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Sure, my friends like wine, but nothing scholarly about them drinking a wine. No pad of paper for notes. ;s I sometimes wonder why I bother bringing over 30+ year old clarets when they are all gushing over some 15% alcohol Zin I'd assume pour down the sink. Last night, we had a 1996 Chateau de Beaucastel CdP. A muscular CdP with plenty of tannin that took a couple of hours to be really smooth and charming. Cork looked great. Had a little browning on the rim edge of glass, but not oxidized at all. I have about 4-5 more of this vintage and look forward to them... Been on a Rhone kick recently. The other night was 1979 Guigal Cote Rotie Brune et Blonde that was rocking. Guigal was originally imported to the US, down the street from my house, so older vintages are floating around regularly. Cote Rotie is one of my favorite wine regions. |
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I've done quite a few courses in wines and spirits (WSET, CSW, CSS) and certified through US Sommelier Association. They can be hard if one is not in the industry and tasting daily. (Especially WSET)
For folks who are "eager amateurs" of French wine, the best course I have done is through the a french Wine Society. They run weekly lectures and tastings for 13 weeks (quite in depth) with a multiple choice exam at the end (no tasting exam) - they also do immersion courses in France. I'm currently trying for their Bourgogne Master level. It's a lot of fun, and I hope to head to Burgundy next summer just prior to that exam. Anyone who is a fan of French wines needs to check this out: https://www.frenchwinesociety.org HIGHLY RECOMMENDED! |
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Those French Wine Society immersion trips look great!
I have an Advanced Sommelier certificate from the Court of Master Sommeliers and I have been in the industry for over 25 years but I am still learning something new every day. |
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The only one wine category I feel "confident" on is Port Wine. I have had most of the great 20th century vintages, and about 30-40% of my collection is Port going back to the 19th century. This knowledge did not come cheap either. If I guessed, it would be over 100K in port personally consumed easily... I assume you'd have to spend 3-4x to know Bordeaux or Burgundy to similar detail? |
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Port is one of my weakest categories in terms of knowledge. You obviously have far more experience in Port than I. The oldest Port I've had was an 1890 Dow that was barely clinging to life. My favorite Port experience was staging a 1963 horizontal tasting of over two dozen wines with Michael Broadbent. Drinking great wine is never cheap. I find it more economical to taste with like-minded individuals and share the expense. |
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A couple of '63 Dow tregnum's would be most interesting I have of this vintage. http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps8dc9567f.jpg |
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Wow those big bottles are awesome!
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I also have a 3000 ML bottle of 1977 Taylor in wood. That one is in the cellar, but you may've seen one before. I probably have about 2-3 cases of 1.5's, but those are pretty common... |
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Moses, do you buy all your bottled online? Or do you have a phenomenal distributor in Boston?
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I buy a lot of stuff at auction and have been doing so well over a decade. Always big gamble at auction and you should know what you are doing. I'd suggest a narrow focus and research on any Lot you may be interested in. I do both live an online auctions. Live auctions can yield the best results, but take the most amount of time and quick thinking. There could be a wine I wasn't initially interested in, but when it is up and no one bids on it, I will bottom feed and throw a low ball bid. Some stuff I buy is from a distributor/importer who also buys out estates I am friends with. There's a couple of distributors that let me buy at their wholesale price which helps. Other bottles are just from people I meet who have cellars they are clearing out. |
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Blandy's 5 year Special Dry Madiera
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Can you get Broadbent Madeira in your region? They make 5 year, but their 10 year is IMO the best Madeira for the money. |
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It was very good Moses this is my first Madiera with age, I've had Broadbent rainwater which I enjoyed a lot, and Sandeman Fine Rich which wasn't to my taste, reminded me of Sherry. So I have only those to compare it to but I really like it it's a nice change of pace to Port which is pretty much all I've been drinking lately. So yes I can get Broadbent but they do not stock 10 year but if they have it chances are they can order it. What kind should I ask for special dry? I'd like to try Bual also?
As always thanks for any and all input wise one! |
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If you can get a 10 year and if you're feeling sporty the Terrantez, you'll be very satisfied for the purchase. If you can get the 10 for under $40, you are doing well. I like the Broadbent 10 better for the same money as RWC Historic Series Madeiras. |
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Broadbent 10 seems to come in Sercial and Malmsey, I'm assuming your referring to Sercial?
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If anyone is near NJ, I recommend going to the Wine Library. You can also order from their website. Great selection and their prices are even better. https://winelibrary.com
I went there this past weekend and stocked up on some different wines. Amazing customer service as well. |
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Efharisto Christos, I have family in Hoboken and Astoria Queens(I'm also Greek) I might have to make a pit stop there next time I head up there!
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My local B&M said Broadbent also has Bual and Verdelho. I really like Verdelho (semi-dry), but did not give me a price yet. I'll be happy with Malmsey at that price either way... |
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For those who like CdP (Chateauneuf du Pape), try "la Fiole du Pape". It is a non-vintage wine made of different vintages and bottled. It can be aged, but is ready to drink when bottled. Very good CdP you don't have to worry about a vintage or sitting on the bottle.
