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Roland of Gilead 04-22-2009 08:56 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Thanks.

A couple more.

http://m-mason.smugmug.com/photos/51...6_cwwLW-XL.jpg

http://m-mason.smugmug.com/photos/51...0_KGhJx-XL.jpg

http://m-mason.smugmug.com/photos/51...3_LdbjU-XL.jpg


-Mark.

BamBam 04-22-2009 09:11 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Hey Guys.

What is a good price for a Romanian AK47 these days?

I have the opportunity to get one for $550. Thoughts?

Catfish 04-22-2009 09:40 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roland of Gilead (Post 349861)

I wonder if he suffers from a lot of low/left accuracy issues.

replicant_argent 04-22-2009 09:56 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 349958)
I wonder if he suffers from a lot of low/left accuracy issues.

Nice catch. First forefinger joint on the trigger instead of the pad?

Catfish 04-22-2009 10:03 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
That and the hollywood support hand grip w/ modified weaver stance.

But hey.... Who am I to judge? If he's comfortable and accurate, I say, "Rock On!"

BC-Axeman 04-22-2009 10:11 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Strong shoulder locked and weak elbow out. Sort of a hybrid stance. Maybe it's just the camera angle.
Like Catfish said, if he's comfortable and accurate.....
To each his own.

Thrak 04-22-2009 10:16 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I cringe when I see somebody w/ their hand under the bottom of the gun like that

I was at the range one time when a dude had some kind of misfire or malfunction (never found out what it was) and it blew the mag out the bottom of the gun busting his hand up all kinds of nasty ways... ugh.

Catfish 04-22-2009 10:25 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
:r:r:r:r

http://www.imfdb.org/images/c/c3/ID4_Beretta-3.jpg

Catfish 04-22-2009 10:36 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Then again, if you typically shoot a Beretta 92FS, you're used to carrying a tea cup and saucer.



I keed, I keed.



Well..........not really.

Cigarcop 04-22-2009 08:01 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Hey, he hit the can didn't he!!!! :r :r :r

BamBam 04-22-2009 08:04 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BamBam (Post 349900)
Hey Guys.

What is a good price for a Romanian AK47 these days?

I have the opportunity to get one for $550. Thoughts?

Didn't want my question to be gobbled up in the thread.

Anybody???

Roland of Gilead 04-23-2009 08:33 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BamBam (Post 350847)
Didn't want my question to be gobbled up in the thread.

Anybody???


Several years ago, I bought an SAR 3 for $300.

This rifle today would go for $800 or more since it's a 5.56mm and there aren't a lot of 'em out there.

An SAR 1 I'm guessing would go for about $600ish.

-Mark.

BamBam 04-23-2009 08:58 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roland of Gilead (Post 351565)
Several years ago, I bought an SAR 3 for $300.

This rifle today would go for $800 or more since it's a 5.56mm and there aren't a lot of 'em out there.

An SAR 1 I'm guessing would go for about $600ish.

-Mark.

Please exuce this question but....Is "SAR" the proper name for a Romanian AK47?

BC-Axeman 04-23-2009 09:42 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
AK means Auto Kalishnikov (sp?) Full auto.

Junior 04-23-2009 09:54 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I haven’t contributed a picture a while so here is my Christmas present to myself last year. It is a Smith & Wesson M&P .40 S&W Caliber.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...897/Pistol.jpg

My AR and Arnold the Moss 590
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...protection.jpg

My 1873
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...873/1873-2.jpg

Ruger Vaquero in a holster.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...StrongSide.jpg

Vaqueros
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...s/Vaqueros.jpg

Junior 04-23-2009 10:08 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Sorry for the two post back to back, but I had to have my 200th post in the firearm thread.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ior897/SA1.jpg

TheManWithNoName 04-23-2009 01:01 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Junior (Post 351709)

Like that rig! :tu

Junior 04-23-2009 01:09 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I hate to triple post, but I got do the coolest thing at lunch today. I got to shoot a CAR with this.





http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...r897/50cal.jpg

The Barrett rep was there setting up the range, and a Fish and Wildlife officer called me to come out and meet him. When I got there I watched them shoot at something. It wasn’t until I had a pair of binoculars that I saw it was a car. You couldn’t see it with the naked eye. I can tell you this I have shot shotguns that had more recoil than the Barrett did. It was a rush, and an adrenalin rush to say the least.

hikari 04-23-2009 01:24 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 349148)
If I may ask... your location says California.

How is it possible you have the Sig 556, let alone the Magpul mags?

The 556 is a compliant rifle. Meets the terms of CA

There is a prince50 mag release installed which makes it a fix'd mag.
There is alittle screw in there that you can lossen up that lets the button work normaly again which would make it illeage in CA so we would not do that right.. Even though we shoot at a private range.
http://www.coldwarshooters.net/images/prince50.jpg

As for the Pmag. I put a rivet half way down the spine so it only can hold 10rnds. I like the feel of a 30rnd clip only reason for this.

