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stearns 08-27-2020 09:06 AM

Re: Sous vide
 
Just pulled out some corned beef from day-after-saint-patty's-sale and threw it in the bath, 180* for 10 hours. I'll be eating good tonight and through the weekend with some corned beef hash :dr

CigarNut 08-27-2020 12:38 PM

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Ben, was this brisket that you corned, or was it pre-packaged, seasoned corned beef that you were cooking?

stearns 08-27-2020 12:53 PM

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Prepackaged, got it from Whole Foods the day after St. Patty's and vac sealed it with the spice pack then threw it in the freezer for a later date

mosesbotbol 08-28-2020 07:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stearns (Post 2204402)
Prepackaged, got it from Whole Foods the day after St. Patty's and vac sealed it with the spice pack then threw it in the freezer for a later date

I like to soak the corned beef over night in water to get rid of the extra salt.

stearns 08-28-2020 07:19 AM

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This one turned out perfect, 10 hours at 180 followed by 10 minutes on a wire rack in the oven at 450* and another 10 minutes resting under foil

https://i.postimg.cc/PrzFHH0x/IMG-20200827-195627.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 2204421)
I like to soak the corned beef over night in water to get rid of the extra salt.

Maybe I'll give that a try next time, I don't know if I just like salt or if my mind equates salty with the taste of corned beef but I think this turned out well seasoned (or maybe as expected) but I'm always down to try out new approaches

jonumberone 09-19-2020 09:28 AM

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Anyone looking at the new Anova precision oven?
I was all set to pull the trigger and pre-order one when I got my balls twisted over the $50 they want to ship it.
Might give them a call and see if there's a cheaper shipping option.
If not, I'm probably going to wait and see if there's some sort of Black Friday promotion; Even if it's only free shipping.

jonumberone 09-30-2020 05:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone (Post 2205406)
Anyone looking at the new Anova precision oven?
I was all set to pull the trigger and pre-order one when I got my balls twisted over the $50 they want to ship it.
Might give them a call and see if there's a cheaper shipping option.
If not, I'm probably going to wait and see if there's some sort of Black Friday promotion; Even if it's only free shipping.

Placed my pre-order a few days ago.
Paid the $50 shipping.
I have no will power..... :sl

icehog3 09-30-2020 09:33 AM

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Hey, you held out almost 11 days, Dom! :D

T.G 09-30-2020 02:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2205893)
Hey, you held out almost 11 days, Dom! :D

Impressive considering Anova has been promising and teasing this oven for something like 4 or 5 years now. Ever since they were acquired by the vacuum cleaner company

icehog3 09-30-2020 06:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 2205913)
Impressive considering Anova has been promising and teasing this oven for something like 4 or 5 years now. Ever since they were acquired by the vacuum cleaner company

Do you know if they make furnaces, Adam?

jonumberone 10-21-2020 12:33 PM

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Oven finally arrived yesterday.
This thing is way bigger than I was expecting.
I would say you could do a 15lb turkey in it pretty easily. (Something I will be trying in the next month or so)

Started off pretty small with some stuffed chicken breasts.
Cooked with the oven's Sous Vide mode at 140º for an hour and a half.
Then finished for 15 min in the oven at 450º

https://i.postimg.cc/CL3rNR68/IMG_20...205021_510.jpg

Trying to give a size reference, this is a 48oz Tomahawk ribeye in the oven.

https://i.postimg.cc/cJmD0X17/20201020_144206.jpg

Yesterday's chicken breasts

https://i.postimg.cc/FKmPM2vs/20201020_181656.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/D0W5Qhr5/20201020_181812.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/rmZQtsrK/20201020_182020.jpg

I'll be cooking that Tomahawk in the oven tonight.
Curious to see if there's any noticeable difference between the oven and regular Sous Vide.

BigAsh 10-21-2020 12:55 PM

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Chicken "looks" good....your thoughts on performance, taste, ease of use, comparison to plain old sous vide, the Treaty of Versailles, etc...

icehog3 10-21-2020 06:30 PM

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Equally interested in the chicken's flavor and the Treaty of Versailles. :D

T.G 10-22-2020 07:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone (Post 2206912)

Started off pretty small with some stuffed chicken breasts.
Cooked with the oven's Sous Vide mode at 140º for an hour and a half.
Then finished for 15 min in the oven at 450º


What is the sous vide mode?

GreekGodX 10-22-2020 08:49 AM

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Dom is the oven supposed to essential replace the sous vide process? In other words, sell me on buying one :)

jonumberone 10-22-2020 09:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAsh (Post 2206914)
Chicken "looks" good....your thoughts on performance, taste, ease of use, comparison to plain old sous vide, the Treaty of Versailles, etc...

