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68TriShield 04-30-2009 08:35 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05 (Post 363229)
Not to be a pain in the butt but the CB radio forum I belong to has a hunting/fishing sub forum as well as a guns and ammo area that are always busy

Sorry Rich but it's not going happen here.

smokeyandthebandit05 04-30-2009 08:42 AM

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its ok lol

BC-Axeman 04-30-2009 09:49 AM

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I just got a new Natchez catalog that has some good prices on some reloading material I want so I called up on the phone to order some. The website says they are out of stock on almost everything in the catalog that I want but I thought I could get on a list or something. HA! Not. The guy told me he didn't think they were going to get restocked this year. I think ammo and ammo components are good investments. I wonder if there is a mutual fund for this?

smokeyandthebandit05 04-30-2009 10:16 AM

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That sucks they were all out of everything. Also ammo and the like is a really good investment. If we do get that huge tax increase we saved money. If it doesnt go thru and ammo prices stay the same and since everyone bought thousands of rounds they probably (normal people) wont think to get more. But were not normal and with the flooded market of ammo noone wants we can buy more! Also we can always shoot it later for fun:wo

Mark C 04-30-2009 01:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 68TriShield (Post 363125)
Mark I would suggest joining a gun forum then.There are probably a thousand of them out there and honestly the 11 has enough to do already.
Not to mention the fact,we are a Cigar/Pipe forum not a general purpose forum :)

Already joined several. One of them even has a cigar subforum ('social group' technically). I figured what with the food, recipe, booze, coffee, tea, etc forums here one more wouldn't hurt ;) No sweat though, thanks for the response!

AAlmeter 04-30-2009 04:45 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark C (Post 363717)
Already joined several. One of them even has a cigar subforum ('social group' technically). I figured what with the food, recipe, booze, coffee, tea, etc forums here one more wouldn't hurt ;) No sweat though, thanks for the response!

We must belong to some of the same forums then...

Funny thing is, I never read any on the cigar threads on CA/CS anymore, but I'll always read this thread. On the gun forums, I'll occasionally poke into some firearm threads, but I always check the cigar forum out.

floydpink 04-30-2009 05:33 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Which gun forum has a cigar section? I am on firinglineforums and another one as well and see a common thread between cigar smokers and second ammendment rights lovers but haven't noticed a cigar section in any of the gun forums.

On that note, I also see a lot of gun owner, cigar smoking guys and girls riding Harleys.

There may be something hidden here because it has been more than once I have seen a cigar smoking gun toting Harley riding 2nd ammendment loving person owning an outdoor spa.

These are all hobbies of mine and it is less and less I find like minded folk in this swine flu infested world.

Not that CA doesn't provide all the forum fun i need in regards to cigars, it would be nice to have options....

BC-Axeman 04-30-2009 05:44 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 364153)
Which gun forum has a cigar section? I am on firinglineforums and another one as well and see a common thread between cigar smokers and second ammendment rights lovers but haven't noticed a cigar section in any of the gun forums.

On that note, I also see a lot of gun owner, cigar smoking guys and girls riding Harleys.

There may be something hidden here because it has been more than once I have seen a cigar smoking gun toting Harley riding 2nd ammendment loving person owning an outdoor spa.

These are all hobbies of mine and it is less and less I find like minded folk in this swine flu infested world.

Not that CA doesn't provide all the forum fun i need in regards to cigars, it would be nice to have options....

We have an outdoor spa thread?
And don't forget OHVs.

elderboy02 04-30-2009 06:09 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 364153)
Which gun forum has a cigar section? ....

AR15.com has a section called "The Humidor" It is under the general discussion tab.

JE3146 04-30-2009 07:36 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Yup... I've seen dan in there from time to time
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Cigarcop 04-30-2009 08:11 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Well today I got tired of looking at the Ed Brown 1911 Kobra Carry (Stainless/Blue) in the case just calling to me every time I was in there!!!! and it now has a new home:D

Tombstone 04-30-2009 08:38 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigarcop (Post 364491)
Well today I got tired of looking at the Ed Brown 1911 Kobra Carry (Stainless/Blue) in the case just calling to me every time I was in there!!!! and it now has a new home:D

Nice!:tu

Mark C 05-01-2009 11:12 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 364153)
Which gun forum has a cigar section?