The things we have to do in California ....

BC-Axeman 04-23-2009 01:43 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Did 30 round magazines that were previously legal in CA become illegal somehow? I remembered new ones were. I have had my guns since the early 80s.

hikari 04-23-2009 01:53 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
No they are still legal - PreBan mag's

but you can not put them in a gun thus making it an assault weapon
so you need a preban weapon also.

need both peaces of the puzzle.


:(

white_s2k 04-23-2009 02:11 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Looking for some advice on on an aftermarket stock for my Remington 810 12-gauge shotgun. I bought the pistol grip version for home protection, and love the mobile-ness of it, but would like to add a stock to it in case I want to take it out anywhere. I've been looking at the Knoxx SpecOps which seems to have gotten some good reviews:

http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Spe...k,1157,165.htm

Anyone have any other recommendations? Trying to stay under $100 shipped.

Thanks

Junior 04-23-2009 02:29 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Here is a less expensive version of the stock, but I have learned one thing over the years. You get what you pay for.

Roland of Gilead 04-23-2009 04:11 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BamBam (Post 351609)
Please exuce this question but....Is "SAR" the proper name for a Romanian AK47?

It's a Model of Romainian AK.

This one is mine.

http://m-mason.smugmug.com/photos/99244832_ehanP-L.jpg


-Mark.

BigAl_SC 04-23-2009 04:50 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
What site are you all picking up ammo at? Need both 223 and .40 S&W.

BC-Axeman 04-23-2009 06:33 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAl_SC (Post 352573)
What site are you all picking up ammo at? Need both 223 and .40 S&W.

I like natchezss.com. Good luck with stock.

macms 04-23-2009 06:50 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
This may be helpful.

http://www.ammoengine.com/

replicant_argent 04-23-2009 07:19 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by macms (Post 352703)
This may be helpful.

http://www.ammoengine.com/

Dang, I must have bumped Fred not too long ago, can someone hit him for me for this link?

BigAl_SC 04-24-2009 01:23 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by macms (Post 352703)
This may be helpful.

http://www.ammoengine.com/

Thanks, This led me to the right sites........

lostark374 04-24-2009 01:47 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hikari (Post 352246)
No they are still legal - PreBan mag's

but you can not put them in a gun thus making it an assault weapon
so you need a preban weapon also.

need both peaces of the puzzle.


:(

Not a completely accurate statement. As long as the gun is configured correctly its is perfectly legal to use a preban standard capacity magazine as long as the magazine was purchased before the ban and not altered in any way to not fit in a firearm it is made for.

there are flow charts and tons of info available to us kalifornia gun guys. pm me for info

357 04-24-2009 06:50 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lostark374 (Post 353272)
Not a completely accurate statement. As long as the gun is configured correctly its is perfectly legal to use a preban standard capacity magazine as long as the magazine was purchased before the ban and not altered in any way to not fit in a firearm it is made for.

there are flow charts and tons of info available to us kalifornia gun guys. pm me for info

I'm glad we don't have to deal with ban/pre-ban anymore at the federal level. Although, I'm sure as I type this our current administration is writing an even worse piece of gun banning legislation.

Tombstone 04-24-2009 07:12 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517699,00.html

Time for the gubment to tax nails and ban nail guns. Funny how this happened in Australia.;):rolleyes:

Sauer Grapes 04-24-2009 07:26 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone (Post 353467)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517699,00.html

Time for the gubment to tax nails and ban nail guns. Funny how this happened in Australia.;):rolleyes:

Funny how they exaggerate there like they do here and call it a "high powered" nail gun.

bonjing 04-24-2009 08:37 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by white_s2k (Post 352295)
Looking for some advice on on an aftermarket stock for my Remington 810 12-gauge shotgun. I bought the pistol grip version for home protection, and love the mobile-ness of it, but would like to add a stock to it in case I want to take it out anywhere. I've been looking at the Knoxx SpecOps which seems to have gotten some good reviews:

http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Spe...k,1157,165.htm

Anyone have any other recommendations? Trying to stay under $100 shipped.

Thanks

I like my SpecOps, i have the recoil reducing model on my 590. Seem well made. I haven't done a lot of shooting with it yet, but it's held up so far. I've shot about 500rds of mix 2 3/4" - 3" shells. If you're looking at other options, it will cost you more but i do like the speedfeed style stocks, they can also be found at midway.

TheManWithNoName 04-26-2009 07:10 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Glad to say I took my Florida CWP class today, so now just have to get printed and send it all in when I turn 21 in a few weeks... so still a bit to wait with the 90-day period it can take, but at least I'm on my way!
:ss

elderboy02 04-26-2009 08:41 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheManWithNoName (Post 357215)
Glad to say I took my Florida CWP class today, so now just have to get printed and send it all in when I turn 21 in a few weeks... so still a bit to wait with the 90-day period it can take, but at least I'm on my way!
:ss

Congratulations!

replicant_argent 04-26-2009 08:47 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 357404)
Congratulations!

