not exactly "worried" about it. Was simply curious if I was alone in my estimation of the LPs. And, as I said earlier, it was also something of a conversatin starter.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

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I totally agree with undercrown, have never liked them, find them barely smokeable, have actually been wanting to revisit the ¡Viva! Soon because I always hear praise for it so I will give it a second shot on a night that I am willing to take a chance. T52 were good but not worth the coin, and the L40 was a let down especially since I love the size.... but love 9s, Baitfish, FFP Dirty Rats, A's.

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I tried the #9 when it came out. Didn't like it and never tried any of the others. May try them some day but am not in a rush.

MCS

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T52 - First one I tried was best cigar I'd ever had to that point. Ambient enviromment no doubt affected experience. But, all I've had since have been very enjoyable, if never quite approaching initial one.
LP9 - Never had a bad one. Never had one blow me away either. I won't pay retail for them.
Dirty Rat - Always enjoyed; worth retail to try - or on the rare occassion I come across one, but won't seek them out and won't buy any to have around.
Pigs - Meh.
FFP - Had first one yesterday. Great 9 dollar cigar. Unfortunately, I paid $23 for two in CA, and $18 for two here in VA. I won't buy another. Great combo of smooth/sweet/pepper....but not very complex, IMHO.
Undercrown - Like, not love. I like these OK at under $100/box. One of VERY few San Andres wrapped cigars I enjoy. Not one to sit and contemplate, however. Good knockaround cigar to enjoy while doing something else.

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I do buy them occassionally and have tried many of them. The FFP was the best in my opinion, but certainly not worth $15/stick. Just bought a 5ver of the Undercrown corona's and have had two and I agree they are very tasty. Great looking cigar, great burn and great flavor. Not sure that my palate is sophisticated enough to notice multiple dimensions to be honest; just know that I liked them. To me the worst one was the T52's.