I was thinking of a local board, www.mdshooters.com

macms 05-03-2009 04:27 PM

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http://www.cfrhn.com/CA/images/gunthread.jpg

AAlmeter 05-04-2009 05:56 PM

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I do enough yappin' in this thread, I guess I'll post some pictures....

(I'm not much of a photographer)


http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...r/DSC01340.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...r/DSC01342.jpg

Catfish 05-04-2009 06:03 PM

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lovin the flat top AR. Is that just a heavy barrel or is that chambered for .308? meh... maybe not. The upper doesn't look like it's capable of handling .308.

BC-Axeman 05-04-2009 06:07 PM

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What's the green gun?

AAlmeter 05-04-2009 06:09 PM

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.223 that is being swapped out shortly for a .223 without a flash suppressor.


The green gun is a Rem 597 .22

Diesel Kinevel 05-05-2009 11:34 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman (Post 369201)
What's the green gun?

Remington Model 597 .22 LR

replicant_argent 05-05-2009 11:37 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Has anyone shot a Micro DE?

elderboy02 05-05-2009 11:39 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 364417)
Yup... I've seen dan in there from time to time
Posted via Mobile Device

You need to post in that forum too ;)

weak_link 05-05-2009 01:08 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Got some new parts in for the 10/22 yesterday. Trigger pull went from 6# + to right about 2.5#.
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...k/CIMG3761.jpg

Also doing some long term baby sitting on a 1948 Remington Model 81 in .300 savage. Spend all day Sunday bringing it back to life and still have more work to do. Going to take it out to the range and see if it blows up before I do anymore work on it. :r

This is not the rifle but looks just like this one. Just a lot more beat up.

http://thegreatmodel8.remingtonsocie...l-81/cab81.jpg

JE3146 05-07-2009 03:13 PM

I barely have enough time to post here. Lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 370378)
You need to post in that forum too ;)

Posted via Mobile Device

Mark C 05-10-2009 05:34 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Most recent purchase:
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...75_1383389.jpg

6 1/2" Glossy Stainless Single Six w/ fixed sights ('baby vaquero'). A little mother's polish and it shines like a mirror now. I never knew single action revolvers could be so fun.

elderboy02 05-10-2009 06:18 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark C (Post 376358)
Most recent purchase:
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...75_1383389.jpg

6 1/2" Glossy Stainless Single Six w/ fixed sights ('baby vaquero'). A little mother's polish and it shines like a mirror now. I never knew single action revolvers could be so fun.

Nice pickup!

Bruins Fan 05-10-2009 07:22 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark C (Post 376358)
Most recent purchase:
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...75_1383389.jpg

6 1/2" Glossy Stainless Single Six w/ fixed sights ('baby vaquero'). A little mother's polish and it shines like a mirror now. I never knew single action revolvers could be so fun.

Nice, I love that gun, I need to pick one up my grand kid wants to go plinking, all my stuff is a little to big :)

gpugliese 05-10-2009 08:46 AM

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http://gregpugliese.com/arlower.jpg

5.56 upper comes in next week, and I recently got in a Ciener .22 conversion (hence the black dog magazine). Can't wait!

JE3146 05-10-2009 11:41 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gpugliese (Post 376463)
http://gregpugliese.com/arlower.jpg

5.56 upper comes in next week, and I recently got in a Ciener .22 conversion (hence the black dog magazine). Can't wait!

Let me know how the black dog mag works out. I've been eyeballing them for my M261 kit. :)

weak_link 05-10-2009 05:44 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Well I shot that old Remington Model 81 today and my shoulder is officially p.o.'d at me. Makes an old Mossin Nagant seem like a .22. The thing bit my thumb while loading it, then it proceeded to pound my shoulder into mince meat after only one 5 shot group. Aluminium butt plate didn't help and I sure could have used a shoulder pad. Yah, I'm'a wuss. Said 'thank you very much for the experience' and laid it back down in order to spend some quality time with my other guns. :r

Diesel Kinevel 05-10-2009 07:22 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark C (Post 365286)
I was thinking of a local board, www.mdshooters.com

very good site. If you get on there I have the same username:D

BamBam 05-10-2009 08:04 PM

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Alright fellas here's the deal.