:tpd:

floydpink 04-26-2009 08:51 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheManWithNoName (Post 357215)
Glad to say I took my Florida CWP class today, so now just have to get printed and send it all in when I turn 21 in a few weeks... so still a bit to wait with the 90-day period it can take, but at least I'm on my way!
:ss

90 days?? Good luck. I am on a gun forum and the average wait is over 120 days with or without electric prints.

Florida Dept of Agriculture is way understaffed and since the flood of over 90,000 applicants after the election, they are buried in a pile of apps.

There is a rumor they lifted the 90 day issue statute, which I am not sure is legal.

Best thing to do is prepare yourself for a long wait and get a good gun, holster, and practice a lot and get familiar with all the laws of conceal carry.

After 90 days, if you call the dept and demand a supervisor and let it be known you are familiar with the statute, you may be able to get it around 110 days.

In any event, congrats on getting the wheels turning to become another responsible Floridian who carries daily.

My Smith 38 Airweight is never left home.

stitch 04-26-2009 09:10 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
And This is why I love Arizona!
Open carry without permit :tu
Carry in vehicle without permit :tu
Concealed carry class, 8 hours, one time
Permit takes less than 60 days
Permit is good for 5 years :tu
Renewal, Just send the state $60. ...No renewal classes

TheManWithNoName 04-26-2009 09:27 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Thanks for the congrats guys, glad to join the club!

Quote:

Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 357425)
90 days?? Good luck. I am on a gun forum and the average wait is over 120 days with or without electric prints.

Best thing to do is prepare yourself for a long wait and get a good gun, holster, and practice a lot and get familiar with all the laws of conceal carry.

After 90 days, if you call the dept and demand a supervisor and let it be known you are familiar with the statute, you may be able to get it around 110 days.

Good info there, I'll hope for the best. All that sounds like good advice, and pretty much what I'll be doing. The instructor didn't seem to know about the backlog, but I figure his job was to instruct, not to keep up on the current state of the application process. Anyway thanks for the heads-up. :tu

floydpink 04-27-2009 07:24 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Also, I'd call after about 60 days to make sure everything is ok and the prints are legible. They can reject them and make you wait longer.

If you are looking to monitor the time between mailing and recieving, check your bank statements and figure about 75 days from the time they cashed your check to the time it will be in your wallet.

elderboy02 04-27-2009 07:31 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
My brother and his friend just turned 21 and they turned in their CCW permits about 2 weeks ago. They said the wait would be 30 days. I am glad mine only took 3 days 2 years ago :D

floydpink 04-27-2009 07:42 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stitch (Post 357464)
And This is why I love Arizona!
Open carry without permit :tu
Not yet.
Carry in vehicle without permit :tu
ok in Florida, as long as it's "securely encased" which is loosely interpreted.
Concealed carry class, 8 hours, one time
One time, 2 hours here in Florida. Probably SHOULD be 8 hours
Permit takes less than 60 days
Got us by a mile there
Permit is good for 5 years :tu
Finally! score one for Fla. 7 years here
Renewal, Just send the state $60. ...No renewal classes

Tie!


Well Stitch, Florida isn't too bad. Aside from open carry, we're about even, but Arizona wins for nicer landscape

Catfish 04-27-2009 08:04 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stitch (Post 357464)
And This is why I love Arizona!
Open carry without permit :tu

I'm moving to Arizona. For that and for Gunsite Academy.

Mark C 04-30-2009 05:14 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Ya know, this thread has become a real pain to wade through, is there any good reason we don't have a separate firearms forum? Sure seems like there's plenty of interest.

Catfish 04-30-2009 05:41 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Sounds like good suggestion box fodder.

68TriShield 04-30-2009 06:52 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark C (Post 363048)
Ya know, this thread has become a real pain to wade through, is there any good reason we don't have a separate firearms forum? Sure seems like there's plenty of interest.

Mark I would suggest joining a gun forum then.There are probably a thousand of them out there and honestly the 11 has enough to do already.
Not to mention the fact,we are a Cigar/Pipe forum not a general purpose forum :)

BC-Axeman 04-30-2009 06:58 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark C (Post 363048)
Ya know, this thread has become a real pain to wade through, is there any good reason we don't have a separate firearms forum? Sure seems like there's plenty of interest.

I think of this more as a firearms discussion between cigar/pipe smokers.:2

smokeyandthebandit05 04-30-2009 08:14 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Not to be a pain in the butt but the CB radio forum I belong to has a hunting/fishing sub forum as well as a guns and ammo area that are always busy

Tombstone 04-30-2009 08:28 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman (Post 363134)
I think of this more as a firearms discussion between cigar/pipe smokers.:2

:tpd:


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