Still getting a feel for it. Using the different modes, how well the oven transitions from different stages, etc..
So far happy with the results.

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 2206936)
What is the sous vide mode?

Essentially, the ability to cook sous vide without the bag.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 2206939)
Dom is the oven supposed to essential replace the sous vide process? In other words, sell me on buying one :)

I have some friends coming this weekend. Perhaps a taste test is in order?
1 steak prepared traditional sous vide, 1 steak cooked in the oven bagged, and 1 steak in the oven.
The guys coming are used to sharing steaks, so it won't be an issue. :D

Did that 48oz Tomahawk ribeye yesterday.
This time I used the Sous vide Express mode.
This mode allows you to use a temperature probe to cook sous vide at a higher temps to reduce cook times.
I set the oven for 150°, and the probe to 130°
When the probe hit 130°, the oven lowered itself to 125° to stop cooking and just hold the meat at temp.
I took the steak out before the oven cooled, mostly because I was hungry, but also because while the oven was cooling the steak carried over to 133°.
Next time I'll factor this in; Set the oven to 145°, the probe to 127°, and hopefully achieve a doneness closer to 130°.
It took about an hour and fifteen minuets to cook right out of the fridge.
I typically let them sit out a bit then go in the water bath for 2 - 2.5 hrs for steaks this size.

https://i.postimg.cc/Fs7h2NJ9/20201021_175621.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/fTpMspxY/20201021_180613.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/05t8WbjW/IMG_20...224419_457.jpg

jonumberone 10-22-2020 09:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2206923)
Equally interested in the chicken's flavor and the Treaty of Versailles. :D

All I know about is the Cuban sandwiches from Versailles in Miami.
And they don't have chicken on them. :D

icehog3 10-22-2020 09:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone (Post 2206945)
All I know about is the Cuban sandwiches from Versailles in Miami.
And they don't have chicken on them. :D

https://i.imgur.com/vkDGzto.gif

massphatness 10-22-2020 01:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone (Post 2206942)
S
I have some friends coming this weekend.

Are you including Roger in this statement?

icehog3 10-22-2020 01:47 PM

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Ouch. :r

BigAsh 10-23-2020 09:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by massphatness (Post 2206956)
Are you including Roger in this statement?

....the highly anticipated, delayed and long-winded reply finally came thru....His wife wouldn't let him come...

T.G 10-23-2020 09:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone (Post 2206942)
Essentially, the ability to cook sous vide without the bag.

:tf

"Sous vide, which means “under vacuum” in French, refers to the process of vacuum-sealing food in a bag, then cooking it to a very precise temperature in a water bath. This technique produces results that are impossible to achieve through any other cooking method."
-- https://anovaculinary.com/what-is-sous-vide/

Well Anova, which set of facts is it this time?

lol.


Thanks Dom. Curious to hear how it works out as I think this is the first countertop steam oven that I've heard of.

stearns 11-10-2020 07:34 AM

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A couple weeks ago I got some pre-marinated black garlic chicken wings from the store, didn't get around to grilling them so I vac sealed and threw in the freezer. Yesterday I took them out, let them (mostly) thaw and put them in a bath at 160* for 2 hours. After they were done I put them right on a grill pan on med-high (it was snowing out or I would have used the actual grill) to get a little crisp then served.

The recipe I used called for either 165* for 1 hour or 160* for two hours depending on if you want "fall off the bone" or not. I wouldn't call what I ended up with as falling off the bone, but it was cooked perfect and the chicken itself was delicious. The only change I'm going to make next time is do a light toss in some sauce after they're done, they only kept a little of the marinade flavor and needed something to take it from piece of chicken to "wing" but I will definitely be trying again. This would be an easy one for a big party, pre-cook a ton and grill whatever you want, I'm hoping you could just sauce at the end if you want a variety but I'll report back :tu

https://i.postimg.cc/NfnZ1XsC/PXL-20...-040019094.jpg

jledou 11-10-2020 07:49 AM

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Last time we smoked wings, we threw them in the air fryer to finish them up and give them a little crisp.
I haven't done wings with Sous Vide but I will now after seeing these Ben!

BigAsh 11-10-2020 07:50 AM

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Great Idea!....I love wings!!

stearns 11-10-2020 07:54 AM

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I'd love to deep fry them at the end, but without a dedicated deep fry setup it's not worth the hassle

T.G 11-10-2020 08:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAsh (Post 2207850)
Great Idea!....I love wings!!

I thought you had a guy for that?

BigAsh 11-10-2020 08:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 2207854)
I thought you had a guy for that?

