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CigarSquid 01-04-2013 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Remo (Post 1776102)
All comes down to personal preference, from a knock down standpoint a .45 is the best round, I seem to think a 9mm is fine as I can carry 13 rounds in my compact M&P, I have seen 9mm rounds go clear through a guys head at 25 yards (he stopped his criminal behavior at that point). But you need good ammo in whatever you are going to carry :tu that is the key!

I'm sure that isn't all that stopped.

Remo 01-04-2013 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1776103)
I'm sure that isn't all that stopped.

All life function as well,,,,good riddance!

emopunker2004 01-04-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1776078)
What aspect of a caliber do you guys look for in a self defense round? I'm still looking around for a good handgun for self defense, and I like the 10mm auto round. G29 and G20 seems to be up my alley for a first handgun. I've shot both guns and they are fun to shoot. From what I've read, penetration is key. Not bullet size.

Penetration and size of wound cavity are important. Bigger bullet= bigger cavity. If its a carry gun get something u will actually carry. A .380 that's on u is better than a .45 at home. That said my carry gun is a kahr cw45 in 45acp.

jluck 01-04-2013 09:42 PM

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:wo I just picked up a 10/22 Take down! Not the I-tac I wanted but another cool 10/22 to have around, great for running and gunning in the need arises.
:noon

Steve 01-04-2013 09:52 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Remo (Post 1776102)
All comes down to personal preference, from a knock down standpoint a .45 is the best round, I seem to think a 9mm is fine as I can carry 13 rounds in my compact M&P, I have seen 9mm rounds go clear through a guys head at 25 yards (he stopped his criminal behavior at that point). But you need good ammo in whatever you are going to carry :tu that is the key!

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9mm with HydroShocks work pretty well, but down here we don't have to worry about penetrating a bunch of layers of clothes either. For that I have something special :D

Remo 01-04-2013 09:56 PM

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Here is my little buddy.

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bonjing 01-04-2013 10:46 PM

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Nice M&P, Remo. I've been on the look out for a M&P45 full size with thumb safety for a few months now. I have a request at my old shop, if any of the vendors gets one in stock to snatch it up for me.

Remo 01-04-2013 10:49 PM

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I have the full size 9 also and love them both

spectrrr 01-04-2013 11:03 PM

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I was looking at the M&P in 9 and 40 at my local shop this week, but ending up walking out with the G17. Between those two and the XD, the ergos of the M&P seemed to suit me the least (I was kind of surprised at that). I still haven't had a chance to test out the ergos on the XDM

Remo 01-04-2013 11:07 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
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Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1776145)
I was looking at the M&P in 9 and 40 at my local shop this week, but ending up walking out with the G17. Between those two and the XD, the ergos of the M&P seemed to suit me the least (I was kind of surprised at that). I still haven't had a chance to test out the ergos on the XDM

I am just the opposite, the m&p suits me better than my 17 ever has :sh

bonjing 01-04-2013 11:08 PM

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Had my first KB! Not too bad, it was more of a case rupture. But it's kinda funny how it played out. All was shooting fine then all of a sudden the mag falls out of the gun, I look down and just did a, wtf again? Then all of sudden owww my hand starting hurting. Looking my hand over no blood :banger all fingers are there :noon then I look closer and see the outline of the mag release along my palm covered in black burns and also on my trigger finger, I thought it was kind of funny; only because I wasn't hurt.

Gun checked out ok and the grouping I was shooting for was nice and tight!

If your wondering about the "mag falling out again" part. Story behind that was I was shooting during a class using my G22 and during my run I saw my mag fall out. Kind of embarrassing but did a quick reload and continued my run trying not to laugh. :D

Remo 01-04-2013 11:19 PM

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Kinda scary bro

spectrrr 01-04-2013 11:26 PM

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what gun were you shooting at the time?

bonjing 01-04-2013 11:33 PM

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My G19 the rounds were mine. 124 grain vitavouri n330 I think forgot the grain I reload at a friends place. I'm hoping it was just one of those weakened case failures because my 228 and carbine seem to like these rounds and judging by the grouping that I got the 19 likes them as well.

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-05-2013 01:17 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Remo (Post 1776102)
All comes down to personal preference, from a knock down standpoint a .45 is the best round, I seem to think a 9mm is fine as I can carry 13 rounds in my compact M&P, I have seen 9mm rounds go clear through a guys head at 25 yards (he stopped his criminal behavior at that point). But you need good ammo in whatever you are going to carry :tu that is the key!

Isn't knock down power a myth though? Just reading some last night and it seems kinetic energy does not wound and temporary cavity does not wound. Which both are the result of the larger amount of energy from the larger bullet right?

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1776109)
Penetration and size of wound cavity are important. Bigger bullet= bigger cavity. If its a carry gun get something u will actually carry. A .380 that's on u is better than a .45 at home. That said my carry gun is a kahr cw45 in 45acp.

Do you mean permanent cavity when you say wound cavity?

emopunker2004 01-05-2013 01:44 PM

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Knockdown power is a myth but hydrostatic shock is not a myth. And yes I meant perm wound cavity.

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-05-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1776300)
Knockdown power is a myth but hydrostatic shock is not a myth. And yes I meant perm wound cavity.

Gotcha thanks:tu

bonjing 01-05-2013 01:57 PM

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This is a good read about ammo choices for self defense,

http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_De..._FAQ/index.htm

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-05-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjing (Post 1776306)
This is a good read about ammo choices for self defense,

http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_De..._FAQ/index.htm

Awesome, thanks for the link. Will read shortly.

emopunker2004 01-05-2013 04:26 PM

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Well I'm working on drawing up a Living Trust so I can send in a form 1 to turn my AR-15 into an SBR :D


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