I really want an AR-15. I have an offer on the table to buy a Colt for $1500.

I have never done much work on firearms besides field stripping them for cleaning.

I am sorta interested in building my own...but only if it would be cheaper to do so.

What do you think...good deal on the Colt or should I get to building???

Also can you guys point me to some good resources on how to build one and a good place for parts if you think that is the avenue I should go.

Thanks Gents

BamBam 05-10-2009 08:07 PM

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Also...I took my new KelTec P11 out today and put 30 rounds through it. Shot great. It didn't jam or stove pipe or anything like that. I wish I could have put more rounds through it but didn't have the time. I just wanted to see if I could get it to malfunction.

The last 10 rounds I shot very quickly in succession trying to make it malfunction. It did well in that little test. For the price I got it for I am very happy.

AAlmeter 05-10-2009 08:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BamBam (Post 376988)
Alright fellas here's the deal.

I really want an AR-15. I have an offer on the table to buy a Colt for $1500.

I have never done much work on firearms besides field stripping them for cleaning.

I am sorta interested in building my own...but only if it would be cheaper to do so.

What do you think...good deal on the Colt or should I get to building???

Also can you guys point me to some good resources on how to build one and a good place for parts if you think that is the avenue I should go.

Thanks Gents

Check out AR15.com for info and their equipmen exchange section. I'm finishing up a build of my own, and they've been a great resource.

I'd put $1500 in the ballpark for what Ive seen them going for, but prices are high and fluctuate a lot on all guns lately.

And building your own is not as difficult as one might think if youre mechanically inclined.

gpugliese 05-10-2009 09:28 PM

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$1500 is high right now, but if you really aren't good with your hands, it may be worth it. The hardest part is assembling the lower parts kit, and there's a thorough walkthrough on arfcom if you want to look into it. You could build an upper from scratch which would be a little more complicated, but they are generally available complete or complete minus a bolt carrier group, which just slides in place.

Here's what I have into my AR build so far:

Stripped Lower: $150
Lower Parts Kit: $75 (retail for $50ish if you can find one in stock, $80-100 on EE.AR15)
Stock: $75
5.56 Upper w/ charging handle: $515
5.56 BCG: $125
Rear Iron Sight: $40
PMag: $20
Total: ~ $1000

Extras that are optional:
.22 Ciener Conversion: $125
Extra .22 Magazine: $30

The biggest variance will come in your optics choices. Most uppers have a front sight built into the gas block, which saves you money if you want to use iron sights. Scopes & mounting hardware will vary across the board depending on how much you want to spend. You could also get an upper with a built in or removable carry handle, which takes care of the rear iron sight.

It's all the little accessories that start adding up. New trigger, trigger guard, forend grip, free floating rails, compensators, etc.

You also have to consider the time it takes to accrue all of these parts right now when the demand is through the roof. Most manufacturers are back ordered several months on uppers. I got lucky and found a small store in Missouri that got some CMMG uppers in stock for a good price. LPKs are very hard to find in stock, but there are many on arfcom's EE at a hefty premium. All of the other accessories will vary depending on the popularity. Magpul stuff is in high demand, etc. Stripped lowers were hard to find for a while, but a few local stores seem to have a steady supply of them as of late.

JE3146 05-10-2009 11:42 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gpugliese (Post 377111)
$1500 is high right now, but if you really aren't good with your hands, it may be worth it. The hardest part is assembling the lower parts kit, and there's a thorough walkthrough on arfcom if you want to look into it. You could build an upper from scratch which would be a little more complicated, but they are generally available complete or complete minus a bolt carrier group, which just slides in place.