I do!....Right now my guy makes wings in a 5 ton brick oven! (....if I could only get a pizza....) :D

Chainsaw13 02-25-2021 08:52 PM

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Just started curing six duck legs to make into confit, cooking with the sous vide. Will cure for two days. Going to use the serious eats cooking method and go for 36 hours @ 155F. SE doesn’t say to add extra fat, that the natural fat rendered would be enough. However I’m going to add a couple sticks of unsalted butter, and plan to save/use after. :dr

stearns 02-26-2021 05:20 AM

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Yes please. Can't wait to hear how these turn out, I actually have some duck legs in the freezer that I've been dying to use. Last time I cooked them confit in the oven with a weight on them, I bet the sous vide is even easier and more efficient. Save me some of that duck fat for breakfast potatoes :dr

Chainsaw13 03-01-2021 04:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stearns (Post 2214217)
Yes please. Can't wait to hear how these turn out, I actually have some duck legs in the freezer that I've been dying to use. Last time I cooked them confit in the oven with a weight on them, I bet the sous vide is even easier and more efficient. Save me some of that duck fat for breakfast potatoes :dr

Definitely worth doing, Ben. I just finished eating one of the legs I confitted. Crisped in a pan. Tender, unctuous, delicious. Might use a couple tomorrow for tacos, making chicharrones out of the skin.

Cured 3lbs legs (6 legs) for two days with 1.5% salt, 2 teaspoons black pepper, 1 tablespoon dried thyme, 2 bay leaves. Rinsed then vac sealed with a stick of butter for three legs. Sous vide @ 155 for 27 hours. Original recipe says 36, but I pulled them early.

Chainsaw13 03-13-2021 08:25 AM

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Just dropped a 4-5lb bone in, skin on, pork loin into the sous vide. Beautiful fat cap. It’s from an American Guinea Hog friends of mine raised. Plan is 8 hours at 155, season and into my hot pellet grill to finish with smoke. I’m only going that long since it’s currently frozen.

stearns 12-22-2021 08:16 AM

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Sure am glad I left some notes in this thread when I was working out my sous vide pork belly, making some for christmas morning and was worrying about what cooking time/temp to use then searched this thread and found my post below, guess I'm doing 170* 10 hours. Ive done smokey belly and asian style cherry, this time I'm leaning towards apple of some sort, maybe cook up the belly then at the end throw some apple slices on and caramelize them up. I'll report back :tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by stearns (Post 2128058)
I think I preferred the higher temp/lower time from my last attempt more (170* 10 hrs), both were great but the texture of the higher temp was more "fall apart" than this one, which is what I expected just thought that I would like the lower temp version more. Guess I need more experimenting :dr


AdamJoshua 12-30-2021 05:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bigash (Post 2206986)
....the highly anticipated, delayed and long-winded reply finally came thru....his wife wouldn't let him come...

phrasing!

Would also answer so many other questions.

icehog3 12-31-2021 08:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 2227438)
phrasing!

Would also answer so many other questions.

Finally! I've been waiting for this quip for 14 months!-(P

stearns 01-10-2022 08:48 AM

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Following up about my Christmas morning brunch while it's still somewhat fresh in my mind, and because I always look back at my posts in this thread when I'm trying to remake something

I started by making some brown butter, then took it off the heat and mixed in some honey. That mix went into the bag with a big chunk of pork belly (3-4lb I think) and cooked at 170* for 10 hours (or 11-12 because of timing with other Christmas morning stuff). I took it out and saved the >4C of pork bag juice. I then took that juice and added a little brown sugar and cooked it down for a glaze, it was taking too long so I ended up dumping some of it so it would get glazy faster. Once that was thick I broiled the pork belly on a wire rack, took it out and cut into sections then put the glaze on and hit it with the kitchen torch. Separately I caramelized some pears with butter and brown sugar and served the pork belly on top of the pears

Final takeaways: The pork was cooked fine, but lacking excitement. I think it needed more of the honey to really compliment the pears and work as a breakfast dish. One way to do this is add more honey brown butter to the bag when it cooked (It felt a little light), another way to improve would be to coat each piece in the glaze rather than just spoon a little on top, it probably needs both of these next time. I think if every bite of pork had more honey and butter taste it would have been better, since the pears weren't overly sweet and couldn't carry the dish on their own

https://i.postimg.cc/XYpTdKML/PXL-20...-162755168.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/FsPMYW61/PXL-20...-181241503.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/bwW4TGph/PXL-20...-190644299.jpg

357 01-10-2022 12:09 PM

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Ben, that looks amazing. I too find my own tips/tricks in the "What's in your smoker" thread.

So as a fan of this thread who also lacks any sous vide equipment, I didn't see any follow up as to Dom's Anova "bagless" sous vide oven, and how it stacked up versus the traditional method.


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