Cool looking bottle to boot. Recommended for under $30 http://asset1.marksandspencer.com/is...DP_PROD_IMAGE$ |
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No activity on here since the first week of November!?!?!?
Went to the best PA Liquor store today any picked these up!! http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/...psvnpaqdxt.jpg |
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How's the Fuerheerd? That's a rare brand! I have never had their tawny before; only one or two vintages. Does it say when it was bottled?
I know the Broadbent is good; I buy that one all the time. |
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Is it?? I see it all the time and usually pass by it, I went specifically for that Madeira off your recommendation, and was planning to get a cheap Tawny (sandemans) and they were out all they had was TF 10 and for $10 less I reached for Fuerheerd. I only had a small glass to try it and I t is indeed VERY good and for $20 a bottle you really can't beat it!! I'll look to see where it was bottled when I get home this evening. As for the Madeira I'm saving it for a rainy day!
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It was bottled in 2015
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Don't knock me for the Jam Jar, it's fun to drink. Enjoyed the Fuerheerd so much that I got another 10 year tawny and decided to try their Reserve Ruby. Moses, ever hear of Barão De Vilar? It was on sale for $39.99 so I figured I couldn't go wrong regardless!!
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So - potato gnocchi with provolone and mushrooms. (And a touch of Manitoba's favorite vegetable - BACON).
My Italian friends might disown me, but mushrooms = Borgogne. http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/...stkhfk1ms.jpeg http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/...sk3gf5wrk.jpeg Peasant wine for peasant food! Fantastic! |
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A rich white wine for a big meal.
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A 2007 Patagonian Malbec with our homemade burgers. Chef Earl's BBQ sauce really picked it up. (Available at St Pauls Farmers' market.)
http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/...s5ocdqeys.jpeg I usually prefer Cahors Malbecs, which are more tannic and structured. The A Lisa is pretty good with a bit of age on it. |
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^^ Some fun ones there. ^^
The Setubal 20 is what caught my eye the most. JM Fonseca is the probably the best producer as well. |
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Guess it's time to post something, Gabe215 motivated me. A couple of nights ago (Saturday) we did two 1977 Vintage Ports; '77 Taylor and '77 Fonseca. 1977 is a bit a odds. Widely heralded as great vintage, but in reality is just an average vintage IMO.
Perhaps a discussion on the vintage should be another thread, but '77 is hardly '70 or '66. I rated the Taylor at 93 points and funny enough that I rated 93 points 6 years ago! A friend keeps notes on what we drank and looked up our prior review. The Fonseca I think I gave 91 points. http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...pswx6umjvo.jpg |
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Last Post was in June?? I guess nobody drinks wine any more?
Last Night... http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/...psbzgjkuwr.jpg |
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Love me some good port, Gabe.
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Had my first Amarone style wine last night and loved it, going to have to try some more now!!
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Had a wonder 1948 Fonseca a week ago; absolutely fantastic. The weekend was full of port including 1963 Fonseca, 1963 Dow, 1977 Fonseca, 1977 Dow, 1977 Warre, 1980 Graham, and 1980 Dow.
Also had a really fancy Marsala that tasted like Madeira, but after a few days opened took a life of its own. I needed to finish it before I left the country for work. |
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http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/...pslzj4wug6.jpg Being the country of my birth, I have an affinity for South African wines. Alto Shiraz is a spectacular example of an old world style Syrah (I.e. Not Aussie fruit bomb crud). It's been cellared a while, but has aged magnificently into a fine leathery, sweaty, still tannic red. paired up with JBs homemade ricotta gnocchi with a sage mushroom cognac sauce. Totally sublime...... |
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Hey, I found a hidden wine thread!!
I see the recent talk has turned to port but I want to share a couple pics of my wine "cellar". As you can see my wife and I enjoy wine way too much. Ports are on the bottom shelf, third rack from the left. Wines that still need a few more years of ageincluding ports, are in the closet to the left of the cooler Also in that closet are my coolerdors and other cigar related crap https://c6.staticflickr.com/1/555/31...523d487b_z.jpg https://c4.staticflickr.com/1/381/31...df59b33d_z.jpg |
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Nice collection!
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Wow! :dr
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Offley LBV on sale for $13 took the last two bottles!!
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That's a good buy at $13. Keep you eyes out for any 2011 LBV's as that is regards as one of the best vintages in long long time.
If you make it to Boston, I have some '70 & '85 Offley vintage we can drink! |
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I was pleasantly surprised, my first offering from Offley and thought it was fantastic!! I'll keep my eyes out for some 2011's. I really do hope to one day share a drink and smoke with you Moses, always look forward to your comments and input!
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Since you are seeking out port, for tawny or colheita:
Niepoort Kopke St. Leonardo Ferreira Quevedo If you can find anything from these brands, they are all great at every price point. |
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Moses, does Colheita have to be drank immediately after opening (3 days or less)? or is it like most other Ports and can be enjoyed months afterward? Not that opened Ports last a week in my house, just curious, thanks!
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