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skier171 01-20-2010 12:30 PM
Re: More Questions :) What is Cellaring
 
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Originally Posted by JaKaacH (Post 727004)
Do you like Coffee?
So many slippery slopes...tea...coffee...cigars...pipe tobacco...uh oh.

not good for a college student at all. good thing for a internship. but still.

I'd never heard of cellaring, makes complete sense, but im buying a couple tins right now that ill toss in my closet and find in a few years.

Mister Moo 01-20-2010 01:57 PM
Re: More Questions :) What is Cellaring
 
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Originally Posted by Bruce (Post 726857)
I would have to disagree about English blends not ageing well.
I have tins of John Cotton's, Sullivan's, Dunhill's, and Sobranie that are simply marvelous after 20/30/40 years in the tin.
As a matter of fact, I will only smoke tobaccos that have been aged for at least 5 to 10 years.
I cannot disagree with your disagreement but I did say english blends "tend" not to show great improvement, not that they do never improve. (I've enjoyed Sobranie and some Barry Levin stuff that was spectacular after 10-20 years in the can I've seem more latakia appear to hold, or lose, ground in my short viewing span of five-eight years.) This would be something interesting to discuss in depth in a new thread, if you would. -moo

DrDubzz 01-20-2010 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 727114)
So these jars can be opened from time to time and still age? Kinda like opening a humi from time to time?
well... no not really, as far as the aging is concerned

The point was more that, for smaller amounts, these are easy access, and maintain a good seal.

but when you introduce new air, and release the previously sealed, fermenting air (for lack of a better term as the air itself is not actually fermenting), you are essentially starting over.

Although, if you have really stuffed the jar tight, then perhaps the tobaccos towards the bottom won't be so much affected.

I'm not entirely sure, but it was more of an access thing and convenience, than aging apparatus

Starscream 01-21-2010 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RX2010 (Post 727363)
well... no not really, as far as the aging is concerned

The point was more that, for smaller amounts, these are easy access, and maintain a good seal.

but when you introduce new air, and release the previously sealed, fermenting air (for lack of a better term as the air itself is not actually fermenting), you are essentially starting over.

Although, if you have really stuffed the jar tight, then perhaps the tobaccos towards the bottom won't be so much affected.

I'm not entirely sure, but it was more of an access thing and convenience, than aging apparatus
:tu Gotcha. Not good for cellaring, but good for keeping from drying out.

DrDubzz 01-21-2010 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 728079)
:tu Gotcha. Not good for cellaring, but good for keeping from drying out.
yes

now, you can long term store if you don't open them, but some seal better than others

SilverFox 01-21-2010 07:49 AM
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should tins be sealed in some other airtight container or are they air tight themselves?

Are the tins dated or do they need labeling

on bulk tobacco you mention mason jars, does light impact tobacco as in should they be aged in the dark?

Thank you

Curly Cut 01-21-2010 09:35 AM
Re: More Questions :) What is Cellaring
 
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Originally Posted by SilverFox (Post 728127)
should tins be sealed in some other airtight container or are they air tight themselves?
if the tin is still sealed, it's sealed, no need for airtight containers

Are the tins dated or do they need labeling
only tins made by McClelland and C&D are dated (that includes GL pease, PCCA, Hearth and Home, etc, whoever does the making of the blend and tins it, if it was C&D or McClelland, it will have a date stamp on the bottom - they do it differently from each other) C&D tins are a mo/day/year stamping; McClellands are a blend#/batch/yr stamping

on bulk tobacco you mention mason jars, does light impact tobacco as in should they be aged in the dark?
not that i know of.

Thank you
reply in the quote.

BigFrank 01-21-2010 06:35 PM
Re: More Questions :) What is Cellaring
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RX2010 (Post 727363)
well... no not really, as far as the aging is concerned

The point was more that, for smaller amounts, these are easy access, and maintain a good seal.

but when you introduce new air, and release the previously sealed, fermenting air (for lack of a better term as the air itself is not actually fermenting), you are essentially starting over.

Although, if you have really stuffed the jar tight, then perhaps the tobaccos towards the bottom won't be so much affected.

I'm not entirely sure, but it was more of an access thing and convenience, than aging apparatus
I dont think I would use them for aging. They do keep the moisture over a long period of time compared to just leaving it in the tin. For someone like myself who takes a decent amount of time to finish a tin, they are very nice. Also, I keep a few of them on my desk with tobacco in them. they look decent enough to leave laying around, and for the price (2-3$) they are well worth it. When I finish a tin, I just wash them out with some soapy water let them dry out, then crack open a new tin and put the contents into the glass jar.

Paulmac 01-25-2010 07:18 PM
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If yer interested in aging pipe tobacco, this outta keep ya busy for an hour or ten

http://nocturne.org/aging/


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