Here's what I have into my AR build so far:

Stripped Lower: $150
Lower Parts Kit: $75 (retail for $50ish if you can find one in stock, $80-100 on EE.AR15)
Stock: $75
5.56 Upper w/ charging handle: $515
5.56 BCG: $125
Rear Iron Sight: $40
PMag: $20
Total: ~ $1000

Extras that are optional:
.22 Ciener Conversion: $125
Extra .22 Magazine: $30

The biggest variance will come in your optics choices. Most uppers have a front sight built into the gas block, which saves you money if you want to use iron sights. Scopes & mounting hardware will vary across the board depending on how much you want to spend. You could also get an upper with a built in or removable carry handle, which takes care of the rear iron sight.

It's all the little accessories that start adding up. New trigger, trigger guard, forend grip, free floating rails, compensators, etc.

You also have to consider the time it takes to accrue all of these parts right now when the demand is through the roof. Most manufacturers are back ordered several months on uppers. I got lucky and found a small store in Missouri that got some CMMG uppers in stock for a good price. LPKs are very hard to find in stock, but there are many on arfcom's EE at a hefty premium. All of the other accessories will vary depending on the popularity. Magpul stuff is in high demand, etc. Stripped lowers were hard to find for a while, but a few local stores seem to have a steady supply of them as of late.

You have rear iron sight for 40$, then necessitate a PMAG for 20$?

I think your numbers are a bit off. And anyone paying 515$ /w charging handle for an upper without a BCG is essentially paying over 355$ on a barrel. Total ripoff. Granted as you said, everything is a ripoff.

My advice... get a lower now. Pay the 150$ + FFL transfer. Get in line for a kit at a reputable retailer. Wait the 6 months to get the kit. Then assemble with one of the many assembly guides floating on the net. Mine inclusive.

Get yourself an A3 upper on that kit, but stick with iron sights. Learn the weapon and don't go magpul crazy or accessorize the hell out of it straight out of the gate. Spend the money on ammo and learn how to fire it. Accessorize later when you figure out what works and what doesn't. Don't get caught up in the AR15.com bandwagon where you're not cool unless you have a Larue quad rail, ACOG, and Magpul trim.

gpugliese 05-11-2009 12:50 PM

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The $40 iron sight was the cheapest I could find until I can find optics I like. As for the upper pricing, as overpriced as it is, it's really the only thing available right now. Unless you get lucky and catch something in stock within minutes of it being available or you have a back order come in.

Midway, BCM and a few of the other online sites that offer email stock notification all sell out within minutes of something arriving in stock.

Junior 05-11-2009 01:10 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AAlmeter (Post 377036)
Check out AR15.com for info and their equipmen exchange section. I'm finishing up a build of my own, and they've been a great resource.

I'd put $1500 in the ballpark for what Ive seen them going for, but prices are high and fluctuate a lot on all guns lately.

And building your own is not as difficult as one might think if youre mechanically inclined.

:tpd:

I built mine from guides on AR15.com. It is a pretty simple deal. I will give you one tip. When putting in the roll pins use tape around where they go in to keep from messing up the finish on it. It took me about a half hour to put my first on together, and about half that the second time.

Check out JT Distributors for parts and uppers. I have a Doublestar lower as well as a Spikes Lower they are both very good. The last I checked AIM had the Doublestars at around $105ish, but that has been a while but after the election. Also check out Brownells and Midway USA. If you are going to order a bunch of parts get your C&R FFL it will get you discounts at a lot of places, and was only $30 when I got mine.

AAlmeter 05-11-2009 07:21 PM

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To give you an idea of mine...

Stag lower $120

LPK $80

DMPS Complete Upper (BCG, Charging, Chrome 1:9, .223) $600

Pre ban 30rd mags $14ea


I'm swapping my bbl (shown in the pic posted earlier) for a post-ban legal one and should recoup a few dollars once I sell my 16" w/ flash supp.


Just need to swap the new bbl and install a rear sight and I'm good. Like Jordan said, as time goes on and I become more experienced with the rifle as well as hopefully get more hands-on experience with others' rifles, I'll start shopping for some of the optics choices...which can be pricey. Than and I'd like a quad rail fore-end...so I can mount one of these...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ljd_hUxCfI

Junior 05-12-2009 09:33 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AAlmeter (Post 378437)
I'll start shopping for some of the optics choices...which can be pricey. Than and I'd like a quad rail fore-end...so I can mount one of these...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ljd_hUxCfI

As far as optics I have used a Aimpoint, and EoTech, and prefer the EOTech over the aimpoint.

JE3146 05-19-2009 08:25 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
A Credit Card bill was passed by the senate today, which oddly enough contained a clause allowing the concealed carry of firearms in national parks. It's expected to pass the House and be signed off by Obama with no opposition.

:D

Mark C 06-26-2009 09:19 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
No posts in the last month? That ain't right...

I'm looking for a lever action rifle, leaning towards Marlin 336, any opinions?

smokeyandthebandit05 06-27-2009 07:33 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark C (Post 442210)
No posts in the last month? That ain't right...

I'm looking for a lever action rifle, leaning towards Marlin 336, any opinions?



I recently bought one used and love the thing. I havent had a chance to shoot it yet :( but I love the design of the rifle. The Winchester 94's are all side feed and top ejection, the Marlins are side feed and side ejection. The side ejection is much better as there is a lesser chance of the hot casing hitting you. What will you be using this rifle for?


This is what I have
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firear...rfire/336A.asp

Trumpet 06-27-2009 06:25 PM

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After being redirected here (Thanks NC) I'm a little late to the party here. However, I just don't know if I can't post any more gun p**n on "Puff"...I mean c'mon...PUFF?!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...h_IMG_0020.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...h_IMG_0018.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...h_IMG_0061.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...h_IMG_0057.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...h_IMG_0051.jpg

Trumpet 06-27-2009 06:26 PM

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http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...h_IMG_0051.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...h_IMG_0047.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...h_IMG_0039.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...h_IMG_0095.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97..._revolvers.jpg

Trumpet 06-27-2009 06:27 PM

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http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...h_IMG_0087.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...h_IMG_0085.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...h_IMG_0084.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...1/th_Colt9.jpg
[url=http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y97/Trumpet1/?action=view&current=Operator4.jpg]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97..._Operator4.jpg

Trumpet 06-27-2009 06:30 PM

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http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...t1/th_FAL3.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...th_Colt202.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...IMG_0898-1.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...h_IMG_0900.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...h_IMG_0913.jpg

Trumpet 06-27-2009 06:33 PM

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http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97.../th_Avatar.jpg

Mark C 06-27-2009 06:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05 (Post 442412)
I recently bought one used and love the thing. I havent had a chance to shoot it yet :( but I love the design of the rifle. The Winchester 94's are all side feed and top ejection, the Marlins are side feed and side ejection. The side ejection is much better as there is a lesser chance of the hot casing hitting you. What will you be using this rifle for?


This is what I have
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firear...rfire/336A.asp

I'm not a hunter, just looking for a fun target gun. I've got a few .22s already, want something bigger/different.

Trumpet 06-28-2009 02:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark C (Post 443005)
I'm not a hunter, just looking for a fun target gun. I've got a few .22s already, want something bigger/different.

If you're looking for a "target" gun, a lever action ain't it. Sure they're fun, but they're not known for being tack-drivers, and while the ammo isn't hard to find, it's not generally inexpensive (then again, no ammo is inexpensive right now) to shoot. However, leveractions are really cool.

If you're looking for something for longer range casual target shooting, consider looking at a scoped bolt gun in .223 or .308. Better yet, buy a Garand from the CMP and a bunch of ammo. That would satisfy the longer range target shooting and the shorter range plinking needs quite nicely. There's just something about a Garand:2

Where in MD are you?

Trumpet 06-28-2009 02:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostRyder (Post 37594)
I agree with the above. Too bad I lost all my firearms in a boating accident... Only one little .22 plinker left.

On another note, I love the Kimber and h&k p0_rn. I'm looking into getting a Kimber Desert Warrior and h&k USP Compact within the next year.

Does Lumpy know you're using his avatar? ;)


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